Nissan VP of product planning drops hints of possible next Z and iDX?

kenchan · 04-30-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GraphiteZ

The point of my post is to point out Nissan is not treating the Z as an iconic car as they claim based on my observations. Upgrade makes something good better. The Z used to have overheat problems and there are members here who don't race installng after market oil cooler just for daily use. This is far from being good. So, it is more like a fix to me. Just like I don't consider Nissan changing the steering lock as an "upgrade" because a steering lock that works is making the car better.

i dont think the Z34 shares its platform with any other car in the nissan line up.
that alone is commitment by nissan to give the Z34 special treatment.

also, i dont have this over heating problem you mentioned. mine is a 09 with no aftermarket oil cooler. never even considered getting one.

onzedge · 04-30-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i dont think the Z34 shares its platform with any other car in the nissan line up.
that alone is commitment by nissan to give the Z34 special treatment.

also, i dont have this over heating problem you mentioned. mine is a 09 with no aftermarket oil cooler. never even considered getting one.

Z_ealot · 04-30-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i dont think the Z34 shares its platform with any other car in the nissan line up.
that alone is commitment by nissan to give the Z34 special treatment.

also, i dont have this over heating problem you mentioned. mine is a 09 with no aftermarket oil cooler. never even considered getting one.

actually if i'm not mistaken, the Z34 shares it's chassis with the G37, maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can shed some light on the subject though

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2014, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

actually if i'm not mistaken, the Z34 shares it's chassis with the G37, maybe someone else with a little more knowledge can shed some light on the subject though

It does. It's virtually the same car. It's a Z 2+2 with a better interior and some sound deadening.

Eclipz · 04-30-2014, 09:05 PM

Nissan should mix it up and make the new Z mid-engined. That'll show toyobaru who's boss.

Felix 808 · 05-01-2014, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

Also keep that in mind new will MUST be better than the current Z.

It is not always the case that newer is better. Better can be rather subjective as well

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It does. It's virtually the same car. It's a Z 2+2 with a better interior and some sound deadening.

Again I would say better interior is subjective. I prefer the 370z instrument panel much better

YMMV.

I feel (means as much as anything other comments on the subject) Nissan will not have anything to show for on this platform until next year at the earliest.
But then again I think we are all just talking out of our

So continue to wait we will

Jordo! · 05-01-2014, 08:51 PM

I think there's a lot of room to give the Z35 a more than merely cosmetic refresh while making use of the existing Q60 platform.

They could match it to a direct injection head, offer a boosted option, refine the two trans options further, etc.

The real key, I think, will be whether or not they can shed some weight and add some extra N/A power. If they can drop the next Z by, say, 100 lbs, and bump the output up by 25 lbft of torque and and add 30+ bhp, the weight loss plus extra pull will make it feel like a totally different car out of the box.

Just wondering, but how different is the Q60 from the G37 in weight, handling, etc?

EDIT: Wait, I just looked it up... so other than the IPL version (essentially a Nismo Q60) the differences are just cosmetic???

C&D even reported the same right hander fuel starve -- 'da ****?

daisuke149 · 05-02-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I think there's a lot of room to give the Z35 a more than merely cosmetic refresh while making use of the existing Q60 platform.

They could match it to a direct injection head, offer a boosted option, refine the two trans options further, etc.

The real key, I think, will be whether or not they can shed some weight and add some extra N/A power. If they can drop the next Z by, say, 100 lbs, and bump the output up by 25 lbft of torque and and add 30+ bhp, the weight loss plus extra pull will make it feel like a totally different car out of the box.

Just wondering, but how different is the Q60 from the G37 in weight, handling, etc?

EDIT: Wait, I just looked it up... so other than the IPL version (essentially a Nismo Q60) the differences are just cosmetic???

C&D even reported the same right hander fuel starve -- 'da ****?

I just feel a 100lb weight drop and 30hp isnt enough to compete.

Mustang Gt, Camaro ss, 1le, etc. priced well / better in most cases and kick our cars butts in performance.

