What's wrong with the 6MT?

!xoible

IMO nothing really compares to the S2k 6MT. that thing is just butter smooth. The Z's clutch will feel a lot heavier (still not as heavy as other cars, i hear mustangs brought up). It's a bit notchy, tricky to get certain shifts to smooth out like 1st-2nd.

but it also depends what you are comparing it to. if you compare it to previous version 350z/G35 you will find it very smooth and nice to drive. if you compare it to the s2k then you just gotta learn to adjust. in that car higher revs are your friend.

Compare it to the GT2 clutch, oh you will love the Z's clutch lol

i am not trying to give you a bad impression on the transmission/clutch, it just has a different more sportier character than the s2k imo. having said that, i prefer the heavier ol' tranny of 350z/g35

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pulpz

Agreed. Honda makes incredibly smooth shifting gear box. one of the reasons why i got my TSX. But the clutch is really light. Not my preference, but does have its advantage for everyday commuting in heavy stop and go traffic.

The 350Z/370Z clutch pedal has a "heavier" feel than most. This was a complaint on the 350Z (check the forums you'll find many threads a and a few how-to's to adjust). And could be deterrent to someone who would prefer to have a manual shift for a daily commuter.

One thing i don't like about the 350/370 Z is the feel of the accelerator pedal. I think its too light. Makes for a mismatched feel between the mechanical resistance of the clutch and accelerator pedal. I think this is why some people have a hard time adjusting to the driving style of the Z and/or feeling comfortable with it at first drive.

I test drove an '09 cayman. The mechanical resistance/feel of the Cayman clutch and accelerator are very comparable and give a balanced feel.

Personally, i liked the feel of the 350 Z clutch. And when i test drove a 370Z was surprised that Nissan retained the heavier clutch considering the complaints.

The 370Z gear box is much improved over the 350Z, has a more exact feel. Not as good as a cayman, but definitely in the ballpark.

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pulpz

Agreed. Honda makes incredibly smooth shifting gear box. one of the reasons why i got my TSX. But the clutch is really light. Not my preference, but does have its advantage for everyday commuting in heavy stop and go traffic.

The 350Z/370Z clutch pedal has a "heavier" feel than most. This was a complaint on the 350Z (check the forums you'll find many threads a and a few how-to's to adjust). And could be deterrent to someone who would prefer to have a manual shift for a daily commuter.

One thing i don't like about the 350/370 Z is the feel of the accelerator pedal. I think its too light. Makes for a mismatched feel between the mechanical resistance of the clutch and accelerator pedal. I think this is why some people have a hard time adjusting to the driving style of the Z and/or feeling comfortable with it at first drive.

I test drove an '09 cayman. The mechanical resistance/feel of the Cayman clutch and accelerator are very comparable and give a balanced feel.

Personally, i liked the feel of the 350 Z clutch. And when i test drove a 370Z was surprised that Nissan retained the heavier clutch considering the complaints.

The 370Z gear box is much improved over the 350Z, has a more exact feel. Not as good as a cayman, but definitely in the ballpark.

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wstar

Agreed on the accelerator. It's drive-by-wire, so obviously it's just an electric actuator rather than a cabled-up traditional accel pedal. But still, they could have put some effort into engineering the thing to feel more traditional. As it is now, it's so light that it makes it hard to make fine adjustmnents at times.

On the same topic, the other thing I dislike about our accelerator pedal is that it's too "digital". If you play with it in neutral at a stop, you'll notice it's not at all smooth like a real pedal. Mechanically it feels smooth, but in terms of its effect on the engine, it adjusts in little notchy steps.

In effect it's like having a 32-way throttle switch (I don't know exactly how many settings there are, 32 is a random-ish guess). You get these 32 throttle settings and that's it, nothing in-between.

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wstar

Adding more thoughts to the above: this is probably why I find it hard to put/keep the accel pedal on the "neutral torque" spot for a given gear/speed at times (as in, just the right amount of gas to neither accelerate nor decelerate). Eventually you settle in anyways, by landing slightly high or low and then letting the car's speed adjust until that neutral torque point is achieved. At low revs you'd hardly notice (like attaining a cruising speed in top gear), but at high revs I notice it a lot (like when you accelerate up a gear hard, then want to hold neutral torque for a few seconds there before engine braking back through the same gear).

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antennahead

I hear ya wstar, this is a minor annoyance to me as well especially "(like when you accelerate up a gear hard, then want to hold neutral torque for a few seconds there before engine braking back through the same gear)". But in the scope of things, it really is minor.

John