Now U Can Hate Me - 370z v 350z

mrmixitup · 09-02-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mamarracho

dude I have an E55 amg and the 370z handles so much better...

That's because the E55 weighs 4000 pounds.

nogoodname · 09-02-2009, 12:35 AM

so this high speed problem of 120+mph will stop you from buying completely....

plan to drive at those speeds everyday???

frost · 09-02-2009, 12:37 AM

Between my 350 and my 370, I can feel a difference, but I have chocked it up to the fact my 70 has all the handling control BS and the 50 is a base, not even traction control.

SiXK · 09-02-2009, 07:50 AM

Interesting post Chubbs, thanks for sharing your experience. Having owned a 05 350Z for 4 years and a 370Z for 7 months I have to say my opinion is quite different. I like the suspension in the 370Z, but its a subjective thing. It is my opinion that the 370Z blows my 05 350Z out of the water in terms of performance, looks and interior quality. I will admit that handling above 120MPH wasn't a huge factor for me, but it was interesting to hear your take on it. Hope you find a car you are happy with or just keep the 350Z, its a great car. To each his own, we all have our favorite Z's, mine is the 300ZXTT with the 370Z a close second.

NIZMOZ · 09-02-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I just have to blurt out that the 370Z for me absolutely inspires confidence on the track. I just had my first track day yesterday and after the instructor drove my car I was seriously stunned at what it could do. He encouraged me to get on the throttle and let the car hook up instead of coasting through some of the corners. I was amazed at how this car performs and really felt that I could drive it a lot harder and there was still lots left. You get no perspective of what this car is capable of on the street without driving in an extremely dangerous fashion (for the streets of course). Oh yea mine is a Sports with a completely stock suspension. Take a 350Z and a 370Z on the track and then tell us what you think....

I track mine, and when I drove the 370z NISMO, it was softer, didn't handle as good to me.

NIZMOZ · 09-02-2009, 08:37 AM

As I track my car all the time and an Instructor at one track, I get to drive many cars. I haven't driven the 370z on the track yet, but I have mine many many times. When I drove the 370z NISMO I can tell right away how good of handling the car is without needing to take it to the track or for a extended test drive as I have experience on what to look for. The 350Z NISMO (at least) handles better than the 370z NISMO. I can't comment on the regular 350z vs 370z, but I do know the 370z is much softer than the 350z was and that's hurting it.

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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy

First off let me say I owned a 2007 350Z for 2 years and my 370Z for about 4 months now...so I think my rebuff of your "observations" holds more weight than your brief encounter.

Tell your son his "cycle helmets" are to prevent the blue-tinted glass from reflecting the light which can prevent the dials from being read during the day. And just to let you know even my 350Z had the 'cycle helmet' guages. If yours didn't then you must of just bought the base package.

That's pure

. Having had both the 350Z looked and handled like an idea...but the 370Z looks like the idea came true but fully refined in looks and handling. I have had the 370Z at about a dozen shows so far and it has received more compliments than my 350Z ever did doing 2 years of shows.

I have driven the 370Z into clover leafs at 70 MPH and held the curves without drift or roll. So again you must have bought just the base model 350Z as teh 370 Z Touring + Sport blows away the 350Z in regards to stability and handling.

I'm sorry but I would agree with you if you were even the slightest bit correct in your assessment but I'm sorry, your assessment just wasn't quite good enough....

zZSportZz · 09-02-2009, 08:48 AM

zomg!! My Z handles better than the space shuttle!!! True story!!

Might as well lock this thread now. It isn't going to end well in my humble opinion.

chris410 · 09-02-2009, 10:56 AM

I enjoyed the honesty however, I can tell that you have little to no track/driving school experience based on some of the comments concerning handling and how it felt at speeds over 100mph. If you do, good and as you gain experience you'll look back and laugh at your own comments.

However, you were honest so I'll tip my hat to that! The important thing is that you end up with whatever car makes you happy because in the end that's all that really counts.

Supergoji · 09-02-2009, 11:32 AM

the 350z has harder suspension then the 370z due to the fact that it needs it.
the 370z's chassis is much stiffer in all aspects and thus for the street you can soften the suspension up quite a bit.

put some stiffer springs on it and you'll feel the difference from 350z to 370z.

also the european models of japanese cars get softer suspenion than the usa and japanese.
japan has great quality smooth roads. the USA and UK do not.

370Zwolf · 09-02-2009, 05:16 PM

I hope there is no such thing as different factory suspension setups for national versions for a car with such relatively low production volume.
Anyway, if so, I hope Nissan is aware that cruising at >130mph for extended times is absolutely normal on German Autobahns - traffic permitting...
I haven´t had the opportunity to go highspeed during my test drive but I loved the way the Z performed on the winding rural road we took.
Would be highly disappointed to find out about poor highspeed handling once I get my own car...

SnakeBitten · 09-02-2009, 05:16 PM

You have to have some good suspension mods on your 350z to make this statement. And that would be apples to oranges comparison as the 370z is totally stock.

