Nissan 370Z Forum  

Battery died while garaged

Float charger, not trickle charger. Latter will boil the battery if left on too long.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree21Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-2014, 08:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacCool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,349
Drives: 370Z PW 2014
Rep Power: 16
MacCool has a spectacular aura aboutMacCool has a spectacular aura about
Default

Float charger, not trickle charger. Latter will boil the battery if left on too long.
SouthArk370Z and Felix 808 like this.
MacCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 08:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 131
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 14
cjeezy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan View Post
wow, search button must be broken today...
Very helpful. Because of this post, my car just started.
__________________
2010 Base Sport Package (6MT) | Pearl White | Powercoated OEM Sport Rays | 3M Clear Bra | GTR start button | Ohio legal tint | Nitto Invo tires
cjeezy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 131
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 14
cjeezy is on a distinguished road
Default

My trickle charger has 2, 12V settings...a 2A and a 6A. Which one should I use?
__________________
2010 Base Sport Package (6MT) | Pearl White | Powercoated OEM Sport Rays | 3M Clear Bra | GTR start button | Ohio legal tint | Nitto Invo tires
cjeezy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 08:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjeezy View Post
My trickle charger has 2, 12V settings...a 2A and a 6A. Which one should I use?
Once the battery is charged, used the lowest setting. As MacCool pointed out, a float charger is what you need. The charger you have may be able to regulate at the low current level required - keep a close eye on electrolyte level for a few weeks and see what happens.

Buy a cheap float charger* designed for car batteries and sleep easy at night.

* Not a recommendation for the vendor or product, just one of the first examples I found when I Googled "float charger".
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 131
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 14
cjeezy is on a distinguished road
Default

So should I use the 6A setting until it's charged?
__________________
2010 Base Sport Package (6MT) | Pearl White | Powercoated OEM Sport Rays | 3M Clear Bra | GTR start button | Ohio legal tint | Nitto Invo tires
cjeezy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
cooltoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 13,971
Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT
Rep Power: 243722
cooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjeezy View Post
Very helpful. Because of this post, my car just started.
You don't want to go there.
LMBmikeZ likes this.
cooltoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:19 PM   #22 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 131
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 14
cjeezy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cooltoy View Post
You don't want to go there.
Why not? Because I only have my crappy a** phone to access the internet these days and I wanted a quick answer instead of searching through pages of stuff on my 2 inch screen? Yep, lets go there lol
__________________
2010 Base Sport Package (6MT) | Pearl White | Powercoated OEM Sport Rays | 3M Clear Bra | GTR start button | Ohio legal tint | Nitto Invo tires
cjeezy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Depends on the state of charge now. If you have a few hours, I'd put it on 2A. If you are in a hurry, go with 6A. If the battery needs the extra amps, it'll take it; if it still has some charge, the charger/battery should self-regulate (if everything IRL worked like theory). But many chargers designed for charging a battery cannot properly float a battery.

The more I think about it, the more strongly I want to suggest buying a new float charger that is designed to maintain charge during storage. You can find cheap ones for $10 and better-than-adequate ones can be found for $30-50. As others have mentioned, over-charging the battery can kill it. It can generate enough heat to cause a fire (not that likely with a small charger like you have), and can even release enough hydrogen gas to be an explosion hazard (always possible, so make sure the area around the battery is well-ventilated when charging).
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:22 PM   #24 (permalink)
Elite Member
 
cooltoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 13,971
Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT
Rep Power: 243722
cooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond reputecooltoy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cjeezy View Post
Why not? Because I only have my crappy a** phone to access the internet these days and I wanted a quick answer instead of searching through pages of stuff on my 2 inch screen? Yep, lets go there lol
Not the fact that you did not search, I meant the well intentioned sarcasm.
cooltoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:33 PM   #25 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 131
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 14
cjeezy is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
Depends on the state of charge now. If you have a few hours, I'd put it on 2A. If you are in a hurry, go with 6A. If the battery needs the extra amps, it'll take it; if it still has some charge, the charger/battery should self-regulate (if everything IRL worked like theory). But many chargers designed for charging a battery cannot properly float a battery.

