370Z get sport package or no sport package?

Red370 · 09-11-2009, 07:09 PM

and damn, a 13.1 in an auto, talk about a kick in the stones. Will there be a 13.1 6MT?

Modshack · 09-11-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

the drag coefficient is the same as the 350 sans spoiler. I'll post the chart when I find it. Ah, here it is. Automobile drag coefficient - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ready, Fire, Aim!

I guess you missed this entry just below the one you cite:

0.30 Nissan 370Z Coupe
(0.29 with sport package) 2009

But you're still welcome to your "opinion"...

Red370 · 09-11-2009, 08:17 PM

nope, didnt miss it. BTW .01 difference? really?

Modshack · 09-11-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370

nope, didnt miss it. BTW .01 difference? really?

3.5% ......

Many manufacturers go to great lenghts for that kind of improvement...

I'm done.

kenchan · 09-11-2009, 10:56 PM

i think for people that are serious about modding cars will opt for the base without the sport package.

sport package is for people like me who just want the car as a touring car.
it's a convenient package that's a step up from base, but no where near race car
level performance or capacity. hell if i was building a race car i would get the base
with nothing on it and just rebuild the car.

molamann · 09-11-2009, 11:45 PM

But you can't deny the fact that the Sports Pkg is a major bang for buck for MOST people out there.

frost · 09-11-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by molamann

But you can't deny the fact that the Sports Pkg is a major bang for buck for MOST people out there.

roger that

steven88 · 09-12-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by noodles

It seems like the only things you want on the sport package are the brakes and the LSD. both of which can be added from the after market with better results. i would say get the base and upgrade later, 3 grand will get most of what you want (without install). But one thing to consider is that driving is a lot like sex, every man thinks he is the best at it - Jeremy Clarkson. No matter how good you think you are at heal toeing the SRM will be better unless you are on a professional level ( even if you track all the time).

well heres the thing...I would LIKE the sport brakes and also the LSD...however my ultimate goal is to run 17s and the sports brakes will not accommodate 17 inch wheels....why do I want to run 17s? cheaper tires, cheaper rims, much more selection of lightweight wheels...etc etc....I do agree they will look ugly *** hell compared to 19s or 20s...but honestly, i could careless how my car looks...as long as I'm smoking on a straight line...and handling like rails on the twisties...i'm okay with 17s....

now with the VLSD...this is going to be the problem...I see that most aftermarket clutch type LSDs are north of 1k...pretty damn expensive....I was just wondering if the stock open diff would be okay for me...like I said earlier, I do not plan to track or auto-x....none of that time attack BS...just aggressive street driving....

Sardis · 09-12-2009, 01:34 AM

Dude (and I don't use that term often)

You need to focus. You have no need for the sport brakes if you just plan on driving aggressively on the street. Yes they are nice, but the standard brakes have similar stopping distances and if you burn them up on the street, you are driving like a maniac.

If you plan on doing a lot of oversteer psycho maniac driving on the street, get the VLSD. I have no idea how much experience you have driving a car sideways, but with an open diff, if you have never experienced it, you may well end up getting into a curb or worse... Simply because instead of the car snapping back like you would expect, one wheel will just keep spinning and send you somewhere you don't want to be.

If you don't like the Syncro rev match, why are you even contemplating this. The brakes are going to do you very little good solely on the street, and you want to run smaller tires anyway.

The sports pack is such a great deal, but if you are going to upgrade the car for the track, better parts are availale. If you just want an even more competent and good lucking street machine, it's really hard to beat.

steven88 · 09-12-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sardis

Dude (and I don't use that term often)

You need to focus. You have no need for the sport brakes if you just plan on driving aggressively on the street. Yes they are nice, but the standard brakes have similar stopping distances and if you burn them up on the street, you are driving like a maniac.

If you plan on doing a lot of oversteer psycho maniac driving on the street, get the VLSD. I have no idea how much experience you have driving a car sideways, but with an open diff, if you have never experienced it, you may well end up getting into a curb or worse... Simply because instead of the car snapping back like you would expect, one wheel will just keep spinning and send you somewhere you don't want to be.

If you don't like the Syncro rev match, why are you even contemplating this. The brakes are going to do you very little good solely on the street, and you want to run smaller tires anyway.

The sports pack is such a great deal, but if you are going to upgrade the car for the track, better parts are availale. If you just want an even more competent and good lucking street machine, it's really hard to beat.

haha, no need to call me dude and say I need to focus...this is an open discussion forum and I simply wanted to get some answers to my question

by the way, I never contemplated synchro rev match....I said I do my own heel toe downshifting...so where did you come up with this idea?

Sardis · 09-12-2009, 01:50 AM

Yes, exactly. You never contemplated the syncro rev match as something you wanted, that is the point.

That is basically the only feature of the sports pack that can not be easily replicated or be replaced by an aftermarket item of better quality.

It just seems like you answered your own question.

I have big worries about the first time you have snap oversteer with the VDC off and no VLSD. I hope you get that, because if you haven't experienced it before, it may take you for a ride

kannibul · 09-12-2009, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

If you don't want warranty hassles, buy the sport package rather than go aftermarket. Changing the diff won't go over well with most Nissan dealers, so you better discuss this first before you swap it.

