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xDIEGOx 12-22-2008 11:48 PM

Targa / T-Top 370Z
 
If a targa or a t-top was offered for the 370Z, would you consider either one? Or would you just go with a regular convertible?


If a targa top was offered, I'd definitely go with that.

zcarpilot 12-23-2008 12:13 AM

I love my see through T-tops...simple minds fascinate easily. A Targa seems much easier on paper, but alas Nissan has declined.

I was writing Santa when I heard the official spec.- no sunroof -no moonroof -no T-tops and lastly no Targa...dear diary fffffd again!

That rant aside, I love the potential of the new 370Z.

I keep flexing my right ankel/foot in anticipation...see you at the dealership.

Slidefox 12-23-2008 12:15 AM

T-Tops are for Trans-Ams.... A Targa, like the Supras, would be awesome!!

AK370Z 12-23-2008 12:32 AM

I had T-tops in a camaro I previously owned and I hated it! Most annoying feature in a car. I have never taken it off during my whole ownership of the car. so, t-top = scratch.

Targa is something I would consider. They look nice. I have seen Corvettes with targa and I like them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...6targa2097.jpg

I do like the LOOK of the convertibles but performance wise they are less rigid and heavier (due to boot). Still they are great weekend cars though. When driving alongside the mountains or rivers, you can't beat the convertible.

Coupe is the winner!

shumby 12-23-2008 01:57 AM

targa top FTW

nogoodname 12-23-2008 09:11 AM

T-Top.....lol......... reminds me of the Camaros and Trans-AMs from back in the day........

the 80's called and said you can use the T-Top.....

frcefed 12-23-2008 10:13 AM

Targa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NorCalZman 12-23-2008 11:40 AM

T-tops for sure. I love them on my Shiro. But hey 20 years worth of progress will eventually get me to upgrade to a 370Z. Ill miss the Z31 AND its t-tops though.

Namir 12-23-2008 11:42 AM

Targa FTW!
like the original Viper.
http://i.cnn.net/money/galleries/200...2_dg_viper.jpg
the 300zx
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/im...s/8212_982.JPG
And the supra.
http://www.ssip.net/upload/toyota-su...side-1_111.jpg

NSX, Carrera GT, Corvette.... removable hard tops are awesome. You get the best of both worlds and best of all, you don't need that hideous cloth top!

nogoodname 12-23-2008 11:44 AM

convertibles are just ugly with the top up............. they should change it to a targa top

shumby 12-23-2008 04:11 PM

^^^ seems like we got alot of targa lovers on here

o0javi0o 12-23-2008 07:42 PM

Targa !!!

370z 12-24-2008 12:18 PM

i'm all for coupe

Crash 12-25-2008 04:25 AM

Coupe. I've had my fill of T-Tops (all my firebirds) and targa tops (my corvette) and convertables (my Solstice) and what not... Honestly, I like to rigid feel of a solid coupe top.

Besides, I've never liked the look of the Zs in convertible.

Yeah, the T-Tops were fun, but I'm over it.

Toast 12-25-2008 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 11494)
I had T-tops in a camaro I previously owned and I hated it! Most annoying feature in a car. I have never taken it off during my whole ownership of the car. so, t-top = scratch.

Targa is something I would consider. They look nice. I have seen Corvettes with targa and I like them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...6targa2097.jpg

I do like the LOOK of the convertibles but performance wise they are less rigid and heavier (due to boot). Still they are great weekend cars though. When driving alongside the mountains or rivers, you can't beat the convertible.

Coupe is the winner!

I think the differences between convertibles and coupes are so small you`re never going to feel it unless you`re on a racetrack, in a helmet, pushing the car to its limit and barely sticking to the tarmac. Everybody cites this `rigidity` thing with convertibles only because motoring journalists continually point it out so we all imagine we`re feeling that lack of rigidity, but we`re not because most people never drive that hard. Yes, the 0-60 time is slightly slower because of the extra weight (which was added to `rigidise` it), so in fact its no less rigid at all, but if we`re talking about driving experience, well you feel more speed with no roof, and you can hear your engine better.

