370z vs. 2003 mustang svt cobra

MightyBobo · 04-07-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm not worried about it. This is a Z forum after all (granted most people here don't get that worked up about it), and he's new so if he wants to get all riled up... fine.

I do like his advice, though. If I was such a rustang junkie why do I have a full year and 17,000 miles on my Z already?

I just looked at his posts - 5 out of his 6 posts are whining about 'stangs.

Funny.

ZKindaGuy · 04-07-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HTP AutoWorks

The only issue I have with them is they are a Mustang... lots of plastic and not much for quality.

I think the 2003 / 04 Terminators turned the corner for the better in regards to the Mustang quality. The car was rock solid (and heavy like a rock as well).

Alot of folks put down the new S197 models as having a cheap plastic interior. Many folks have sadly mistakened the matte silver counsel trim panels of the Premium and Deluxe GT's as being plastic. In reality they were ultra-light aircraft aluminum.

Prosport Gauges · 04-07-2010, 10:58 AM

I remember a while back when me and my tuner were playing with some fuel tables on his Subaru Forester. I believe he had a FP Green Turbo (good for 400+WHP) With a PPG set gearbox. Some old fart rolled up next to us in this black cobra with mods. and Jeff pulled so hard on him and kept going. good times....

ZKindaGuy · 04-07-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan_west06

I remember a while back when me and my tuner were playing with some fuel tables on his Subaru Forester. I believe he had a FP Green Turbo (good for 400+WHP) With a PPG set gearbox. Some old fart rolled up next to us in this black cobra with mods. and Jeff pulled so hard on him and kept going. good times....

The Terminator blower runs 8psi boost. The Subaru Forester with the FP Green Turbo runs 20 psi boost. Lets compare apples and oranges why don't you???????

The internals of a Terminator can handle about 16 psi without beefing up the internals....so lets suppose we level the playing field and throw a 16psi blower on the Terminator which will take it up to about 560 RWHP and 600 ft-lbs of TQ. Even with the 600 lb. weight disadvantage the Terminator has it will beat the Forester.

Now lets really make the playing field NEARLY even and put a Twin-Turbo on the Terminator with just 16psi. Now its HP will be about 680 to 700 RWHP which will walk away from the Forester.

And finally making the playing field entirely even a Terminator with a 20psi twin-turbo will put down around 800 RWHP and 825 lb-ft of TQ. The Terminator will be crossing the 1/4 mile mark before the Forester makes it 800 feet down the track.

So if you are going to blow a bunch of

out in your post then lets do an apples to apples comparison if you want to call folks "old farts" and make a negative innuendo about the Terminator.

MightyBobo · 04-07-2010, 09:25 PM

Jesus christ dude, he was just talking about how he knew someone with a fast Forester...what the hell was the point of that ridiculous rant?

Zsteve · 04-07-2010, 10:23 PM

really if we want to make the playing field even we would be in NASCAR with the same vehicles and all their restrictions. There is no true apples to apples in any comparison on the street.

shabarivas · 04-07-2010, 10:44 PM

could not have said it any better man... seriously... enjoy the drive - not the feeling of simply owning a fast car on paper... I enjoyed driving my 2001 corolla back in the day - still drove the piss out of it just like i do with all my cars...

ZKindaGuy · 04-07-2010, 11:02 PM

I stand by what I had to say.

MightyBobo · 04-07-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

I stand by what I had to say.

Imagine that.

ZKindaGuy · 04-07-2010, 11:18 PM

Not surprising is it? And I'm proud of it!!!

frost · 04-07-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Jesus christ dude, he was just talking about how he knew someone with a fast Forester...what the hell was the point of that ridiculous rant?

Seriously. It's not that it's not true per se, but totally out of place.

KillerBee370 · 04-08-2010, 12:13 AM

What is the point of all these VS. threads? I don't understand.

ZKindaGuy · 04-08-2010, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

Seriously. It's not that it's not true per se, but totally out of place.

Guess if I really care anyone is bothered by it....

nuTinmuch · 04-08-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

What is the point of all these VS. threads? I don't understand.

My penis is large.

ZKindaGuy · 04-08-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Cobras are NOT drag friendly. They have IRS with pretty bad wheel hop when stock... but driven right they are good for easy 12 second passes at 110+. Don't let mag times fool you.

Stock for stock the Cobra will eat up a 370. The problem is, very rarely are you going to run into a stock one. A few hundred bucks for a pulley and tune and you're dealing with a 475whp Cobra.

And if you're really unlucky, you'll run into one of the KB monsters pushing anywhere from 600-900whp.

I was making 452.0 RWHP and 422.9 RWTQ with just a stock pulley, tune, CAI and flowmaters on my Terminator.

04-07-2010, 09:25 PM	#110 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	Jesus christ dude, he was just talking about how he knew someone with a fast Forester...what the hell was the point of that ridiculous rant? __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

04-07-2010, 10:23 PM	#111 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	really if we want to make the playing field even we would be in NASCAR with the same vehicles and all their restrictions. There is no true apples to apples in any comparison on the street. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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