Headers, CBE, HFCS

Stoney

Yes, I know it may not be worth it, but any gain is better than no gain, and long tubes are illegal. And I just want a full setup!

Chuck33079

Fast intentions will make you a catback with HFCs in it so you can run their long tubes and still be legal. That's a far better hp/$ ratio for the same install cost.

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Stoney

Already have a borla catback, I'm under aged, my mom restricts me on things I can do , she said I can do headers and high flow cats as long as my setup is legal, and she won't let me do weight restriction things.

DEpointfive0

They're illegal. I guarantee it

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Stoney

What ? Shorty headers and hi flow cats? If that's what you're talking about it's not. Already checked with local pd and the states regulations.

Chuck33079

Nope. He's right. It's illegal to take off working cats. It's a federal law. Is it ever enforced? No. But it's not legal.

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Chuck33079

Wow. Then go spend your money on headers that will cost a fortune to install and will make zero power. We've explained it to you over and over. I guess the only thing that will convince you is being out a lot of money and a dyno sheet showing no gains.

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NismoZ70

Now it's starting to all make sense...

Stoney

Yep if I could do whatever I wanted I would get ppe headers

Chuck33079

Then why not wait until you're older and can make your own decisions rather then buying POS headers that are worse than stock because it's all you're allowed to do?

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Stoney

Okay I'll explain. I graduate in late May, I wanted to have all my performance parts ready to go before then, because I'm going to drive 8 hours to texas and have my car tuned at JOTECH, so then I will be done with my performance, another issue is I believe the mechanic I want to install my headers, I'm not sure if he will because he won't do anything illegal, (such as removing cats). And if he doesn't, odds are I'm going to pay 560 for headers and 560 for cats or something, (prices aren't the same), and around 360-480$ for install. (60$ per hour),,,(6-8hours)

Stoney

I also really like louder noises from the exhaust, which I know you said HFCs will have plenty of exhaust note, but will LTH have the same effect?

NismoZ70

Is your mom aware that spending your money on the Stillen headers are a waste of money? If shorty headers are what you are looking for wait a little more time and buy the Z1's. You had mentioned that it worries you having to add 350Z HFC's however many have done it. Check out the massively long thread on it.

I think it's worse to spend money on crappy headers that may be less in price but provide very little performance gains then spending your money on headers that may be a little more expensive but at least will make a difference on your car and would totally be worth the installation costs as well. I would try telling that to your mom.

Take your time and do it right. Don't throw your money away which would be buying the crappy headers.


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Stoney

Okay thanks, but if I can't do ppe LTH I'll look into the z1 headers with 350z HFCs? Right? And I just give them a call and they will help me out with what I want to do? Or how do I go about that?