Yeah dammit another oil thread

[DEpointfive0]

Originally Posted by DavidZ370

Which dealer if you don't mind me asking is giving you this hassle.

God forsaken Gardena Nissan, which is Nissan Corporate's preferred dealershit. (They paid off Yelp to take off bad reviews... Bastards...)
And POS Nissan off Rosecrans and the 405 tried to pin their car's prexisting dent on me. So stay away from him and Mike Garcia at any cost (you can read Yelp reviews about him) but the fuckér did put Ester oil for free

[Mt Tam I am]

Pages 9-2 to 9-5 of the 2009 370 handbook.

Engine oil with API Certification Mark*2, *3

*2: For additional information, see later in this paragraph for engine oil and oil filter recommendation.
*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.


1. 2.
API certification mark API service symbol
STI0505
tional Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.
Selecting the correct oil
It is essential to choose the correct grade, quality, and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance, see “CAPACITIES AND RECOMMENDED FUEL/ LUBRICANTS” earlier in this section. NISSAN recommends the use of an energy conserving oil in order to improve fuel economy.
Select only engine oils that meet the American Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.

Good luck

[DEpointfive0]

^^^ problem is that every other year says that too


But I do appreciate it

[ShutokuZ]

Not too sure how current this is, or if even helps, but I found it floating around on the forum.

[critical]

Originally Posted by ShutokuZ

Not too sure how current this is, or if even helps, but I found it floating around on the forum.

I couldn't find anything in the service manual or searching TSBs.

This looks helpful though since you have an 09' unless you bought your oil changes after 9/1/2010. But if you didn't sign with this clause get that ester oil.

Honestly though, forget them and DIY :P trade for parts credit or something.

[VCuomo]

IIRC from way back then, the general consensus was that the original factory fill was not ester oil (Nissan, to my knowledge, has never confirmed what they used at the factory). I believe there was a dealer bulletin from Nissan that stated that if an engine was "noisy" that the dealer should try using the Nissan's Ester Engine Oil and see if that helps to quiet the engine. That bulletin, and the general recommendation that's in the Owner's Manual to use Nissan's Ester Engine Oil is about all I know of from Nissan on the topic.

[Dwight Frye]

I drained the factory fill at about 1250 miles and refilled with the ridiculously expensive Nissan ester oil. I ran that until 5000 miles and then switched to 05W-30 Redline. I had been running the Redline with 5K mile OCI's, and excellent Blackstone reports. I was somewhat concerned with consumption though, using around 1.25 quarts every 5K miles.
At the 35,000 mile mark I switched to Pennzoil Ultra 05W-30, mainly because it was considerably cheaper than Redline and has an excellent reputation. Interestingly enough, I have only had to add less than half a quart in 4000 miles. It may be the oil, it may be that the engine is just settling down. I will do another Blackstone analysis when I change the Ultra at 5000 miles. If comparable to the Redline I may stick with the Ultra, it runs about $55 for 6 quarts delivered on Amazon vs. $69 for 6 quarts of Redline delivered. I use the Mobil 1 # 110 filter which is slightly oversized so I put 5.5 quarts in with an oil & filter change instead of the 5.25 quarts the manual says. I think I paid almost $14 per quart for the Nissan ester oil by the time I paid the 8% sales tax, and won't make that mistake again.

[VCuomo]

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

I drained the factory fill at about 1250 miles and refilled with the ridiculously expensive Nissan ester oil. I ran that until 5000 miles and then switched to 05W-30 Redline. I had been running the Redline with 5K mile OCI's, and excellent Blackstone reports. I was somewhat concerned with consumption though, using around 1.25 quarts every 5K miles.
At the 35,000 mile mark I switched to Pennzoil Ultra 05W-30, mainly because it was considerably cheaper than Redline and has an excellent reputation. Interestingly enough, I have only had to add less than half a quart in 4000 miles. It may be the oil, it may be that the engine is just settling down. I will do another Blackstone analysis when I change the Ultra at 5000 miles. If comparable to the Redline I may stick with the Ultra, it runs about $55 for 6 quarts delivered on Amazon vs. $69 for 6 quarts of Redline delivered. I use the Mobil 1 # 110 filter which is slightly oversized so I put 5.5 quarts in with an oil & filter change instead of the 5.25 quarts the manual says. I think I paid almost $14 per quart for the Nissan ester oil by the time I paid the 8% sales tax, and won't make that mistake again.

You can get Pennzoil Ultra or Platinum at Pep Boys - I'm pretty sure their price is cheaper than what you'll pay Amazon.

Walmart also sells Ultra - $28 for a 5qt jug.

[2011 Nismo#91]

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Pages 9-2 to 9-5 of the 2009 370 handbook.

Engine oil with API Certification Mark*2, *3

*2: For additional information, see later in this paragraph for engine oil and oil filter recommendation.
*3: NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.


1. 2.
API certification mark API service symbol
STI0505
tional Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.
Selecting the correct oil
It is essential to choose the correct grade, quality, and viscosity engine oil to ensure satisfactory engine life and performance, see “CAPACITIES AND RECOMMENDED FUEL/ LUBRICANTS” earlier in this section. NISSAN recommends the use of an energy conserving oil in order to improve fuel economy.
Select only engine oils that meet the American Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE vis- cosity standard. These oils have the API certification mark on the front of the container. Oils which do not have the specified quality label should not be used as they could cause engine damage.

Good luck

This, when Nissan wrote the GT-R's oil recommendation they wrote it differently, they made their warranty dependent on the oil used.

"*1: Mobil 1 (0W-40) (100% synthetic) is the factory fill oil. The VR38 engine with its plasma-sprayed bores was developed using this oil. NISSAN cannot ensure proper engine operation and durability if other 0W-40
synthetic oil is used. If Mobil 1 (0W-40) is not available, Mobil 1 (10W-40) (100% synthetic) may be used; however, some performance loss may be noticed. For additional information, see the following section.
( “ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER RECOMMENDATION” page 9-5)"

"Using an engine oil other than that
specified could adversely affect the
engine. See the 2011 NISSAN GT-R
Warranty Information Booklet for details
and exclusions."

This was never true for the Z so any oil can be used.

[cheshirecat]

Originally Posted by Dwight Frye

I was somewhat concerned with consumption though, using around 1.25 quarts every 5K miles.

just a quick note- this kind of consumption is considered "OK" by Nissan when compared with their oil consumption chart. I would also consider it very common for the VQ37 (and even the 35) to use 1-1.5 quarts every 5k miles.

in other words, no cause for alarm- just make sure you keep it within the indicated acceptable range on the dipstick.

[MarkGideon]

Originally Posted by VCuomo

You can get Pennzoil Ultra or Platinum at Pep Boys - I'm pretty sure their price is cheaper than what you'll pay Amazon.

Walmart also sells Ultra - $28 for a 5qt jug.

My local Wal-Mart stopped carrying the Ultra, so I just ordered 2 of the 5 qt containers from them online and got free shipping. Just a suggestion in case you happen to live somewhere really remote where Wal-Mart hasn't built a store, yet.

[DEpointfive0]

Muahahahahahaha, the bastards called me and told me to bring it in!

Win!!!

[DEpointfive0]

Service manager is pissed. He's going to fire the advisor

[soxfan69]

Just started changing my oil on my Z. Where's the best place to get redline
?

[FPenvy]

Originally Posted by soxfan69

Just started changing my oil on my Z. Where's the best place to get redline
?

Z1 has it the cheapest i've seen plus the sell a oil change kit with the filter and other options.