Highest Octane For Stock ECU??

37Z · 09-03-2009, 06:51 PM

104 Sunoco race fuel on a re-tune!!

Blown32 · 09-03-2009, 07:21 PM

Apparently this is one of those subjects that you can beat to death.As I said in my last post there are those that insist race gas will make more power in the Z because they just don't know any better.
The 370Z in stock form is NOT going to make more hp with race gas instead of the recomended fuel by the manufaster.Plain and simple!
Some know the real deal and others are lost.It is a shame that these gimmicks catch some and they waste there money!
So anyone advertising any different are looking to draw attention,don't know what they are talking about or looking to make a buck on the public that just isn't familiar with the performance world.
As for the additional 14 hp on just race gas with a stock 370z is pure bull at its best!
Guys in the race world spend thousands of dollars to gain every little bit of hp to have an edge over there competiter but a stock motor with premium fuel versus race gas is a waste of money!No advantage power wise unless its been modified with the compression raised to the point it will detonate on pump fuel!
As to the oxgeanated fuel that is a whole different type of fuel.The first post if I recall was about higher octane fuel.

JoeD · 09-03-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32

Apparently this is one of those subjects that you can beat to death.As I said in my last post there are those that insist race gas will make more power in the Z because they just don't know any better.
The 370Z in stock form is NOT going to make more hp with race gas instead of the recomended fuel by the manufaster.Plain and simple!
Some know the real deal and others are lost.It is a shame that these gimmicks catch some and they waste there money!
So anyone advertising any different are looking to draw attention,don't know what they are talking about or looking to make a buck on the public that just isn't familiar with the performance world.
As for the additional 14 hp on just race gas with a stock 370z is pure bull at its best!
Guys in the race world spend thousands of dollars to gain every little bit of hp to have an edge over there competiter but a stock motor with premium fuel versus race gas is a waste of money!No advantage power wise unless its been modified with the compression raised to the point it will detonate on pump fuel!
As to the oxgeanated fuel that is a whole different type of fuel.The first post if I recall was about higher octane fuel.

This is what I've been saying all along.

ZzzZz · 09-03-2009, 08:44 PM

Yes. Let's talk about at the pump of the majority of gas stations. It's not about educating people about race gas, 120 Octane gas, or the "more octane is always better" mentatility. It's about finding out what the 370z runs best on and possibly saving money to boot.

Let's talk about what almost all members here can get:
91 vs 92 vs 93 vs 94 AKI

External factors aside (engine condition, temperature,), will a stock 370z be able to gain anything performance-wise by pumping higher than 91 octane gas?

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Originally Posted by Blown32

The first post if I recall was about higher octane fuel.

semtex · 09-04-2009, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32

As for the additional 14 hp on just race gas with a stock 370z is pure bull at its best!

I'll PM Ryan at Injected Performance (one of the forum's sponsors) and ask him to chime in on this, seeing how he's the one who did the test and made the video. I'll let him know that you're calling him out as a liar and a fraud.

Blown32 · 09-04-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I'll PM Ryan at Injected Performance (one of the forum's sponsors) and ask him to chime in on this, seeing how he's the one who did the test and made the video. I'll let him know that you're calling him out as a liar and a fraud.

I'am afraid you are confused.Race gas and oxgeanated gas are two different things.I stated that a stock 370z will not in any way make 14 hp more with race gas.I said nothing about oxgeanated fuel.Apparently you don't know the difference.I believe the original post was questioning different octane ratings
of race gas.Not oxgeanated fuel.
As for me speaking my mind on this forum I thought that was it is all about on here.Sponsor or administrator it shouldn't make any difference.We are all equals on here as far as our opinions!

Blown32 · 09-04-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

I'll PM Ryan at Injected Performance (one of the forum's sponsors) and ask him to chime in on this, seeing how he's the one who did the test and made the video. I'll let him know that you're calling him out as a liar and a fraud.

Also my friend you used the words "liar and a fraud" not me.So they were your words.Have a nice day!

