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jaedub 03-05-2014 07:16 PM

I thought csc is covered under 5yr/60,000miles

Trips 03-05-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2720977)
mine is a 09. no issue. :)

it's not all the cars. definitely hard to tell wat the previous owner did or how the treated the car. if you're worried maybe your dealer can offer you extended warranty on it? not sure. you can buy extended warranty 3rd party too.

i would just save up a little more and buy new.

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2720981)
People don't post on the internet when things are going great. They post when they are having problems. You get a skewed view of the world from this forum.

FWIW, let me be the first to post...my 2011 Z works perfectly. Hasn't spent a minute in the shop. My only complaint is that the stock tires wear out too fast.

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2721007)
:iagree: Never had any issues with my '09.

:iagree:


Mine is a Jan 09 build and have not had any issues :)

kenchan 03-05-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2721222)
I'm pretty sure you're going to see ~$750 in labor just to drop the transmission. Add the $100 for a replacement one (either OEM or Z1), and you've got a ballpark figure :tup:

thanks, mr.jar! :tup: finally a useful post to get some real numbers down for the op. :D

///PureSwank 03-05-2014 10:06 PM

I have an 09. Never had the csc go out. Never had the steering lock issue, and never had an oil consumption issue. (knock on wood).

Fountainhead 03-05-2014 10:17 PM

09, uses no oil, my OCI is 6 months or 3500. Steering Lock never failed, I just pulled the fuse. CSC, I keep my fluid pristine in the clutch reservoir and change it when it gets slightly amber colored. I don't do clutch drops, shift maniacally at high RPM without regard for moving parts, so I don't reckon I'm due for one for any reason I can prevent.
That being said, I knew about the CSC going in and figured since the CSC design is used on quite a few other cars it had to be slightly more reliable than the odd few that quit.
Besides, it's a sports car! Things break on these all the time, it's common knowledge!
It's like elective surgery, do your research and deal with the side effects!

Wink's as good as a nudge!

lkh5650 03-05-2014 11:19 PM

wow..thanks for all the replies guys

would CPO warranty cover the csc failure?
I am leaning towards going for 2010 touring w sport package (CPO)
should i do PPI from other place before purchase even if its nissan cpo?

kenchan 03-05-2014 11:25 PM

i keep thinking c3po when i see cpo.. lol


no idea, ask the dealer wats covered before you buy. also ask about extended warranties if you're that worried. make sure in writing that csc is covered, and hang onto that note. compare how much the ext warranty is vs the labor and parts price mr.jar noted and make your final decision.

lkh5650 03-05-2014 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2721722)
i keep thinking c3po when i see cpo.. lol


no idea, ask the dealer wats covered before you buy. also ask about extended warranties if you're that worried. make sure in writing that csc is covered, and hang onto that note. compare how much the ext warranty is vs the labor and parts price mr.jar noted and make your final decision.

hmmm okay I will ask the dealer. AFAIK even if the original warranty is expired, i can get extended warranty because it is a cpo vehicle...i think


Anyway, they are advertising this as a touring trim but i am not sure if it is, can you guys take a look and let me know?
2010 Nissan 370Z Touring, $21,995 - Cars.com

alcheng 03-06-2014 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lkh5650 (Post 2720973)
I was into buying 370z and was excited to get it because it has been my dream car.

I am looking into buying either 2011 370Z nismo used with 25k mile (which still has remaining factory warranty for months) or 2010 370z touring w sports package manual with 41k mile but CPO.

Either one should be fine but I can't make up my mind.

anyway now i see so many problems with this car on the forum.
for example steering wheel lock problem... I guess this is okay if I cut the wire or unplug the fuse.
how about csc failure? this is only covered for 3yr/36000 as far as i know and I guess its not too uncommon for it to fail? should i buy an aftermarket one? if so which one and how much is it/ and to install?
how about oil consumption....?


goddd i was so close to making a purchase and now i am puzzled.. help me :(
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three problems you call it "so many"??? :confused:


OP, how many fingers do you have in total...?? :confused:

if you call this "so many problem..."

go buy a volks wagen or bimmer... then you will know what "gazillions" means.


