Nissan steps up to the plate:

fritz · 03-22-2014, 10:29 AM

Nissan steps up to the plate:

10 Aug 2010. Nissan sold a 370Z “MY09” to its distributor “Garatge Sport” (sic)
18 Aug 2010 Garatge Sport sold and matriculated it as “manufactured in 2010”
….and rudely rejected two valid warranty claims (VVEL relay and steering lock)… a clue to bigger problems.

10 Jan 2014 Nissan took back the car at the price I paid.
Actually the car had been made in May 2009.

Financially I am satisfied. The years of digging for hidden documents, the disbelief, the lies and attempts to tarnish my name with dealership technobabble were never worth it.
Sample CEO lawyer ******** “The year of manufacture is date of import”.

The “MYxx” (model year 2009 here) code was motor industry usage for 10 years.
The distributor CEO “did not know the age” and “did not know” the engine number either.
The engine number is also on that 10 Aug 2010 invoice # ESPRO12697
The customs import document stated “Euro4”. “Euro4” ended end August 2009 on 370Z!

As a Motor Industry R&D veteran I can suss out potential fraud. Prove it? Legally? The average Joe has no hope.

Nissan has kindly written an apology. Its dealership CEO stonewalls. Apologise? No way.
(But the local trucks/commercial Nissan dealer is AOK!)

Fritz [One of 2 posts. The other re VVEL is a DIY]

DEpointfive0 · 03-22-2014, 10:33 AM

What?

Got_Z · 03-22-2014, 10:38 AM

What the f*ck did I just read....

-M-

wstar · 03-22-2014, 10:40 AM

I'm guessing it means some shady company took delivery of an '09, dropped a '10 engine in it to fix some issue (who knows? collision, engine failure?), then sold the car as a 2010. Then they rejected warranty claims on VVEL relay and steering lock (somehow related to it being a supposedly-2010 but those parts came from a 2009 and/or the warranty/recall info was only for 2009? No idea.). Then the poster eventually figured out he actually has an '09 car.

Got_Z · 03-22-2014, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

I'm guessing it means some shady company took delivery of an '09, dropped a '10 engine in it to fix some issue (who knows? collision, engine failure?), then sold the car as a 2010. Then they rejected warranty claims on VVEL relay and steering lock (somehow related to it being a supposedly-2010 but those parts came from a 2009 and/or the warranty/recall info was only for 2009? No idea.). Then the poster eventually figured out he actually has an '09 car.

-M-

onzedge · 03-22-2014, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

What?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Z

What the f*ck did I just read....

-M-

Z_ealot · 03-22-2014, 11:07 AM

what i got out of it was that dealership he bought it from fraudulently sold him a 2010 model year Z when in actuality it was an 09 and now nissan stepped up and bought the car back from him to correct the issue and the dealership where he bought it from are still being dicks and didnt even offer an apology.

to the OP, sorry about your troubles, but the dealership is not owned by nissan and is just another franchise owner. nissan can do very little to alter their business practices other than to downgrade them on their recommended dealers list...that or pull their franchise license now that i think about it lol

kenchan · 03-22-2014, 11:48 AM

fritz- are you going to stick around?

you are the pioneer who found the first permanent solution to the steering lock problem (your brown wire cut approach).

that was then later followed by the fuse pull by another member who was inspired by your finding.

if you are leaving, thanks again for all the help!! and good luck to you.

Drakonis GTR · 03-22-2014, 11:53 AM

Well fritz, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Any plans on what you are picking up to replace the Z?

fritz · 03-23-2014, 10:16 AM

Many thanks, Kenchan & co!

I’ll “stick around”. 370Z preferred as I know it.
My ex-370Z is a good car for some-one (me!) but, once registered (plated) it seems impossible (even for the manufacturer/dealer!) to front up to bureaucracy and say “We got the year wrong”.

The dealer CEO is the President of the local Vehicle Importers Association, and “well known”. That's "Clout", neh?

Wstar, the Amateur Clown:
...makes hilarity out of extreme simplicity. Why not? Best read my post.

Z_ealot :
Nissan took up their responsibilities. They can even say “sorry” for overlooking the increasingly improbable.
“Blame the dealer” is big-biz propaganda propounded by huge legal “teams”. Don’t buy it.
….If you buy a lemon: under this propaganda interpretation the dealer’s to blame: not exactly what Magnusson/Moss had in mind! (Not that that law is relevant here).

Fritz

Elan · 03-25-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fritz

Many thanks, Kenchan & co!

I’ll “stick around”. 370Z preferred as I know it.
My ex-370Z is a good car for some-one (me!) but, once registered (plated) it seems impossible (even for the manufacturer/dealer!) to front up to bureaucracy and say “We got the year wrong”.

The dealer CEO is the President of the local Vehicle Importers Association, and “well known”. That's "Clout", neh?

Wstar, the Amateur Clown:
...makes hilarity out of extreme simplicity. Why not? Best read my post.

Z_ealot :
Nissan took up their responsibilities. They can even say “sorry” for overlooking the increasingly improbable.
“Blame the dealer” is big-biz propaganda propounded by huge legal “teams”. Don’t buy it.
….If you buy a lemon: under this propaganda interpretation the dealer’s to blame: not exactly what Magnusson/Moss had in mind! (Not that that law is relevant here).