It needs to push 400+

I dont just want a good car, i want a good car that competes.

Firebase99 · 05-02-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

I just feel a 100lb weight drop and 30hp isnt enough to compete.

Mustang Gt, Camaro ss, 1le, etc. priced well / better in most cases and kick our cars butts in performance.

It needs to push 400+

I dont just want a good car, i want a good car that competes.

I disagree. Remember the Z is a two seat coupe (or should be in the Z35 as well). i think a sub 3000 pound car with 350hp would do just fine. Look at the Lotus.

falconfixer · 05-02-2014, 02:10 PM

I heard that the next-gen GTR is getting a whole new engine spitting out 800hp and the next-gen Z will get a hand-me-down engine from the R35.

Firebase99 · 05-02-2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer

I heard that the next-gen GTR is getting a whole new engine spitting out 800hp and the next-gen Z will get a hand-me-down engine from the R35.

The first part is correct at least.

Eclipz · 05-02-2014, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I disagree. Remember the Z is a two seat coupe (or should be in the Z35 as well). i think a sub 3000 pound car with 350hp would do just fine. Look at the Lotus.

Yea but lotus cars weigh 2400 lbs and are mid-engined cars purposefully built for the track. The Z35 will be no lotus. It wont hurt for the Z to drop a few hundred pounds, but a power boost is expected.

Drakonis GTR · 05-02-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by falconfixer

I heard that the next-gen GTR is getting a whole new engine spitting out 800hp and the next-gen Z will get a hand-me-down engine from the R35.

I was wondering if Nissan would try to get the GTR up there HP-wise with the other super-sport exotics. Not to say that the GTR doesn't have the goods to run with the big boys, but the 800 HP mark seems to be the fad with the SSE crowd. I wonder how much higher the price tag will be with that change...

As for the next Z, I am indeed curious as to which direction they go with the engine. I am also curious as to whether they will name it in regards to engine displacement, as per tradition, or if they will go the route of the Q50/Q70 and just tack on a higher number so as to give the car the impression of progressing.

daisuke149 · 05-02-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I disagree. Remember the Z is a two seat coupe (or should be in the Z35 as well). i think a sub 3000 pound car with 350hp would do just fine. Look at the Lotus.

when Nissan puts the same lightweight materials into the chassis and makes it super small and cramped, and sells the car for 70k+

then yes, you would be correct its a great car.

but when you put the Z at 30k. and its competitive 30k cars can whip it around. I want the Z to be a good car and competitive.

kenchan · 05-02-2014, 02:45 PM

g37c wheel base: 112.2in
z34 wheel base: 100.4in

a lot of share bits but the platform is different, i think.

05-01-2014, 08:51 PM	#52 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	I think there's a lot of room to give the Z35 a more than merely cosmetic refresh while making use of the existing Q60 platform. They could match it to a direct injection head, offer a boosted option, refine the two trans options further, etc. The real key, I think, will be whether or not they can shed some weight and add some extra N/A power. If they can drop the next Z by, say, 100 lbs, and bump the output up by 25 lbft of torque and and add 30+ bhp, the weight loss plus extra pull will make it feel like a totally different car out of the box. Just wondering, but how different is the Q60 from the G37 in weight, handling, etc? EDIT: Wait, I just looked it up... so other than the IPL version (essentially a Nismo Q60) the differences are just cosmetic??? C&D even reported the same right hander fuel starve -- 'da ***? __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 05-01-2014 at 08:58 PM.*

05-02-2014, 02:10 PM	#55 (permalink)
falconfixer Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: 10aC Posts: 978 Drives: Taco Rep Power: 76	I heard that the next-gen GTR is getting a whole new engine spitting out 800hp and the next-gen Z will get a hand-me-down engine from the R35. __________________ Bitch ex wife's scumbag lawyer made sure this went away.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	g37c wheel base: 112.2in z34 wheel base: 100.4in a lot of share bits but the platform is different, i think.