never thought this would be a serious question....

[Zensation]

so unfortunately for myselfand nissan (I guess) I am now considering trading my nismo in on a 2012 5.0 mustang. This guy from my area is interested in doing a straight up trade. My nismo has hea high mileage at now 78k but ive aways taken excellent care of it and its super clean and still screams. but with the new 2015 nismo let down and all and quickly plummeting value of my z I am actually considering trading for the monster 5.0. He has a boss 302intake manifold, long tube headers and flowmasters exhaust leather interior and nice sound system in the gt. I cant seem to get past the fact that its a mustang though. however it sounds sexxxxyyyy when it revs man. what do u guys think? has nissan pissed you off with their cheap csc issues and just litte things as much as they have me?

[Grindkiezer]

Originally Posted by Zensation

so unfortunately for myselfand nissan (I guess) I am now considering trading my nismo in on a 2012 5.0 mustang. This guy from my area is interested in doing a straight up trade. My nismo has hea high mileage at now 78k but ive aways taken excellent care of it and its super clean and still screams. but with the new 2015 nismo let down and all and quickly plummeting value of my z I am actually considering trading for the monster 5.0. He has a boss 302intake manifold, long tube headers and flowmasters exhaust leather interior and nice sound system in the gt. I cant seem to get past the fact that its a mustang though. however it sounds sexxxxyyyy when it revs man. what do u guys think? has nissan pissed you off with their cheap csc issues and just litte things as much as they have me?

Have you test driven it? That's the best way to tell if you really want it or can see yourself dailying it

[Z_ealot]

bye

[Elan]

5.0 is a nice car but the 370, especially the Nismo, is a unique car. I get so excited seeing another 370 on the road. I literally see a Mustang at ever intersection. Sure most aren't beastly 5.0s but to the general public, they are all the same.

[Zensation]

Originally Posted by Elan

5.0 is a nice car but the 370, especially the Nismo, is a unique car. I get so excited seeing another 370 on the road. I literally see a Mustang at ever intersection. Sure most aren't beastly 5.0s but to the general public, they are all the same.

See thats what ive always thought and still find myself thinking most of the time. But the fact that a mustang is certainly not rare i think a nicely modded and good ooking mustang that gets my attention is rare. And its true that every once in a blue moon one pulls into a car show behind the countless other ones that says hey im a mustang but a damn fine one at that. I used to find mysef judging all the american makes and scoffing but as i get older and more appreciative of all cars I think ya know at least ford has the decency to provide an enthusiast car with frequent refreshers with a reasonable after market. Plus market value of that car is about 5k more than my car so thinking logically its a no brainer...

And then theres the problem of rapidly growing ricer crowd getting into the 370 platform as it slowly creeps into the lower $20k dollar range and as douchebags slowly total their 350's. If you dont believe me go look at the 370z facebook page...or don't i had to leave it. Ugh ive had 3 z's and i hate leaving but 2 seats is no longer practical even for a weekend cruise as i may want to take my wife and baby along once in a while. and while it may be tight in a stang its certainly doable.

I did test drive the mustang and the power was fantastic. id certainly be lowering 1.5" and doing the full roush suspension package.

[Jayhovah]

Originally Posted by Zensation

Plus market value of that car is about 5k more than my car so thinking logically its a no brainer....

/Thread. If you truly believe in that statement then do the deal, if you don't like the Mustang sell it and buy another Z.

[djc119]

Originally Posted by Elan

5.0 is a nice car but the 370, especially the Nismo, is a unique car. I get so excited seeing another 370 on the road. I literally see a Mustang at ever intersection. Sure most aren't beastly 5.0s but to the general public, they are all the same.

^^^This^^^

[Scribe]

Originally Posted by Zensation

has nissan pissed you off with their cheap csc issues and just litte things as much as they have me?

Yep. I've had lots of luck with dealerships/service, but Nissan themselves have lost me as a customer due to their cutting corners and putting the burden and cost of that land squarely on the people that should be their brand ambassadors for Nissan.

Originally Posted by JARblue

My clutch pedal is on the floor right now, and I can't go to work (it was working on Fri). Thankfully, my Z1 CSC delete kit is supposed to arrive at my office tomorrow.

