So that explains it :rofl2:

then they get 370z's and tt's... :ugh:

once prices on used ones drop, ricers galore :ugh2:

Back in '99-00 I had an EG hatchback with B16 cable tranny, all bolt-on's, straight pipe, Mugen chip, etc. It was fast, prolly a mid to high 13-sec. car. One day, this guy in a clean Datsun 510 with roll-bar, gauges, suspension, nice Panasport wheels, and you could hear his Mikuni carbs, rolls up next to me at the red light. He's smirking, and so did I....Green light. Boom! I blow his *** away by at least 4 car lengths. Now, this was in my early 20s. I don't do this anymore, and it was before Hondas started going rice.

Don't underestimate all Hondas :)..some can hit 12s and are streetable.

So no one in a stock Z has anything to worry about. :rofl2:

:icon18: hahaha!! odyesseee powAr!! :mad: you funny guy. :tup:

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^ you don't think 14, 15 years ago that an all-motor Honda that broke 13s was fast?...Trailer queens then were hitting 10s and even single digits. But yeah, I'm not talking trailer queens that break down or blow up after a run or two. There were streetable Hondas doing 12s even back then.

Vipers, Ferraris, etc. back then were only breaking 12s...if you look at it relatively.

I'd feel embarrassed if a Honda at least kept up with me in a 370Z.

Around here, it's guys driving their mini-van like it's a sports car. It is hilarious to watch them haul *** from the stoplight, change lanes (no turn signals) and then almost lose it trying to get stopped at the next light. Meanwhile, I barely get to third. Then there are the soccer moms in SUVs. Texting and driving all over the road. I think my next mod is a 106 recoilless rifle in the hatch area.... :shakes head: :driving:

Oh I know my friend has a Duramax dually with just tune and straight pipe. Its faster than our cars :rofl2:

A 13 has never been fast. It's quick, but not a fast car at all. Is it impressive a 1.whatever liter shitbox ran it? I guess. There's a huge difference between a mid to high 13 and 12s. And you're comparing a modified car to a stock car. If you include modified cars, there would be a list a mile long of full interior, street tire and pump gas cars running better than that all motor. And using "streetable" as a crutch to explain why the car isn't fast is weak. If you have to make it undriveable to hit lower than a 12 then you picked the wrong car.

I'd rather be embarassed in the Z than be in the Honda at all.

ibtl:driving:

+1 for ibtl

+2 for ibtl

A 1.6 (B16A) or 1.8 (B18C) Naturally Aspirated ran 13s. Power to weight. H22 with port & polish with all bolt on's, high 12s no prob..Hondas were hitting 12s NA in the 2000s and prior. Streetable meaning what? pass smog, then yes, a few were streetable.

13s has never been fast?...STOCK NSXs, Z32 TTs, FD3S, Supra MKIV TTs, Vette C5s and older, BMW M3s prior to E92s, even Ferrari F360s...all hit 13s...and they were CONSIDERED fast for their era.

I'm not trying to start a flame war. I don't like ricers neither because they're posers. But well built Hondas are fast for what they are.

The "sleeper" factor is what shocked/embarrassed the smug challenger.

Great. You're in the wrong place to defend your straight piped civic. :rofl2: Plus, you're focusing on ETs to determine "fast". I'll bet you lunch evey one of those stock cars traps noticeably higher than some fwd crapbox.

^when you use a "big block motorcycle" engine...to pull a 2,400 lb. car to do 13s...I think that's something noteworthy.

I got outta the Honda scene...owhhh, in '04. I sold that EG then. I'm not defending anything. I essentially got outta the Honda scene because it was getting ricey, cops will constantly pull you over, but best of all...I was getting older and it looks immature. Plus the JDM, Honda thing was becoming passé around that time.

It's the shock factor, or sleeper character that made Hondas interesting.

There's nothing sleeper about a civic hatch with a straight pipe. It sounds like ricey *** and eveyone around knows it.

^depends on the exhaust you use. Plus I did use a high flow, high performance, aftermarket cat...I forgot which brand but they used to advertise them in Turbo magazine. They were like $200+, kinda pricey for a cat. When DOHC VTEC hits....it sounds BEAU-TI-FUL!

If you swing that way, I guess. The only Honda I4 I've ever heard that didn't sound like a bag of smashed assholes was in a S2K.

Hate to say it but Hondas have always been rice. It really doesn't matter how fast they are or what you have done to them. Are now and always have been.

A FWD shitbox will always be a FWD shitbox

Havent read this entire thread, but throw some boost in there and they will run away with their tail between their legs.. I cant even get high HP cars to play around with me..

Yeah, if the Hondatards keep bothering you, an earful of a BOV from a car that didn't come from the factory with a turbo usually scares them away.

^yeah, I'd rather drive a 370; I owned one. The one I had was COMPLETELY stock. I'd rather have that over a heavily modded Honda that can break 12s and VIBRATES/RATTLES after it turns over.

But my point is, some Hondas are fast. I do think, however, that most out there are posers. They're the residual who didn't catch the Honda-swap craze in the late 90s. They're like the people who are too dull to see that wearing fashion from 10 yrs. ago will make you look lost.

B-series and H22As with high quality bolt on's don't sound like crap. They sound just like the Honda F1 cars.

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Wow.

Maybe he meant a broken F1?lol.

F1 is FWD?

Was this English?

As a teacher, this post makes me sad.

The s2000 sounds as bad as any other honda

Guys, please don't laugh. There are some options here you may not have thought of:

1. The OP is deaf.

2. The OP has suffered serious hearing damage.

3. The OP thought he heard a Honda F1 engine but it was really a Civic with a fart can and his friends were messing with him.

Please, let's be supportive and not critical.

True, it just looks better than any other Honda.

Hell yeah i'm down to bash some honda POS fart cans.


IBTL anyways!

i am sorry that you are a middle-aged bald headed teacher driving a odysse (sp?).... that is so sad.

I'm guessing that guy expected a different response than he got with his riveting tale of street racing his ricebox, huh?

only the weak need to flex muscle at everything...

oh, i better post this up on granpawmoses's thread. :p

I'm still trying to decipher the code he used to write his post with.

What, this? :rofl2:
I think it means he's a power bottom.

VTEC yo,