Full coils and aftermarket sways and lighter rims on your 350z should make it feel much more stable and controled than a bonestock 370z suspension. I cant see anyone driving both the 350z and 370z, both being stock, and coming away saying the 350z is better so yours has to be modded. If that is the case you should logically figure that into your experience before you decide the 370z isnt worth it based on your perception of its handling.

SMJane_Again · 09-02-2009, 08:53 PM

To be fair, Chubbs' findings during his test drive, particularly the less than optimal ride at speed, would not be the first unfavorable review from across the pond. In EVO magazine's 'Battle of the Sixes' feature in Issue 131, the 370z's high speed ride is written up as "...the suspension felt jittery at the rear, slightly aloof at the front. It never crashed, but the damping couldn't quite keep up. It would deal with one bump but would still be settling itself when the next one hit... the 370z can't keep up with the work-rate this road demands, the steering losing feel, the whole chassis becoming a touch vague and woolly." (Issue 131, 1st column, p.65). They dug the Synchro Rev Control, and then sum the 370z up with "...the Nissan is emphatically not Japanese, though, more... Australian... a great car to spend time with, real fun and a step on from the 350z- a bit more focus, a little less gearlever shake. It's more practical than the Cayman, too, and far more imaginative inside and out." (3rd column, p.65). So maybe it IS something with UK-spec 370z's, but if that's the case, then Chubbs' opinion can be no more discounted than anyone else who has had experience with the Z. So, to the dude who completely wrote off Chubb's experience and so cleverly told him to 'gtfo' with that adorable little emoticon, please realize that your experience isn't the be-all and end-all. Chubbs has been a member on this forum for a long time and isn't the type of poster to start s**t for the heck of it. Relax and remember that everyone's entitled to their opinion even if (and perhaps ESPECIALLY) it doesn't completely jive with yours.

S.

antennahead · 09-02-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again

To be fair, Chubbs' findings during his test drive, particularly the less than optimal ride at speed, would not be the first unfavorable review from across the pond. In EVO magazine's 'Battle of the Sixes' feature in Issue 131, the 370z's high speed ride is written up as "...the suspension felt jittery at the rear, slightly aloof at the front. It never crashed, but the damping couldn't quite keep up. It would deal with one bump but would still be settling itself when the next one hit... the 370z can't keep up with the work-rate this road demands, the steering losing feel, the whole chassis becoming a touch vague and woolly." (Issue 131, 1st column, p.65). They dug the Synchro Rev Control, and then sum the 370z up with "...the Nissan is emphatically not Japanese, though, more... Australian... a great car to spend time with, real fun and a step on from the 350z- a bit more focus, a little less gearlever shake. It's more practical than the Cayman, too, and far more imaginative inside and out." (3rd column, p.65). So maybe it IS something with UK-spec 370z's, but if that's the case, then Chubbs' opinion can be no more discounted than anyone else who has had experience with the Z. So, to the dude who completely wrote off Chubb's experience and so cleverly told him to 'gtfo' with that adorable little emoticon, please realize that your experience isn't the be-all and end-all. Chubbs has been a member on this forum for a long time and isn't the type of poster to start s**t for the heck of it. Relax and remember that everyone's entitiled to their opinion even if (and perhaps ESPECIALLY) it doesn't completely jive with yours.

S.

Chubbs is a good dude, and would never incite a riot...... well, maybe a small one

Seriously, I took his post as a request for "what gives guys? I really wasn't expecting this impression", not an open bashing of our beloved Z. I still stand by my earlier post, that driving the 370, if you own a 350, can be a very different experience, as the two cars, IMO, are a different "feel" on the road.

John

NIZMOZ · 09-02-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

You have to have some good suspension mods on your 350z to make this statement. And that would be apples to oranges comparison as the 370z is totally stock.

Full coils and aftermarket sways and lighter rims on your 350z should make it feel much more stable and controled than a bonestock 370z suspension. I cant see anyone driving both the 350z and 370z, both being stock, and coming away saying the 350z is better so yours has to be modded. If that is the case you should logically figure that into your experience before you decide the 370z isnt worth it based on your perception of its handling.

Mine's not modded in the suspension area.

Forrest · 09-03-2009, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I can't comment on the regular 350z vs 370z, but I do know the 370z is much softer than the 350z was and that's hurting it.

i can comment the 370z is "softer" than the 350z. I pesonaly dont like it but its not a deal breaker for me. I still dont understand how the 370z has less body roll yet is "softer" but i feel it is.