To answer your question. Nissan has pissed me off a little with how they respond to warranty claims on prone-to-fail OEM parts like the ESCL and CSC. But obviously not as much as you. I would never trade my Z for a Mustang

Sorry to hear that. I had the same issue (as you probably remember from my posts last week). I'm working with the Nissan Exectuve Consumer Affairs team right now to see if there is something they could do. It's been a fight just to get to that level however, as the regional consumer affairs and their supervisor basically botched my case and didn't look into what they were oringally supposed to, which was reimbursement for the steering wheel lock.

Originally Posted by JARblue

I'd like to clarify something here. When you refer to getting pissed at Nissan, I assume that you are talking about corporate. It's not fair to link a horrible dealer experience to the car manufacturer unless corporate is involved in your experience.

The dealers are their own entities, and customer service can vary to great extremes regardless of the car manufacturer. One of the Nissan dealers in town did service on my Z without my permission and then tried to charge me for it. I'm not blaming Nissan for that; it was the idiot service manager at that particular dealer not listening to his customer. Having a trustworthy dealer or not would impact my decision to purchase that particular car make, but not in the case of the Z, as I made the decision to do my own work on the car.

Bingo. As I mentioned above and in other posts, Nissan dealerships aren't owned by Nissan. Nissan should be informed if you are having issues with their dealerships, but they are not one and the same. Nissan is the one that has let down a lot of us. A bad dealership experience still sucks, but you can usually find another service department to take care of you.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Scribe

Sorry to hear that. I had the same issue (as you probably remember from my posts last week). I'm working with the Nissan Exectuve Consumer Affairs team right now to see if there is something they could do. It's been a fight just to get to that level however, as the regional consumer affairs and their supervisor basically botched my case and didn't look into what they were oringally supposed to, which was reimbursement for the steering wheel lock.

Yup. I recently posted up some info I got from the local dealer I actually trust. It's in my Preventative Clutch Maintenance thread if want to search for it. Basically they treat the CSC as "good will" coverage. If you spend a bunch of money at the dealer and have the dealer do all your routine maintenance, then corporate is much more likely to approve the dealer to cover it under your warranty. I bought the car from another dealership (I let them do 2 free oil changes), and my current dealer has only ever done a headliner warranty claim for me. I decided to do the repair work myself rather than waste any more time trying to argue with them to cover it. If you've got any of that stuff going for you, then you might have a chance. If not, then I wish you luck.

As for ESCL $$$ you should get every dime (incl tow, rental, parts, labor, etc) back without question. It shouldn't take them any time to approve as long as your VIN is under the recall notice. I would definitely be all over them about this.

[Cell]

Modified CSC with stage 3 clutch/fly wheel kit + turbo fixed nissans poor CSC.

I like the new mustang looks but would not take the hit in cost for it though. Not worth it in my book.

I would rather drive it till the motor blows and drop an LS motor in the Z but the Z is a keeper for me.

[welterbf123]

Mustangs and Camaros are nice, but everyone has one. I can count on one hand the number of 370z's I've seen running around..

[MasterD]

Originally Posted by Elan

5.0 is a nice car but the 370, especially the Nismo, is a unique car. I get so excited seeing another 370 on the road. I literally see a Mustang at ever intersection. Sure most aren't beastly 5.0s but to the general public, they are all the same.

This.

[JARblue]

Originally Posted by Zensation

has nissan pissed you off with their cheap csc issues and just litte things as much as they have me?

My clutch pedal is on the floor right now, and I can't go to work (it was working on Fri). Thankfully, my Z1 CSC delete kit is supposed to arrive at my office tomorrow.

To answer your question. Nissan has pissed me off a little with how they respond to warranty claims on prone-to-fail OEM parts like the ESCL and CSC. But obviously not as much as you. I would never trade my Z for a Mustang

[Haboob]

Originally Posted by JARblue

My clutch pedal is on the floor right now, and I can't go to work (it was working on Fri). Thankfully, my Z1 CSC delete kit is supposed to arrive at my office tomorrow.

To answer your question. Nissan has pissed me off a little with how they respond to warranty claims on prone-to-fail OEM parts like the ESCL and CSC. But obviously not as much as you. I would never trade my Z for a Mustang

I'm already out of warranty. Hopefully this doesn't happen to me. Or I get rid of it before hand.

[enkei2k]

Originally Posted by Haboob

I'm already out of warranty. Hopefully this doesn't happen to me. Or I get rid of it before hand.

how are you out of warranty?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it 3/36k? or did you mod it?