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tr0n 03-04-2014 06:00 AM

product/company warnings
 
I haven't seen a consolidated thread on this topic, but I would like to start a thread that people post theirs and other's product warnings. The purpose of this thread is not to flame, but to inform and prevent future headaches for fellow forum members. Examples would include (but not limited to) shoddy craftsmanship or shady business practices.

I'll start with some posts I found around on this forum and others.

http://www.the370z.com/wheels-tires/...rnational.html
"Warning" Kranson Forged Lies and Bs - G35Driver
This Guy's Wheel Self-Destructed And The Company Who Made It Is Blaming Him

ImportConvert 03-04-2014 06:07 AM

Berk exhaust.

Product: CBE for 370Z

Issues: Hooks kept sliding out of the grommets and exhaust kept hanging only by the mid-pip on the left side. This was caused by the hooks being angled and not having any swell on the end. Hit a few bumps, and they slid out of the rubber grommets, which only fit partially into, anyway, as the hangers were not long enough to fully pass through the grommets.

Attempted resolution: Berk acted surprised, said they would fabricate a new mount/hanger setup for me. They also accepted credit-card payment from me for new rubber grommets, as I ruined one trying to glue the hanger in.

Final resolution: I sold the car 2 years later never having received anything, nor being charged for anything, by Berk. It is my impression that shoddy work is their hallmark and they are fine with it, based on my experience and multiple contacts with them, during which pictures of the problem were sent, etc.

Haboob 03-04-2014 07:24 AM

Never have had an issue with my Berk HFC or CBE.

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2718698)
Never have had an issue with my Berk HFC or CBE.

My buddy's Berk HFCs have worked fine for years.

On topic, when can we add GTM to this list? :stirthepot:

And Mishimoto for making crap that could ruin your car? :stirthepot:

I'll give 10:1 odds that this thread is not long for this world.

onzedge 03-04-2014 08:00 AM

I have had no issues with my Berk CBE...

XiP 03-04-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718712)
My buddy's Berk HFCs have worked fine for years.

On topic, when can we add GTM to this list? :stirthepot:

And Mishimoto for making crap that could ruin your car? :stirthepot:

I'll give 10:1 odds that this thread is not long for this world.

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FPenvy 03-04-2014 08:13 AM

IBTL? lol

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 08:15 AM

I do find it very odd that this is the only car forum I've been on that doesn't have a separate subforum for product and vendor reviews.

JARblue 03-04-2014 08:22 AM

Sweet! Time for some vendor bashing :ugh:

enkei2k 03-04-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718761)
I do find it very odd that this is the only car forum I've been on that doesn't have a separate subforum for product and vendor reviews.

Not saying this is the case but vendors pay to keep the site running (along with premium membership).

If there was even a single bad review, chances are the vendor will see it, report it to the mods and ask to have it removed since it'll make them look bad. Gotta keep those that pay happy, you know? Otherwise, they'll probably get upset and not renew their vendorship, thus losing one source of income for the forum.

Also, each vendor here has their own subforum. I'm sure the reviews can be posted there. But for those that aren't paid vendors here, then yes, I agree with you that there should be a separate subforum for reviews for them as well.

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 08:35 AM

I think there should be reviews for paid vendors as well. Accountability is good for everybody. I think deleting legitimate negative reviews is bad for the community.

onzedge 03-04-2014 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2718790)
I think there should be reviews for paid vendors as well. Accountability is good for everybody. I think deleting legitimate negative reviews is bad for the community.

:iagree:

kenchan 03-04-2014 09:06 AM

LGSST sucksarse! :mad:

IDZRVIT 03-04-2014 09:10 AM

Reviews are ok if they are legitimate but you normaly only get one side of the story. Poor performance from a product can be an actual fault with a part or operator/installation error. Sometimes a part is actually at fault but it may only be one out of 100000 that were manufactured. That doesn't make all of a company's product junk and hence, trash the company in a review.

Chuck33079 03-04-2014 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 2718894)
Reviews are ok if they are legitimate but you normaly only get one side of the story. Poor performance from a product can be an actual fault with a part or operator/installation error. Sometimes a part is actually at fault but it may only be one out of 100000 that were manufactured. That doesn't make all of a company's product junk and hence, trash the company in a review.

That doesn't mean we whitewash all negative reviews. There are some vendors here who need to do a better job taking care of the community, and removing any negative reviews dosn't help with that.


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