Toyota back in the game with new " z killer?

chief_Roka · 09-22-2009, 03:48 PM

According to ride lust and edmunds.com.

Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4.
These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config.

The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs.
The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well.
TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast?
To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k
Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor...
Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form.
It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure.
What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

theDreamer · 09-22-2009, 03:52 PM

Not unless they can actually do it.
There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still.

bigaudiofanat · 09-22-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Not unless they can actually do it.
There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still.

They talk a lot, if they rely want to get back into the game they should do it. But they should be better looking than the older celicas. I never liked how they looked.

kdo2milger · 09-22-2009, 07:13 PM

and i dont think they can pull it off for under 20 grand either...maybe 25-28...

semtex · 09-22-2009, 04:31 PM

So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense.

JoeD · 09-22-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right?

A 370Z will run away from an STi/Evo. The only reason they seem quick on paper is because of their launching ability, and that only applies if you do not care for the car. Once they are out of first-gear, they are not impressive, and actually quite slow after 100 MPH.

bigaudiofanat · 09-22-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense.

Ya the STI is a rally car the Z is a sports car.

BanningZ · 09-22-2009, 05:32 PM

2012 Toyota/Suburu AE86?

This has been discussed for 3 years now.

Its either the new AE86, Supra or Celica.

It will be under 3000lbs, and most likely reach the US shores in a 200-220hp model under the Subaru badge.

Blown32 · 09-22-2009, 05:39 PM

Pure speculation and rumors at best at this time.So the Toyota killer is only a dream!
The killer right now is the Z!

shabarivas · 09-22-2009, 05:40 PM

I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

BanningZ · 09-22-2009, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

Toyota Subaru Celica — Autoblog

The mythical FT-HS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_FT-HS

An old rendering of the "new" GT4

GingaBreadMan · 09-22-2009, 06:06 PM

I'm not worried about any car that's out or that comes out. I'm on the road a lot, and let me tell you there is nothing that competes with a 370 driven by a "good driver". I almost feel bad for all these cars that are supposed be formidable and they consistently get spanked on.

kdo2milger · 09-22-2009, 06:09 PM

sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

CantZme · 09-22-2009, 06:18 PM

Enjoy,, Yes thats a Supra engine in it,, Thats my boys car from JC Customs at HIN New Hampshire

kannibul · 09-22-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen...

Even the cobalt SS is 21-22K in a desperate market. And that's a I4 Single Turbo FWD.

09-22-2009, 03:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
chief_Roka Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BKLYN,NY/DFW,TX Posts: 166 Drives: '10 370z7at B.C. Rep Power: 16	Toyota back in the game with new " z killer? According to ride lust and edmunds.com. Toyota WILL be producing a RWD CELICA GT AND GT-4. These cars will be 2+2 coupe and 3door hatch config. The N/A GT will get a 2.0ltr 220 hp engine with a weight of 2,866lbs. The GT-4 will be a turbo or twin turbo of the same engine pushing 300-320hp and possibly an 8,000rpm redline. This car will be under under 3klbs as well. TT just changes the high end torque loss issue n this car might be a beast? To make it hurt even more... photos look like it will be a quality ride starting under $20k Looks like even the genesis coupe is gonna need a refresh soon or its bargain potential will fall thru the floor... Lastly, toyota back in the day had a rep for true sports cars in 2+2 form. It might come to the u.s.a. as a toyota or subaru or both but it looks like it may be coming for sure. What u guys think? Comp for the Z or no?

09-22-2009, 03:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	Not unless they can actually do it. There has been talk about this lightweight, quick (200-250HP) car from Toyota/Subaru for awhile now. I heard at one point it was not going to happen and then a few months later it was online still. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

09-22-2009, 07:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 60	and i dont think they can pull it off for under 20 grand either...maybe 25-28... __________________ Project *NISMO*

09-22-2009, 04:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	So, if I'm reading correctly, it'll be a 4-banger, right? One NA, the other TT? I have nothing against 4-cyl. cars per se. But if it wants to be seen as direct competition for the Z, I think they need a 6. Otherwise it'll be considered to be in a different class. Take the STi for example. I think it's even quicker than the Z, right? But I think most people consider the STi and Z to be in different genres, if that makes any sense. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

09-22-2009, 05:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
BanningZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: nowhere Posts: 5,478 Drives: 06' Nismo Frontier Rep Power: 29	2012 Toyota/Suburu AE86? This has been discussed for 3 years now. Its either the new AE86, Supra or Celica. It will be under 3000lbs, and most likely reach the US shores in a 200-220hp model under the Subaru badge. __________________ Become a Premium Member: Click HERE MB 06' Nismo VQ40DE

09-22-2009, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Blown32 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N.J. Posts: 289 Drives: 09 370Z Blk sport 6T Rep Power: 16	Pure speculation and rumors at best at this time.So the Toyota killer is only a dream! The killer right now is the Z!

09-22-2009, 05:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	I would buy the GT4 variant in a heart beat - not going to be the same as a Z but hey... its like a Subie and a Nissan had a baby and called it a toyota

09-22-2009, 06:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	I'm not worried about any car that's out or that comes out. I'm on the road a lot, and let me tell you there is nothing that competes with a 370 driven by a "good driver". I almost feel bad for all these cars that are supposed be formidable and they consistently get spanked on. __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

09-22-2009, 06:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 60	sorry but tt under 20 grand aint gonna happen... __________________ Project *NISMO*

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