09-02-2009, 07:50 AM	#49 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 185	Interesting post Chubbs, thanks for sharing your experience. Having owned a 05 350Z for 4 years and a 370Z for 7 months I have to say my opinion is quite different. I like the suspension in the 370Z, but its a subjective thing. It is my opinion that the 370Z blows my 05 350Z out of the water in terms of performance, looks and interior quality. I will admit that handling above 120MPH wasn't a huge factor for me, but it was interesting to hear your take on it. Hope you find a car you are happy with or just keep the 350Z, its a great car. To each his own, we all have our favorite Z's, mine is the 300ZXTT with the 370Z a close second. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

09-02-2009, 08:48 AM	#52 (permalink)
zZSportZz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,095 Drives: 370z Blk on Blk 6MT Rep Power: 18	zomg!! My Z handles better than the space shuttle!!! True story!! Might as well lock this thread now. It isn't going to end well in my humble opinion. __________________ --Rick

09-02-2009, 10:56 AM	#53 (permalink)
chris410 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 345 Drives: 10' GT500 Rep Power: 16	I enjoyed the honesty however, I can tell that you have little to no track/driving school experience based on some of the comments concerning handling and how it felt at speeds over 100mph. If you do, good and as you gain experience you'll look back and laugh at your own comments. However, you were honest so I'll tip my hat to that! The important thing is that you end up with whatever car makes you happy because in the end that's all that really counts. __________________ Chris Current: 2014 WRX Stage I + SPT / 2013 Hayabusa 202HP Former:09 370Z 7-AT PW/Ark Type 2 exhaust/Evo R lip/TSW Nurburgring carbon

09-02-2009, 05:16 PM	#55 (permalink)
370Zwolf Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Erding - City of Beer Age: 49 Posts: 77 Drives: 370Z Pack 6MT BP Rep Power: 16	I hope there is no such thing as different factory suspension setups for national versions for a car with such relatively low production volume. Anyway, if so, I hope Nissan is aware that cruising at >130mph for extended times is absolutely normal on German Autobahns - traffic permitting... I haven´t had the opportunity to go highspeed during my test drive but I loved the way the Z performed on the winding rural road we took. Would be highly disappointed to find out about poor highspeed handling once I get my own car... __________________ "For once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the face of the earth with your head turned skywards, For you will forever long to be up there again where you once have been." - Leonardo DaVinci

09-02-2009, 05:16 PM	#56 (permalink)
SnakeBitten Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwood Posts: 232 Drives: 05 DBZ M6 Rep Power: 16	You have to have some good suspension mods on your 350z to make this statement. And that would be apples to oranges comparison as the 370z is totally stock. Full coils and aftermarket sways and lighter rims on your 350z should make it feel much more stable and controled than a bonestock 370z suspension. I cant see anyone driving both the 350z and 370z, both being stock, and coming away saying the 350z is better so yours has to be modded. If that is the case you should logically figure that into your experience before you decide the 370z isnt worth it based on your perception of its handling. __________________

09-02-2009, 12:35 AM	#47 (permalink)
nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1764	so this high speed problem of 120+mph will stop you from buying completely.... plan to drive at those speeds everyday???

09-02-2009, 12:37 AM	#48 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Between my 350 and my 370, I can feel a difference, but I have chocked it up to the fact my 70 has all the handling control BS and the 50 is a base, not even traction control.

09-02-2009, 11:32 AM	#54 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 256	the 350z has harder suspension then the 370z due to the fact that it needs it. the 370z's chassis is much stiffer in all aspects and thus for the street you can soften the suspension up quite a bit. put some stiffer springs on it and you'll feel the difference from 350z to 370z. also the european models of japanese cars get softer suspenion than the usa and japanese. japan has great quality smooth roads. the USA and UK do not.

09-02-2009, 08:53 PM	#57 (permalink)
SMJane_Again Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: COS, CO Posts: 137 Drives: 18 Golf R Rep Power: 17	To be fair, Chubbs' findings during his test drive, particularly the less than optimal ride at speed, would not be the first unfavorable review from across the pond. In EVO magazine's 'Battle of the Sixes' feature in Issue 131, the 370z's high speed ride is written up as "...the suspension felt jittery at the rear, slightly aloof at the front. It never crashed, but the damping couldn't quite keep up. It would deal with one bump but would still be settling itself when the next one hit... the 370z can't keep up with the work-rate this road demands, the steering losing feel, the whole chassis becoming a touch vague and woolly." (Issue 131, 1st column, p.65). They dug the Synchro Rev Control, and then sum the 370z up with "...the Nissan is emphatically not Japanese, though, more... Australian... a great car to spend time with, real fun and a step on from the 350z- a bit more focus, a little less gearlever shake. It's more practical than the Cayman, too, and far more imaginative inside and out." (3rd column, p.65). So maybe it IS something with UK-spec 370z's, but if that's the case, then Chubbs' opinion can be no more discounted than anyone else who has had experience with the Z. So, to the dude who completely wrote off Chubb's experience and so cleverly told him to 'gtfo' with that adorable little emoticon, please realize that your experience isn't the be-all and end-all. Chubbs has been a member on this forum for a long time and isn't the type of poster to start s*t for the heck of it. Relax and remember that everyone's entitled to their opinion even if (and perhaps ESPECIALLY) it doesn't completely jive with yours. S. __________________ ~S.M. "Don't look back. Someone might be gaining on you." -Satchel Paige Last edited by SMJane_Again; 09-03-2009 at 01:27 AM.*

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