Ryan@IP · 09-04-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32

As for the additional 14 hp on just race gas with a stock 370z is pure bull at its best!

As to the oxgeanated fuel that is a whole different type of fuel.The first post if I recall was about higher octane fuel.

The XXX racing fuel is oxygenated. In fact, it is one of the most oxygenated fuels available on the market. Typical race gas on an otherwise stock car is, like the rest of this thread states over and over again, not going to do much at all. I know I wasn't being called out, but I just wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page

Here is the original blog post and video, just for reference: XXX Racing Fuel Gains 14whp on Stock 370Z : Injected Performance Blog

The video basically speaks for itself. Baseline dyno pull, adding five gallons of the XXX gas, then running it again. We don't carry the fuel, we don't sell it, and we have absolutely no bias towards or against them. The company was touring near the area and decided to stop by to advertise their product. Being curious like everyone else would likely be, we took them up on their offer and did a dyno test then and there.

The power gains are almost entirely from the oxygen content rather than the octane level. The XXX fuel used has almost twice the oxygen as other products on the market, like VP's Q16. Was it an interesting experiment? Of course! Is it a fuel that we would recommend for everyday use? Not really. It is being marketed as an alternative to race gas, and I wish them luck in getting the product out there.

Shunya · 09-04-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan@IP

The XXX racing fuel is oxygenated. In fact, it is one of the most oxygenated fuels available on the market. Typical race gas on an otherwise stock car is, like the rest of this thread states over and over again, not going to do much at all.

Here is the original blog post and video, just for reference: XXX Racing Fuel Gains 14whp on Stock 370Z : Injected Performance Blog

The video basically speaks for itself. Baseline dyno pull, adding five gallons of the XXX gas, then running it again. We don't carry the fuel, we don't sell it, and we have absolutely no bias towards or against them. The company was touring near the area and decided to stop by to advertise their product. Being curious like everyone else would likely be, we took them up on their offer and did a dyno test then and there.

The power gains are almost entirely from the oxygen content rather than the octane level. The XXX fuel used has almost twice the oxygen as other products on the market, like VP's Q16. Was it an interesting experiment? Of course! Is it a fuel that we would recommend for everyday use? Not really. It is being marketed as an alternative to race gas, and I wish them luck in getting the product out there.

hahahah GO RYAN GO!

Blown32 · 09-04-2009, 08:59 AM

No problem and your info is real interesting.Just that some people relate oxygenated fuel as ordinary race fuel and it is in a class all by it self.So was trying to get that message across to some on here that were confusing the two.
Very impressive results and thanks again for sharing the test results.

09-03-2009, 06:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
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09-03-2009, 07:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blown32 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N.J. Posts: 289 Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T Rep Power: 16	Apparently this is one of those subjects that you can beat to death.As I said in my last post there are those that insist race gas will make more power in the Z because they just don't know any better. The 370Z in stock form is NOT going to make more hp with race gas instead of the recomended fuel by the manufaster.Plain and simple! Some know the real deal and others are lost.It is a shame that these gimmicks catch some and they waste there money! So anyone advertising any different are looking to draw attention,don't know what they are talking about or looking to make a buck on the public that just isn't familiar with the performance world. As for the additional 14 hp on just race gas with a stock 370z is pure bull at its best! Guys in the race world spend thousands of dollars to gain every little bit of hp to have an edge over there competiter but a stock motor with premium fuel versus race gas is a waste of money!No advantage power wise unless its been modified with the compression raised to the point it will detonate on pump fuel! As to the oxgeanated fuel that is a whole different type of fuel.The first post if I recall was about higher octane fuel.

09-04-2009, 08:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Blown32 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N.J. Posts: 289 Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T Rep Power: 16	No problem and your info is real interesting.Just that some people relate oxygenated fuel as ordinary race fuel and it is in a class all by it self.So was trying to get that message across to some on here that were confusing the two. Very impressive results and thanks again for sharing the test results.