A New version of the Nismo ?

Rusty

Looking at what Nissan did with the '15 Nismo. Tells me that it will be another 2 years or so before they release an all new Z. Why would they spend the money on a few up-date peices if they wasn't planning on keeping it the same for awhile longer. It will take about 2 years to get their money back on the design change on the new stuff. Also, I think they are testing the waters too with the design changes.

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Nargrakhan

When all is said and done, Nissan is still a corporation that's out to make profit. If this avenue becomes a massive success to pull in cash, then they'll beat that cow until it's a fine red mist. However I don't think the new look will be all that successful. The 370Z was already a beautiful car, and I'm sure we can all agree it's not just the car's appearance that's causing dismal sales. It might boost sales up because of the renewed interest and there being an automatic NISMO, but I'm thinking the 370Z market is already oversaturated. Most everyone who wants one, already does. I'm willing to guess that most of the 2015 NISMO buyers will be people who trade in an older Z for it.

It also doesn't help that the casual driver doesn't know the difference between the 350 and 370... thus in their mind, this car has been around for 12 years.

The new Mustang, Stingray and FR-S are all my coworkers like to talk about right now. They respect the Z, but are still waiting for the next generation before getting serious about it. It doesn't matter if she's gonna be a 400+ HP to challenge the American muscle cars or goes below the 300 HP range to battle it out with the Toyobaru twins... they just wanna see a totally new Z. Everyone knows the 2015 NISMO is just a new shell. Cheaper to just bodykit an old Z than buy a new one for just the shell.

In any case, as an earlier poster pointed out, the team that designed the 2015 NISMO look, is highly unlikely to be the same team designing the next generation Z. This is just a diversion to give Nissan another year to finish whatever they need to finish.

ElwoodBlues

I expect the current model to be around for a couple of more model years... maybe a new one for '17

"Nissan has said it will instead concentrate on evolving the standard Fairlady Z/370Z in a more performance-oriented direction during the model's sunset years. The first evidence of this came just last week with the recently unveiled 2015 370Z NISMO, a performance model with enhanced aerodynamics over the 2014 version and improved handling in the high-speed range.
Throughout its life, the Fairlady Z/370Z Roadster utilized the same 3.7-liter V6 generating 350 hp and 276 lb-ft of torque as its hard-top counterpart. With an available six-speed manual or seven-speed automatic transmission, both offering with rev-matching downshifts, riding on a shortened wheelbase version of Nissan's front-midship platform it has served its purpose well. However, it has been rumored that the next-gen Z-car will be smaller and lighter than the 370Z, the first time Nissan will have reduced the model's displacement since the 240Z's introduction in October 1969."


Read more: Nissan to discontinue Fairlady Z Roadster production | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

RN SHARK

I wonder if the new front end is purely aesthetics in an effort to match the other Nismo models or are there functional aspects (i.e. brake cooling ducts)?
I also believe the next Z model will be a long time off. Don't be surprised if the Z takes a hiatus as it did after the Z32. A little birdie I know who is in the know said as much. Nissan has a few other RWD platform projects in the works and are putting their effort into those. The 370z was a great design and I still love my '09, but I don't think I'll return to the Z in the future.

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I'm really excited to see what the next Z has to offer. However, I'd rather wait a few years for a Z that's comparable to the current Carrera S than see another "refreshed" 370Z marketed as a Z35.

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Nargrakhan

If the 2016 was "just" a turbo/super charged modification of 370Z, would that convince anyone here to take interest in getting one? Or would you still wait for the 35?

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Thinking on that a bit more... how much would you be willing to pay for that kind of option if it was offered? It adds $$$ to what some already consider a too costly car. Probably the main reason why Nissan hasn't seriously flaunted the idea... added price and too small an interest group to recover the investment.

carlitos_370z

if they made the Z turbo or sc im going to get one lol!!!

Akurei

I like how the new Nismo looks but I think they over did it just a bit. Like the ZR1. I think the 14/13 Nismo looks way better. It would be cool if they put more speed into the Nismo, as its not much of a bargain to pay $10k or moee for only a 18 horspower and like 7 torque difference? Yeah it has cosmetics and some upgrades, but it really makes the Nismo not worth getting in terms of a Camaro RS and a Camaro SS. Irs just not a significant upgrade. Now if they do add forced induction, that be a sight to see. Just my opinion

Firebase99

If the new Z (if it ever happens actually) isnt in the $30K base price for Mustng GT performance, it wont even catch my attention. If I wanted to pay $50K for a sports car, Ill get a Vette.

UNKNOWN_370

I don't think some of you realize how many thousands of dollars in structural rigidity components the Nismo Z has. Comparing it to a camaro RS and SS shows certain lack of insight. Has anyone seen what an SS looks like, flopping around a track? Without the 1LE pkg a camaro isn't in the same ballpark as a nismo.

For my personal use I can't justify the price of a Nismo. But I give Nissan top respect for putting together a solid track vehicle. Nissan did take too long to add the oil cooler and the brake cooler should have been extended outside of the Nismo model. But it's a solid value to have that much body bracing when you track your vehicle.

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Akurei

Yeah, no offense at all, I'm sure the upgrades they did to the nismo makes it an overall better vehicle than the 370z with sports package, but it's only a small difference is all I'm saying. I didn't say I wouldn't get one if I had the money. I rather buy aftermarket parts to make the Z better than what the Nismo Z has to offer.

And Rev Match sucks. It definately shifts better than me, but I like having control of my vehicle

Nargrakhan

I'm of the mind that you're right... dollar for dollar, getting non-NISMO parts can offer more value in actual performance. However NISMO is a brand name of sorts. Dollar for dollar, you can get a better performing PC or phone for the price you pay for an Apple... but there's a certain allure of having an Apple in certain social circles. That's the kind of effect NISMO wants to have. So the price is for greater performance... but equally for just having that authentic badge.

That being said: Nissan has to make sure they find a workable balance that doesn't make them too exclusive. Given the 2015 is now available as automatic, they clearly want more people to buy them. IMHO, Nissan really needs to get a third sports car. The GT-R as the +100K beast, the Z to float in the $50K range, and a $25K performer (the IDx?) for everyone else.

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Then again... the Z is supposed to be the affordable sports car, right?

Firebase99

Ive had so many Z's Ive lost count. If the base price of the Z35 is more than $32K Ill be looking elsewhere.

o0javi0o

Still think the 2014 Nismo is better looking.

Montez

Good edit because if it started in the 50K range, just to think its a poor seller now....... oh my is all I can say in that regard.