The more I think about it, the more strongly I want to suggest buying a new float charger that is designed to maintain charge during storage. You can find cheap ones for $10 and better-than-adequate ones can be found for $30-50. As others have mentioned, over-charging the battery can kill it. It can generate enough heat to cause a fire (not that likely with a small charger like you have), and can even release enough hydrogen gas to be an explosion hazard (always possible, so make sure the area around the battery is well-ventilated when charging).
Thank you. Sounds like I'll just buy a new charger if they're that inexpensive. I'm in no hurry to charge it, so I'll put it on 2A in the meantime. Should leaving it on this setting overnight do the trick? At least Ill have a new charger for next winter (if I keep the car).
__________________
2010 Base Sport Package (6MT) | Pearl White | Powercoated OEM Sport Rays | 3M Clear Bra | GTR start button | Ohio legal tint | Nitto Invo tires
cjeezy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 09:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

If it's a decent charger, it will float (close enough for overnight) once the battery is charged.

The charger you have may work for storage, but why risk it when the right one is so cheap? But, yeah, the charger you have should work fine for overnight use (unless it's a POS).
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 10:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LMBmikeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,237
Drives: 40th
Rep Power: 10350
LMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I don't understand why people are so scared

just unplug the negative terminal on your car every year or any time you will not be driving it for 4+ weeks

takes 30 seconds to reset the windows everything else.

O wait! you will need to do the clock on the centre bezels, if you have nav that one on screen normally sets itself
__________________
CUSTOM NISMO | BERK | H&R | STANCE | SPL everything | EVO-R | 34 Setrab | WHITELINE | Redline | Carkitcompany | Zspeed | UpRev | SEIBON
LMBmikeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2014, 10:33 PM   #28 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LMBmikeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,237
Drives: 40th
Rep Power: 10350
LMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^^This is also the cheaper route costs you zero$$$ for electricity
TheGreatOne likes this.
__________________
CUSTOM NISMO | BERK | H&R | STANCE | SPL everything | EVO-R | 34 Setrab | WHITELINE | Redline | Carkitcompany | Zspeed | UpRev | SEIBON
LMBmikeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2014, 06:16 AM   #29 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MacCool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,349
Drives: 370Z PW 2014
Rep Power: 16
MacCool has a spectacular aura aboutMacCool has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ View Post
I don't understand why people are so scared

just unplug the negative terminal on your car every year or any time you will not be driving it for 4+ weeks

takes 30 seconds to reset the windows everything else.

O wait! you will need to do the clock on the centre bezels, if you have nav that one on screen normally sets itself
A $40 Battery Tender is simpler. Here in Minnesota, seasonal rolling stock is the norm. I have boats, quads, motorcycles, cars, and mowers on these things all winter. In the spring, I take 'em off and put on the snowmobiles and snowblowers.

A discharged battery (less than 80% charge) will not only short the plates due to sulfation (decreased battery life), it will also freeze. A charged battery won't freeze until about -56 degrees. That's sufficient, even in Minnesota.
MacCool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2014, 07:47 AM   #30 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
LMBmikeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 12,237
Drives: 40th
Rep Power: 10350
LMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond reputeLMBmikeZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
A $40 Battery Tender is simpler. Here in Minnesota, seasonal rolling stock is the norm. I have boats, quads, motorcycles, cars, and mowers on these things all winter. In the spring, I take 'em off and put on the snowmobiles and snowblowers.

A discharged battery (less than 80% charge) will not only short the plates due to sulfation (decreased battery life), it will also freeze. A charged battery won't freeze until about -56 degrees. That's sufficient, even in Minnesota.
mah I've never had a problem and I am in the true great white north CANADA but to each their own

at work a battery not in use is only disconnected and only ever placed on charger if and when it's needed not just because you want to keep it topped up. we can have batteries sit in storage for a couple years pull them out and they are good to go.

I guess I also saved $40 minimum as I didn't have to go buy anything extra
__________________
CUSTOM NISMO | BERK | H&R | STANCE | SPL everything | EVO-R | 34 Setrab | WHITELINE | Redline | Carkitcompany | Zspeed | UpRev | SEIBON
LMBmikeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Syncro Rev died wdkwang Nissan 370Z General Discussions 16 07-15-2013 11:58 PM
Help!!! Speakers ALL died at once DEpointfive0 Audio & Video 15 01-26-2013 10:16 AM
Pioneer NAV Died On ME. NickTurnon Audio & Video 28 10-01-2011 04:08 PM
OMG I just died and went to Heaven. phelan The Lounge (Off Topic) 10 03-31-2011 01:51 AM
Gas gauge help please.... Car died wh1te370z Engine & Drivetrain 25 11-14-2010 02:02 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2