Fritz

I don't even...

Haboob · 03-25-2014, 09:14 AM

Clearly a language barrier, but it's not that difficult to get through guys.

6MT · 03-25-2014, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

What?

A little more clarity is in order...

damian_mb · 03-25-2014, 09:25 AM

Someone forgot their golden grammar cereal this morning

Chuck33079 · 03-25-2014, 09:34 AM

Or his native language isn't English? Look at his location.

03-22-2014, 10:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
fritz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Andorre Posts: 90 Drives: 2010 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	Nissan steps up to the plate: Nissan steps up to the plate: 10 Aug 2010. Nissan sold a 370Z “MY09” to its distributor “Garatge Sport” (sic) 18 Aug 2010 Garatge Sport sold and matriculated it as “manufactured in 2010” ….and rudely rejected two valid warranty claims (VVEL relay and steering lock)… a clue to bigger problems. 10 Jan 2014 Nissan took back the car at the price I paid. Actually the car had been made in May 2009. Financially I am satisfied. The years of digging for hidden documents, the disbelief, the lies and attempts to tarnish my name with dealership technobabble were never worth it. Sample CEO lawyer ******** “The year of manufacture is date of import”. The “MYxx” (model year 2009 here) code was motor industry usage for 10 years. The distributor CEO “did not know the age” and “did not know” the engine number either. The engine number is also on that 10 Aug 2010 invoice # ESPRO12697 The customs import document stated “Euro4”. “Euro4” ended end August 2009 on 370Z! As a Motor Industry R&D veteran I can suss out potential fraud. Prove it? Legally? The average Joe has no hope. Nissan has kindly written an apology. Its dealership CEO stonewalls. Apologise? No way. (But the local trucks/commercial Nissan dealer is AOK!) Fritz [One of 2 posts. The other re VVEL is a DIY] kenchan and kidkotic2001 like this.

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03-22-2014, 10:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	I'm guessing it means some shady company took delivery of an '09, dropped a '10 engine in it to fix some issue (who knows? collision, engine failure?), then sold the car as a 2010. Then they rejected warranty claims on VVEL relay and steering lock (somehow related to it being a supposedly-2010 but those parts came from a 2009 and/or the warranty/recall info was only for 2009? No idea.). Then the poster eventually figured out he actually has an '09 car. red z, Chuck33079 and DEpointfive0 like this. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

03-22-2014, 11:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10091	what i got out of it was that dealership he bought it from fraudulently sold him a 2010 model year Z when in actuality it was an 09 and now nissan stepped up and bought the car back from him to correct the issue and the dealership where he bought it from are still being dicks and didnt even offer an apology. to the OP, sorry about your troubles, but the dealership is not owned by nissan and is just another franchise owner. nissan can do very little to alter their business practices other than to downgrade them on their recommended dealers list...that or pull their franchise license now that i think about it lol Pintsize725 likes this. Last edited by Z_ealot; 03-22-2014 at 01:25 PM.

03-22-2014, 11:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	fritz- are you going to stick around? you are the pioneer who found the first permanent solution to the steering lock problem (your brown wire cut approach). that was then later followed by the fuse pull by another member who was inspired by your finding. if you are leaving, thanks again for all the help!! and good luck to you. Trips, onzedge, GaleForce and 1 others like this.

03-22-2014, 11:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
Drakonis GTR Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 154 Drives: 09' 370Z B/S Rd M6 Rep Power: 12	Well fritz, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Any plans on what you are picking up to replace the Z? __________________ 2009 Nissan 370Z Base w/ Sport Package F.I . LTHs with Non-Resonated Cat-back exhaust (C.F.) / Stillen Gen3 CAI / Up-Rev Tune

03-23-2014, 10:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
fritz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Andorre Posts: 90 Drives: 2010 370Z M6 Rep Power: 16	Many thanks, Kenchan & co! I’ll “stick around”. 370Z preferred as I know it. My ex-370Z is a good car for some-one (me!) but, once registered (plated) it seems impossible (even for the manufacturer/dealer!) to front up to bureaucracy and say “We got the year wrong”. The dealer CEO is the President of the local Vehicle Importers Association, and “well known”. That's "Clout", neh? Wstar, the Amateur Clown: ...makes hilarity out of extreme simplicity. Why not? Best read my post. *Z_ealot* : Nissan took up their responsibilities. They can even say “sorry” for overlooking the increasingly improbable. “Blame the dealer” is big-biz propaganda propounded by huge legal “teams”. Don’t buy it. ….If you buy a lemon: under this propaganda interpretation the dealer’s to blame: not exactly what Magnusson/Moss had in mind! (Not that that law is relevant here). Fritz kenchan likes this.

03-25-2014, 09:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1387	Clearly a language barrier, but it's not that difficult to get through guys. kenchan, SouthArk370Z and Chuck33079 like this.

03-25-2014, 09:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
damian_mb Base Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: MN Posts: 213 Drives: 12 370z / 13 WRX Rep Power: 12	Someone forgot their golden grammar cereal this morning

03-25-2014, 09:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Or his native language isn't English? Look at his location. Haboob likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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