I just took out a 7AT for a ride...

Red370 · 09-18-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

Paddleshift isn't your dads auto.
Its a serious piece of sports equipment aimed at serious driving enthusiasts.

I LOL'ed at that, thanks man! Totally heading to the dealership ASAP to trade in my 6spd, because after all, that auto is a serious piece of sports equipment!

shumby · 09-18-2009, 05:50 PM

me likeie my paddles staying in one place.

rudi · 09-18-2009, 06:59 PM

It doesn't take much to get comfortable with the paddles. When I drive my wife's auto, I'm always looking for the paddles. The only time I would drive the Z in auto is in heavy traffic.

bradz · 10-12-2009, 10:40 PM

Real man= MANUAL

ZkansasZ · 10-12-2009, 10:49 PM

dear god,
please some how ends the MT VS AT threads that I keep seeing all over the car sites!!!

oh and I am trying be nice for Christmas btw!

Modshack · 10-12-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bradz

Real man= MANUAL

Insecure men maybe.....

Trips · 10-12-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Insecure men maybe.....

keep it civil it's been that way so far.

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chris410

...if someone enjoys manual go for it...to say an auto is not fun is simply silly.

To add to it...put the auto in manual mode and you now have two ways to shift VS manual you have no option other than shift. Either one is a blast so the choice should match preference. Although, on the street the auto does hold the advantage since it hooks up better than the manual hence the slightly faster times we keep seeing.

This one of the or the most intelligent statement made concerning the auto manual debate.

I luv paddleshift! I think its way more fun!
And fact is. You have more control over the car.

sw1318 · 10-13-2009, 02:47 AM

Here is my personal opinion:

I’ve driven manual most of my life and when I got my hands on an EVO X MR SST 40min test drive around the twisty mountains with a mate from Mitsubishi, I can tell you paddles provide exceptional control compared to my manual EVO 7 and 8. The control of the paddles allow you to focus your turning points and speed where as a manual you will loose some time during shifts. Also, the paddles allow me to focus more intently on left foot braking. Those who have mastered this will understand what I mean.

With the above all done and satisfied with how a twin clutch transmission feels, I then went back to my 370Z 7speed auto and gave it another hard run around the same mountain.

The verdict: I can tell you the 7 speed feels just as good and quick as the SST, you will feel a slight jolt when up shifting only at lower rpm (same as the SST) but this is due to the fact that the gears are shifting so fast that it just bangs into place instantly. Nissan have done a great job with this 7 speed even tho it’s not a twin clutch setup, it’s surely close.

In the beginning I felt I had more control with the manual but after seeing my lap times around the mountains I can tell you I’ve made the correct choice in my purchase. The manual on the other hand is more work and you might ‘feel’ like you are in more control. However, once you have mastered the technology behind paddle shifting, when and how to shift right and smoothly, you will feel highly rewarded.

Both transmissions are superior in my opinion and it’s more to do with “preference” as some here have already suggested. Both are also launchable if you do it correctly. Both have rev matching technology when downshifting. It really depends if you want to do more exercise with your left foot or be more relaxed with the 7SP among the same or similar performance. The saying ‘manual is for sports cars and for real drivers’ is no longer relevant in the current era as automatic transmissions are now more aligned with manuals or even better.

Greg · 10-13-2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

keep it civil it's been that way so far.

We can hope... But there hasn't been an AT or MT thread known to man.. That's stayed civil.. IBT (possible) L

Lug · 10-13-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg

We can hope... But there hasn't been an AT or MT thread known to man.. That's stayed civil.. IBT (possible) L

That's because the Auto/Manual guys are totally lazy/insecure! The Manual/Auto is much quicker/smoother! Only an IDIOT would choose the 6M/7AT over the 7AT/6M!

plus, all the cool guys open their eggs from the little end!

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

The new 7AT is really a good improvement over the 350Zs AT....i'd still much perfer at 6MT myself though. When doing any kind of road course/autocross track events the 6MT will really pay off. Though from what i've seen it looks like the 7AT is every bit as quick as the 6MT is in the 1/4 mile....Kudos to Nissan.

The auto is.02 faster on avg.
It might just be 1/5 of a second, but that much can win a race. So it matters

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rudi

It doesn't take much to get comfortable with the paddles. When I drive my wife's auto, I'm always looking for the paddles. The only time I would drive the Z in auto is in heavy traffic.

Hey you guys forgot u can shift off the floor 2 right? Lol the poor stick is lonely cuz the paddles get all the attention.

chief_Roka · 10-13-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

I LOL'ed at that, thanks man! Totally heading to the dealership ASAP to trade in my 6spd, because after all, that auto is a serious piece of sports equipment!

I'm glad u are amused.

go take a look inside a formula 1 car. Tell me what u see?
Not a manual? Holy crap. I woulda never thunk it??? Lmao!

theDreamer · 10-13-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

I'm glad u are amused.

go take a look inside a formula 1 car. Tell me what u see?
Not a manual? Holy crap. I woulda never thunk it??? Lmao!

Really, you are going to compare the automatic in a 30-40k 370z to a million dollar F1 car. Where they have spent millions of dollars perfecting a auto/manual system.
Geez, I hate this comparison, yes the auto in the Z is good, but it is not a F1. Stop using the comparison that because F1 is using it that it clearly makes the Z auto that much better.

/sigh

09-18-2009, 05:50 PM	#47 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	me likeie my paddles staying in one place. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

10-13-2009, 02:47 AM	#54 (permalink)
sw1318 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 42 Drives: 09' 370Z Black 7SP Rep Power: 16	Here is my personal opinion: I’ve driven manual most of my life and when I got my hands on an EVO X MR SST 40min test drive around the twisty mountains with a mate from Mitsubishi, I can tell you paddles provide exceptional control compared to my manual EVO 7 and 8. The control of the paddles allow you to focus your turning points and speed where as a manual you will loose some time during shifts. Also, the paddles allow me to focus more intently on left foot braking. Those who have mastered this will understand what I mean. With the above all done and satisfied with how a twin clutch transmission feels, I then went back to my 370Z 7speed auto and gave it another hard run around the same mountain. The verdict: I can tell you the 7 speed feels just as good and quick as the SST, you will feel a slight jolt when up shifting only at lower rpm (same as the SST) but this is due to the fact that the gears are shifting so fast that it just bangs into place instantly. Nissan have done a great job with this 7 speed even tho it’s not a twin clutch setup, it’s surely close. In the beginning I felt I had more control with the manual but after seeing my lap times around the mountains I can tell you I’ve made the correct choice in my purchase. The manual on the other hand is more work and you might ‘feel’ like you are in more control. However, once you have mastered the technology behind paddle shifting, when and how to shift right and smoothly, you will feel highly rewarded. Both transmissions are superior in my opinion and it’s more to do with “preference” as some here have already suggested. Both are also launchable if you do it correctly. Both have rev matching technology when downshifting. It really depends if you want to do more exercise with your left foot or be more relaxed with the 7SP among the same or similar performance. The saying ‘manual is for sports cars and for real drivers’ is no longer relevant in the current era as automatic transmissions are now more aligned with manuals or even better. Last edited by sw1318; 10-13-2009 at 02:51 AM.

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