Nissan 370Z Forum  

your take on these 370z criticisms

and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note ??

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2009, 03:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: hell
Posts: 2
Drives: bugatti veyron
Rep Power: 16
bomberman is on a distinguished road
Question your take on these 370z criticisms

and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note

??
bomberman is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 05:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
g96818's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: A rock in a big pond
Posts: 681
Drives: 2009 370Z, 2012 M56
Rep Power: 3394
g96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond reputeg96818 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

only annoying road noise i heard was the rain hitting the rear fender wall
__________________
CZP are lying thieves!
g96818 is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 05:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
SB350z
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

It's a sports car, so road noise is expected. Don't like the noise, GO buy a Lexus.

The engine note is like having sex with Megan Fox... Nothing wrong with it. Stop reading those megazines and go do a test drive
 
Old 09-07-2009, 05:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
Base Member
 
noodles's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCali
Posts: 61
Drives: Mazda (for now)
Rep Power: 16
noodles is on a distinguished road
Default

They don't call them critics because they love everything.
noodles is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 07:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Island_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 228
Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z SR M6
Rep Power: 16
Island_370 is on a distinguished road
Default

I tend to agree with them. They are normally right. But it is always easier to point out the bad.

For as inexpensive as this car is, I was willing to accept the "bads" with the many many goods.

The biggest "bad" that really bothers me is the suspension's (and VDC) intolerance of any road imperfection. The VDC is very VERY invasive. I think that the if the suspension was more complacent, the VDC would be less invasive. The road (rear fender) noise doesn't really bother me.

But I love the looks and the hugely linear power band. It is close to a stock turbo car, but w/o the issues of turbos. And coming from a turbo car, I do not miss that.
__________________
Autobahn Country Club (North and South Tracks), Blackhawk Farms, Grattan, Gingerman, Mid-Ohio, Putnam Park, Road America, Sears Point, Thunderhill, VIR and "The Ring"
Island_370 is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 09:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
DooDooBrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Ranson, WV
Posts: 178
Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt
Rep Power: 16
DooDooBrown is on a distinguished road
Default

Its a sports car, and its a sports car.
DooDooBrown is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 10:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
6MT
A True Z Fanatic
 
6MT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ITU Zone 2
Posts: 22,459
Drives: Reliant Robin
Rep Power: 1790
6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Valid criticisms (both). But this is a sports car, not a sports coupe or sedan.
__________________
Andrew

2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D
6MT is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 11:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 699
Drives: 370Z-AT7 Tour+Sport
Rep Power: 375
ZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond reputeZKindaGuy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bomberman View Post
and they're usually the only criticisms in reviews, annoying road noise and engine note
??
People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.
ZKindaGuy is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 12:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
Retired admin
 
frost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Winterfell
Posts: 106,613
Drives: Your Wife Crazy
Rep Power: 0
frost frost frost frost frost frost frost frost frost frost frost
Default

I'll start with engine note first. People who can complain about that just show how little there is to complain about. I mean, you really have to try to find something to complain about if all you have is engine note.

On road noise, I've said this in a hundred other threads, but, IT'S A SPORTS CAR!!! You're supposed to be able to hear the road because they shouldn't be loading a SPORTS CAR up with all kinds of sound deadening material. I know a couple people had concerns about rocks sticking to the tires and flinging up into the wheel well. You know what that proves? We have awesome sticky tires, perfect for a SPORTS CAR.

/rant
frost is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 01:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: OKC
Posts: 96
Drives: 2009 MB Base Sport
Rep Power: 16
zilent_jay is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy View Post
People criticizing the 370Z probably are folks who:

1. have an ax to grind with any vehicles that were designed or made by Japanese folks.

2. have wives who wear the pants in their family.

3. run to the doctor if they experience an erection for more than four hours.
None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.
zilent_jay is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 02:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Modshack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Greenville NC
Posts: 2,883
Drives: 370Z Sport
Rep Power: 976
Modshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond reputeModshack has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Island_370 View Post
I tend to agree with them. They are normally right. But it is always easier to point out the bad.

For as inexpensive as this car is, I was willing to accept the "bads" with the many many goods.

.


The car is built to a price point so there will be some issues from those who demand $60K quality in a $30K car...............

I'm also tired of the "it's a sports car" rationalization. This really should have nothing to do with a cars inherent quality and/or failings. At it's price point it's going to have some but not because "it's a sports car"...
__________________

Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S
Oil Cooler DIY: Here!