A limited slip diff can be helpful in slick conditions, especially snow. Why you would want to upgrade the diff if you're purely street driving doesn't really make sense to me.

I agree with everyone supporting the sport package purchase. All of the elements are an incredible deal. The base wheels look like sheisse, SRM is a wonderful feature, the spoiler DOES drop the drag coefficient, and the larger brakes are sweet.

By all means, save $2000 if you like. But you'll get the value of the sport package right back in resale alone down the road.

I know I mentioned going base and upgrading - but, I agree the sport package offers a great deal. Thing is, if someone is determined to go after-market with replacing items that are part of the sport package, then why spend the money...unless to discover that the sport package offers enough to not NEED to go aftermarket.

That's my opinion on it....

For me, my upgrades apply for items outside sport package. Intake, Exhaust, maybe some suspension stuff, maybe different brake rotors, but heck the OEM sport brakes are freakishly good compared to EVERY previous vehicle I've ever driven. I've already dodged a few idiots with them

Pushing_Tin · 09-12-2009, 03:44 AM

Another vote for the sport package.

Val Vicious · 09-12-2009, 06:01 AM

GET the Sport Package! Kicks A$$!

kenchan · 09-12-2009, 09:21 AM

Bout the syncro-rev match... I too heel and toe all the time and only drive MT cars, so originally thought the feature was for boneheads and newbs.

Well, I realized that I actually like it!

. Yah, you still need to input a tad of throttle to make it a seamless shift so there's still a tad of fun there. Also, it simplifies your shiftup as well because it works both during shiftup or down.

Say you're like me only driving the Z on the weekends. You don't have to re-familiarlize yourself with the blip when you get in the car. That alone is convenience. You just get in and just enjoy your drive.

Plus, you can shut it off if you want to...but on this car, I'm just keeping it turned on.

09-12-2009, 01:34 AM	#39 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 16	Dude (and I don't use that term often) You need to focus. You have no need for the sport brakes if you just plan on driving aggressively on the street. Yes they are nice, but the standard brakes have similar stopping distances and if you burn them up on the street, you are driving like a maniac. If you plan on doing a lot of oversteer psycho maniac driving on the street, get the VLSD. I have no idea how much experience you have driving a car sideways, but with an open diff, if you have never experienced it, you may well end up getting into a curb or worse... Simply because instead of the car snapping back like you would expect, one wheel will just keep spinning and send you somewhere you don't want to be. If you don't like the Syncro rev match, why are you even contemplating this. The brakes are going to do you very little good solely on the street, and you want to run smaller tires anyway. The sports pack is such a great deal, but if you are going to upgrade the car for the track, better parts are availale. If you just want an even more competent and good lucking street machine, it's really hard to beat. __________________ "Because in a split second, it's gone." - Ayrton Senna

09-12-2009, 01:50 AM	#41 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 16	Yes, exactly. You never contemplated the syncro rev match as something you wanted, that is the point. That is basically the only feature of the sports pack that can not be easily replicated or be replaced by an aftermarket item of better quality. It just seems like you answered your own question. I have big worries about the first time you have snap oversteer with the VDC off and no VLSD. I hope you get that, because if you haven't experienced it before, it may take you for a ride __________________ "Because in a split second, it's gone." - Ayrton Senna

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09-11-2009, 07:09 PM	#31 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	and damn, a 13.1 in an auto, talk about a kick in the stones. Will there be a 13.1 6MT?

09-11-2009, 08:17 PM	#33 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	nope, didnt miss it. BTW .01 difference? really?

09-11-2009, 10:56 PM	#35 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i think for people that are serious about modding cars will opt for the base without the sport package. sport package is for people like me who just want the car as a touring car. it's a convenient package that's a step up from base, but no where near race car level performance or capacity. hell if i was building a race car i would get the base with nothing on it and just rebuild the car.

09-11-2009, 11:45 PM	#36 (permalink)
molamann A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,666 Drives: 370Z with NAVVVVV Rep Power: 284	But you can't deny the fact that the Sports Pkg is a major bang for buck for MOST people out there.

09-12-2009, 03:44 AM	#43 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	Another vote for the sport package.

09-12-2009, 06:01 AM	#44 (permalink)
Val Vicious Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. Age: 61 Posts: 10 Drives: 09 370Z (SP) Silver Rep Power: 16	GET the Sport Package! Kicks A$$!

09-12-2009, 09:21 AM	#45 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Bout the syncro-rev match... I too heel and toe all the time and only drive MT cars, so originally thought the feature was for boneheads and newbs. Well, I realized that I actually like it! . Yah, you still need to input a tad of throttle to make it a seamless shift so there's still a tad of fun there. Also, it simplifies your shiftup as well because it works both during shiftup or down. Say you're like me only driving the Z on the weekends. You don't have to re-familiarlize yourself with the blip when you get in the car. That alone is convenience. You just get in and just enjoy your drive. Plus, you can shut it off if you want to...but on this car, I'm just keeping it turned on.