1) pull the fuse
2) change the csc, it costs but not arm and a leg
3) mine is a 2011 and I have no issue at all.

alcheng 03-06-2014 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2721222)
I'm pretty sure you're going to see ~$750 in labor just to drop the transmission. Add the $100 for a replacement one (either OEM or Z1), and you've got a ballpark figure :tup:


fyi, an oil change for a mercedes c-class is about $250 at the dealer.

and you need to do that in the dealer otherwise the computer cannot be reset.


thus I think ~$850 to change the CSC is quite cheap since it's gonna last much long than 3 oil change for a sh!t-class

JARblue 03-06-2014 06:47 AM

I think there is a thread around here where someone got confirmation from NNA that the CSC is not covered under the powertrain warranty. That being said, there are a few people who did get the dealer to cover it after 36K miles. However, there are plenty of people whose dealers would not cover it under the powertrain warranty.

FWIW, I have a 2011 with almost 50K miles and no issues. I am prepared to order the ZSpeed CSC and have it overnighted when it goes out. Mine is a DD so I definitely want to minimize the downtime.

lkh5650 03-06-2014 02:33 PM

Thanks for all these replies guys! I think i will definitely get 370z. I am just not sure if I should go for 2010 CPO version and save money (get 7yr 100k) or spend like 3k more to get 2012 version with remaining 18months or so warranty

mcphelps 03-06-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lkh5650 (Post 2721728)
Anyway, they are advertising this as a touring trim but i am not sure if it is, can you guys take a look and let me know?
2010 Nissan 370Z Touring, $21,995 - Cars.com

I think all touring cars are going to have the sat/nav antenna on the roof in front of the rear hatch. I don't see it on that one.

Edit: I looked at the rest of the pictures, and that looks like a base/sport model with aftermarket leather seat covers.

To to add to the 09 remarks, mine was consuming 1-2 quarts between 3750 mile oil changes until about 30K miles, then it stopped.
I pulled the fuse before the steering wheel lock could fail, and at 50K miles, I have added fluid to the clutch reservoir once, after reading about the failure here. It was a little low. That was 6 months ago, and when I checked it last week it was still full. I do not hold the clutch in at lights; I shift to neutral. Don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I did have to have the rack/pinion assembly replaced for seepage; one of the bellows was wet. Also had to have the radio/ac control faceplate (part of the nav package) replaced because the volume and temp control knobs started acting irratically. These repairs were done at 30K miles.

andyj 03-06-2014 04:08 PM

OP- I think you are asking very reasonable questions. Thanks to all the folks who contribute to this forum, a great deal of information and owners' impressions are available here. Thanks to posters, by the way. I'm also in the market for a Z, just waiting for the right one to come along that's reasonably priced.

Initially I was looking at the 09 and 10, but there are threads on this forum about 09 engines having factory design problems being replaced. Obviously, many folks with 09s have had no problems, but the fact that some 09 engines have been replaced does mean that caution is prudent. Somewhere there is a post that the engine problem extended into the 2010 model year, but was corrected by Nissan somewhere around VIN # 503XXX. That's what the post said, to my best recollection, maybe others more knowledgeable can add more accurate information about this.


A 2011 or newer will simply avoid the possible factory engine problem. If I get one it'll either be a CPO, or I'll get the longest transferrable warranty available.
Also verifiable and regular oil change records tell a lot, and a dealer can give you history of warranty work. As you know, sports cars often get driven hard since that's what they were built for, but a well maintained car is always a best hedge against potential problems inherent to all cars. The extended warranty, whether cpo or otherwise, is insurance against unlikely but expensive repairs.

Luciano13 03-06-2014 04:55 PM

Am i the only one who is tired of seeing all these threads on" should i buy a 370z"???
There's like 50 of them.
All cars break. If u can afford this car, u can afford to fix it. If u can't afford repairs on a vehicle A smart person would buy something they can afford.
All cars have their problems. EVERY SINGLE ONE. if the OP doesn't realize that???
They need to rethink this car thing.


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