Last edited by Modshack; 09-07-2009 at 02:31 PM.
Modshack is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 02:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 69
Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport
Rep Power: 16
Portlander is on a distinguished road
Default

Had my first 370Z test drive on Saturday only because my sales manager threw me the keys and said to get out of the showroom. Because I previously owned an 06 G35 Coupe 6MT and had read all the positive reviews from the major magazines, I wasn't that concerned about driving the Z prior to ordering one. Here are my observations on the driving aspects of the 370Z keeping in mind that my last car was an 07 Cayman S.

The transmission was pretty good overall. Only negative comment would be 1st and 2nd gear above 6500 rpm I felt I was putting excess strain on the engine, but with NO lack of actual power. Car pulled hard up to around 7200 and I think the extra noise gives the impression that you are ready to break something. Third gear above 6500 was perfect. Final opinion, tranny was better than the G35 but not as smooth as the CS.

Road noise humors me. As others have mentioned, you are driving a sports car not a sedate interstate cruiser. Tested car was a Touring without the Sport and I found it to be very civil on Maine's pot holed back roads and a dream on the highway. The Cayman S was the loudest car I ever owned due to the engine being in the cabin with you and the 19's I had on it picked up any and all road noise. Listening to the stereo in the Cayman was a total waste of time! My Z will have the Sport Package which will increase my noise level experience and I can't wait. Overall the 370Z was a blast to drive and if those are the only complaints we are getting, we'll be just fine.
__________________
Life is a highway!
Portlander is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 02:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
6MT
A True Z Fanatic
 
6MT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ITU Zone 2
Posts: 22,459
Drives: Reliant Robin
Rep Power: 1790
6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zilent_jay View Post
None of those apply to me, and I own a 370z. I also owned a 350z for 5 years. I have plenty of criticisms for the 370z (more so than I did for my 350z).

#1.The shifter vibrates and makes a very loud buzzing noise at high RPM.
#2.The suspension is not very compliant with road imperfections.
#3.The driver seat was made for fatass americans and moves side to side and clicks.
#4.The side view mirrors are a complete failure/design flaw. Huge blind spots on both sides, even with the mirrors angled out 100%.
#5.The rear hatch sticks and you have to push the release button repeatedly.
#6.Having to push on the paint to get the gas door open.


#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.
__________________
Andrew

2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D
6MT is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 02:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: OKC
Posts: 96
Drives: 2009 MB Base Sport
Rep Power: 16
zilent_jay is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 6MT View Post


#1. Huh? Not mine!
#2. It's not a Pontiac Vibe!
#3. WTF? I'm 165 lbs and the seat fits like a glove. No side to side here.
#4. Those mirrors are excellent! Nice and large... maybe you don't have them adjusted (?)
#5. No hatch sticking problem (never was with mine).
#6. Yeah ok.... but not a big deal.

wuff!! Com'on folks. Like it was said before, stop expecting $60k quality from a $30k car.
#1. Numerous other people have reported the same thing.
#2. Exactly, it's a sports car. My 350z was much more compliant.
#3. Not compared to my 350z. The seat has been widened and is less of a bucket than in my previous Z. I slide around more than I did previously.
#4 The mirrors suck, plain and simple. I did note that even with the mirrors angled out as far as they would go, they do not give you visibility of your blind spots, which is their sole purpose. I'll take a picture if you don't believe me. I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
#5 Again, numerous other people have reported the same thing.



Forgive the dirty car, but this picture is case and point. Taken with a 50mm from the drivers view(it's a bit zoomed due to the mm of the lens), with the mirrors fully angled out, and with a car in the blind spot. You can't see the truck at all with the stock mirror or by turning your head and looking for that matter.

I left most of the opinionated stuff out. Like the fact that my 350z felt better, inspired more confidence, and was more fun to drive even though it wasn't as fast.

Last edited by zilent_jay; 09-07-2009 at 02:45 PM.
zilent_jay is offline  
Old 09-07-2009, 02:42 PM   #15 (permalink)
6MT
A True Z Fanatic
 
6MT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: ITU Zone 2
Posts: 22,459
Drives: Reliant Robin
Rep Power: 1790
6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute6MT has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
I added those ugly cheap convex mirrors from autozone and have had no issues since.
LMFAO!!
__________________
Andrew

2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold
2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D
6MT is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2