Now U Can Hate Me - 370z v 350z

chubbs

Firstly, apologies for my recent absence from this excellent forum - I'm in the middle of moving house and it's taking up all of my time. But enough of that, let's get to the point...



Thanks to my friend who is THE BEST Nissan dealer in the south of England, last weekend I combined the annual servicing of my 350z with a 3 hour test drive of one of his 370z's (and one of his GTR's - but more of that later).

I approached the test drive wanting to love the 370z because I really like its looks (it has only been available here in the UK for a few weeks). I have owned 350z's since 2004, so I know what I want from a Z car...

1. THE LOOKS -
I love how the exterior of the 370z looks - lower, more squat, wider, shorter, more curvaceous. Nissan may have only shaved a few inches here and there, but man have they made a difference.
The only thing I don't like about the exterior styling is the rear wheel arch. It's too big, fat and cumbersome. The rest is good.

I also like the interior, but it was slightly underwhelming. It looks like they've taken the 350z plastics and put a few tarty leather bits on top. My son laughed at the 'cycle helmets' they've glued onto the tops of the 3 dashboard dials - and I too cannot see why they are there. He hates the suede - personally, I can see why it's there (less slippage!).
Inside, I love the slope of the tops of the doors - ergonomically good.
Bose stereo (I was driving the posh model) - adequate, just like the 350z Bose.

Overall, I think the 370z looks good, but I must say that it doesn't eclipse my 350z - which also looks pretty damn tasty

2. THE DRIVE -
People have complained about the sound of the 370z compared to the SOUND OF THE 350z, so the first thing I did was to listen.... and to be honest, I think the 370z sounds fcucking BRILLIANT. My 350z sounds lovely, but all the sound comes from the exhaust - it's a sound that turns heads on the street. BUT, although the sound from the 370z isn't a 'street-head-turner', it's so much more meaty. The sound you get in the 370z cabin is the sound of a powerful engine, not a loud exhaust. I must say that as I drove along I thought, "this sounds like a Porsche".
...so you don't hate me yet - please read on...

The handling IS CR@P - TOTAL CR@P. At low speeds the 370z feels just like my 2006 350z - no different at all - fairly comfortable, but you can feel all the bumps in the road. I can live with this because of my car's high speed handling. At high speeds (and this is where it matters to me), I had no confidence in the 370z - it floated, it lurched, it rolled, it made me feel that I had to slow down, which I did (even though I was on my private road ). At 120+mph my 350z hugs the road, it just sits there and it goes exactly where I tell it to go - even at 100+mph this 370z felt dangerous (please don't tell me to check the tyre pressures, they were ok). I sooo wanted to like the 370z, but the high speed handling (or lack of it) killed it for me.

In the UK a 370z costs the equivalent of $60,000 and I would only get the equivalent of $30,000 for my lovely 350z, so the 370z needs to be good and I'm sorry, but it just wasn't quite good enough


BUT...

I got a ride in a GTR

Although I couldn't drive it, being the passenger was... nice! This car KILLS. We pulled nearly 1.5 lateral G on a roundabout (turning circle) - we stopped from 100mph to zero in NO TIME AT ALL - we accelerated so fast that I was pinned to my seat, etc etc. Unfortunately the servicing costs are bad - they recommend $250 per month (UK prices) so that the servicing bill doesn't give you a heart attack (the GTR has to be serviced every 6 months). I love that car, but I don't think I can afford to run it.





SUMMARY - I like the 370z'd looks (although I think they've made it a bit too lardy and comfortable), but HATE its poor handling. Nissan have fcucked up the suspension.

So I'm stuck.

Help - I have a bit of profit from the sale of my house. What do I do? Keep my 3 year old 350z and supercharge it? Get a new car that's not a 370z? Wait until the MY10 370z comes out and replace the suspension immediately? I'm stuck - help!!!

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xiven

the handling was crap? must not have been the sport

billydsz

LOL you're kidding right? I have the touring coupe in an 05 350 and an 09 370 and the 350 feels like a toy in comparison.

This has to be a joke.

chubbs

It was the sport (or UK equivalent).

billy - it's no joke mate - I really wanted to love the 370z.

zman - I respect your knowledge - maybe the European suspension setup suks.
edit - I think you're right, I should try another one.

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billydsz

Truly bizarre and totally counter to my experience. Oh well I guess that's what make a horse race.

Steven

yea, since the "non-sports" handle like a towncar.


yea, lets all bow down to the "sports package".

zman1910

About the handling......I'm stunned you would say that.

I've had an 04 Z, an 06 Z and a G coupe and while stable at high speeds.....the 370z felt even more so to me. Don't really know what to think about your situation. I would suggest giving it another chance in a different Z car.

o0javi0o

That's called personal opinion and appreciation.
Some will like it, some not.

I still have my 07 350z, I've test drove several times the 370z Touring Sport Package, and in my very personal opinion, I really like it vs my 350z, even though I don't feel to much difference at cruising speeds, but I really feel the difference of stability in reference to my 350z . The 370z is more comfortable, more stylish, better materials at the interiors, and so and so. And I'll get my PG Touring Sport Package with orange interior 370z hopefully at the end of the year, beginning of 2010 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm love.

No hate, it is just personal opinion

PS: I like better, at this precise moment, the exhaust tone note of my 350z

AK370Z

Mr. Chubbs,

I'm very shocked at your impression on the suspension. It's my MOST favorite feature this new 370Z. The suspension is all aluminum and VERY responsive. Therefore, you feel all the bump in the road and it's a good thing . I am going to guess you drove the sports model with wider tires. (?) Does your dealer have a Z with 18" base rims? give that a try and see if you like the thinner tires better.

Can I suggest 135i?

P.S. We will never hate you! You're our ambassador from England.

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chubbs

I haven't thanked you for the decals yet!

EVERYBODY - - - THIS GUY (AK) IS THE NICEST PERSON IN THE WORLD.... I woke up a couple of weeks ago, opened a letter and it contained a set of the370z.com decals. AK had sent them to me - just because he's a really nice person!!!

I haven't had time to put them on my 350z yet, but I will ...soon!

Thanks AK, you're a star!



ps - i appreciate the 135i suggestion, but no thanks!

pps - yes it had the bigger wheels and wider tyres, but they're exactly the same as on my 350z.

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cdawg410

FYI; it is normal to have a pint at 10am across the pond. I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin.

I did not want to like the 370 coming out of a 350. I wanted to buy an M3 or at the least a g37 as my first foray into adulthood. I did myself a disservice by test driving the 370 because I never made it out of the dealership. The difference was that great between the two. For me, the 370 is superior to the 350 in every way. Unfortunately the M3 will have to wait another couple of years.

chubbs

best analysis yet! but I ain't sayin I'm wrong, I'm just sayin ur funny.

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jginnane

Interesting observation about life cycles.

It goes this way: 350Z --> G37 --> FX --> EX --> 370Z

IOW, after you've sampled the creampuffs, the bully monsters, and the "pony" bully... you'll be back around.

In our case, we skipped the EX35 because no East Coast dealers had the model in RWD only. (And we tried, for 5-6 months.) Eventually came to realize that we didn't need a Mustang-sized back seat, even... got the 3rd car, a Honda Element, to give us carryspace and AWD.

AK370Z

Thank you for you kind words!

May I suggest G37 or you're looking into something else?

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chubbs

G37 isn't available in the UK (yet, unless it's an import), but no, I need something MORE 'seat of the pants', not less. I was hoping the 370 would be that car, but currently I'm not convinced. I'll wait and see how they develop it.

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