Crash 12-26-2008 05:18 AM

That depends on the car still. The corvette has a full chassis. There are cars that only have half frames (Like F-Bodies and mustangs).

But more importantly, there's a HUGE difference between convertibles and roadsters: Roadsters were designed to be topless. Their frames are tough from the get-go. Convertibles, however, are usually an afterthought. Hence the extra crap on them to make them more rigid... But that doesn't mean they're as rigid as a coupe.

BTW, I felt the lack of stiffness in my Trans Am which was a T-Top. That frame flexed and twisted like it was NOTHING. Taking turn, or going up and down drive ways was a fantastic reminder how crappy the half frames were. It felt slightly better when the tops were on, but not much. And the car DESPERATELY needed sub-frame connectors which I'd never got around to doing.

You can certainly feel rigidity in a car, convertible vs. coupe. You CAN feel that. Added weight is a mute point, but for racing, convertible isn't the smartest idea (suspension and rigidity wise)

Toast 12-30-2008 12:48 AM

Well, look I don`t want to argue with you on your Trans-Am and whether it had any build quality issues - I haven`t driven one so can`t comment. And you`re right it depends upon the car; and right again that once long ago, roadsters were different from convertibles, were different from coupes. But its 2008 now and things are different, and I just want to make the broad point that you should never underestimate the power of suggestion.

Try this experiment: hand someone a glass of wine and ask them what they think of it. Then when they are halfway down the glass hand them the tasting notes that the experts have written - the bit that says it`s got strong fruit tastes, or maybe even figs and is a little over-oaked. Of course people are going to say "Oh yes, I can clearly pick out figs, no problem" because nobody wants to feel foolish or unrefined by having missed it.

Similar with car journalists. Try and find an article on a convertible (or roadster) that doesn`t open up with the old hard-top vs. rigidity thing. And so people imagine they can feel it in all sorts of cars that are built stiffer these days.

Your 0-60 isn`t a moot point by the way - if acceleration is all you want, buy a hard-top (or a faster car, even). For racing, like you (and I) said, that`s when you push a car to its limit - that`s when you`ll feel it. But not when you`re off to WalMart for the shopping.

Crash 12-30-2008 01:03 AM

Actually, I hate to say it, because I completely agree with you, but there was an article on the Mallet Solstice that didn't mention anything about the fact that it's a roadster, but really spent much of the time talking about how well it drives and how much fun it is... Of course, at that time GM didn't have a hard top Solstice (and we'll see if they last long enough to put the Solstice Coupe into production). But I do agree with you.

frost 12-30-2008 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 12423)
That depends on the car still. The corvette has a full chassis. There are cars that only have half frames (Like F-Bodies and mustangs).

But more importantly, there's a HUGE difference between convertibles and roadsters: Roadsters were designed to be topless. Their frames are tough from the get-go. Convertibles, however, are usually an afterthought. Hence the extra crap on them to make them more rigid... But that doesn't mean they're as rigid as a coupe.

BTW, I felt the lack of stiffness in my Trans Am which was a T-Top. That frame flexed and twisted like it was NOTHING. Taking turn, or going up and down drive ways was a fantastic reminder how crappy the half frames were. It felt slightly better when the tops were on, but not much. And the car DESPERATELY needed sub-frame connectors which I'd never got around to doing.

You can certainly feel rigidity in a car, convertible vs. coupe. You CAN feel that. Added weight is a mute point, but for racing, convertible isn't the smartest idea (suspension and rigidity wise)

As a former F-bod owner myself, I know the pains of body flex with the T-tops. In fact, body flex was so bad that I remember a couple people on the boards actually twisting the bodies enough for the T's to actually come out of place and fall to the ground. Subframe connectors were my first purchase which helped out a lot.
That being said, it definitely depends on the car, because both my c5 and c6 vette had a "removable" (not allowed to call it a targa because that name is owned by porche) top and felt stiff as hell, even with the top off. Just depends on the money invested into the car by the manufacturer.

Crash 12-30-2008 12:33 PM

One thing I always admired about Corvettes is that they've always had a full solid frame. The C6 chassis is the best chassis ever created (IMO). GM spent billions to design it and I honestly couldn't believe how great it came out.

But I still wouldn't buy another GM. Quality control on GMs make me NEVER want to go about 150MPH without a racing harness, roll cage, and full suspension replacement.

ACEMAN 12-30-2008 02:18 PM

I have always like Targa Tops aswell

T Tops are nice.. But can be more of a bother.. I never really take them out on my 93 300zx

Todd

AK370Z 02-03-2009 07:56 PM

How about this for an idea? ;)

http://www.the370z.com/images/370zfo..._Raited800.png

frost 02-03-2009 08:08 PM

Sexy

Slidefox 02-03-2009 08:25 PM

Wow!!

nogoodname 02-03-2009 09:15 PM

^^ lol.............i voted for a T-Top long ago

Minicobra1 02-04-2009 02:57 AM

Funny thing is I have people ask me all the time if the top comes off, at least a dozen times, it just looks like it does. That is a really nice PS job :tup:

Crash 02-04-2009 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 27319)

Wow... Actually, that looks REALLY good.

TerribleONE 02-04-2009 06:54 AM

targa.. ftw!

Toast 02-05-2009 10:04 PM

Wow, thanks AK370Z, that blue Targa looks beautiful. I've always regretted that convertibles can't have the roof-line the coupe does. That long, low swoop of the roof down the the tail fin is just fantastic and best of both worlds. That would make it worth the hassle of getting in and out of the car all the while to put the panels in the back.

bilo 08-11-2010 07:14 AM

I love my Z as it is.....but if a T top or targa came out I would trade it in a heart beat. I dont even care if I loose cash on the car in the process. The older 300zx is so sick they should have done the same thing with the 370.:driving:

bilo 08-11-2010 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 27451)
Wow... Actually, that looks REALLY good.

with the color and body kit it totally reminds me of a supra. but of course better! :icon18:

4r3s 08-11-2010 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 27319)

Is that a real body kit or just concept? I like it, has a sorta gtr feel to it. Targa top looks good too, but the only downside of it is nissan would have to figure out where you would put it in the trunk which clearly right now there isnt even close to enough space.

fullmonty 08-11-2010 08:06 AM

T-Tops by far.

Mt Tam I am 08-11-2010 10:42 AM

T tops
 
T tops.
The discussion about body flex, lesser handling, etc is in our heads from years of reading and hearing it from others (I belief too - eg. Boxter vs Cayman slalom) . I had the 300 ZX tt which had the sport suspension, HICAS, vs non turbo convertible to choose from in 1995. So it was a simple choice: I had always wanted a rag top, but the t tops on the twin turbo gave me the best of both worlds. It turns out my gal hates the wind and sun on her face, so I could run with only the drivers side top removed. While not perfect, a compromise we could both live with.

Re scratching T tops: I was always carful to painstakingly put them in their supplied pouches, then strap them down. Maybe two minutes for both. Since I used the same care I always give my cars, I never had a scratch.

Biggest draw back to t tops: Poor storage option. Once I got to the store I had to put them back on to get the groceries in the trunk. My buddy had a Honda "Del Sol" which had a place in trunk lid that accepted the hard top. Then he could still use the trunk for something. Hats off to Honda engineers.

kenchan 08-11-2010 10:59 AM

coupe! :D

johnnydrama 08-11-2010 11:21 AM

so glad i found this thread! every since i bought my nismo i thought about how sick it would look with a targa top. someone who has the skills should photoshop a red nismo with the targa. It would be much appreciated thanks

Threev8s 08-11-2010 12:33 PM

I'd trade up for a retractable glass-top targa similar to what Porsche uses in the 911 if it was reasonably priced. I just don't think Nissan could ever justify the cost to engineer it for the quantity that they would expect to sell.

djpathfinder 08-11-2010 12:59 PM

Targa...oh yeah!

G Fo12ce 08-11-2010 01:42 PM

LOVED the targa on my Supra.

PapoZalsa 08-11-2010 09:02 PM

I had a 90 300ZX with T-Tops and I like it.


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