Pick one -- 370Z vs Porsche Cayman

Vertigo · 12-27-2013, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng

when you drive a Caveman:

people: oh look... a cheapman porsche

dealer: cool.. gold mine is coming back...

chic: you got my pu$$y cos you drive a porsche

porsche owner: cheap poor guy who can't afford a 911

when you drive a Z:

people: wow.. nice car.. is it a porsche..?

dealer: make him happy thus he will come back.

chic: you got my pu$$y cos you are good.

Z buddies: sup buddy? let's meet

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lol

Mike · 12-27-2013, 04:15 AM

I would have said the Z, but after owning a Cayenne for a year, there is just something different about a porsche. Never thought I would own one, and definitely didn't think I would own a Porsche SUV, but it is hands down the best vehicle I have ever owned as an all around car, and I've owned over 35 vehicles. If the SUV is this good, I can only imagine how nice living with their sports cars would be.

Of course, if I did have a cayman, I probably wouldn't have gutted and turned it into a racecar like I did my Z. And, since I have a racecar, I can't really justify getting another sports car, becuase I would just want to track it, and what would be the point?

Firebase99 · 12-27-2013, 06:30 AM

Didnt Zgirl get a used Cayman S? Shed be the one to ask. But she has both the 370 and Porsche.

mts · 12-27-2013, 07:32 AM

I've owned both and both are really nice cars. If money isn't a big concern I believe the Cayman S is the better car on almost every count. But, it isn't better by a lot and the money difference can be significant. It isn't just the cost of entry (ie an older used Cayman S entry cost is about the same as a newer Z), but rather running costs IF something goes wrong. A Cayman crate motor is about $15k, a replacement PDK tranny is about $18k. Heck the specific transaxle fluid for a Cayman is about $60/qt. I had a motor dynamite on me and that isn't a fun check to write I can tell you.

I've been lucky enough to own multiple Porsches and I don't believe there is anything like them out there. The real test isn't the initial drive in my opinion, but after you've driven one regularly for a week or two and then you get back into something else.....wow you miss the Porsche. This includes the Cayenne.....an ugly SOB in my opinion, but mine was probably the best all around daily driver I've owned.

I think of the Z as 85-90% of the car as the Cayman S for 50% of the cost or less over time. For most, the Z just makes more sense and it is a heck of a nice car in its own right.

Firebase99 · 12-27-2013, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mts

I've owned both and both are really nice cars. If money isn't a big concern I believe the Cayman S is the better car on almost every count. But, it isn't better by a lot and the money difference can be significant. It isn't just the cost of entry (ie an older used Cayman S entry cost is about the same as a newer Z), but rather running costs IF something goes wrong. A Cayman crate motor is about $15k, a replacement PDK tranny is about $18k. Heck the specific transaxle fluid for a Cayman is about $60/qt. I had a motor dynamite on me and that isn't a fun check to write I can tell you.

I've been lucky enough to own multiple Porsches and I don't believe there is anything like them out there. The real test isn't the initial drive in my opinion, but after you've driven one regularly for a week or two and then you get back into something else.....wow you miss the Porsche. This includes the Cayenne.....an ugly SOB in my opinion, but mine was probably the best all around daily driver I've owned.

I think of the Z as 85-90% of the car as the Cayman S for 50% of the cost or less over time. For most, the Z just makes more sense and it is a heck of a nice car in its own right.

Very well stated. Pretty much sums it up. Is that a 993 you got there?

mab864 · 12-27-2013, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mts

I've owned both and both are really nice cars. If money isn't a big concern I believe the Cayman S is the better car on almost every count. But, it isn't better by a lot and the money difference can be significant.

I think of the Z as 85-90% of the car as the Cayman S for 50% of the cost or less over time. For most, the Z just makes more sense and it is a heck of a nice car in its own right.

Well said mts. I believe you hit the nail on the head. Initial costs and long term costs on the Cayman S would certainly be higher even though most would concur that the Porsche is overall a better performing car. Maintenance costs and dealer location were also a concern for me. I live in a little rural town and the closest Porsche dealer is about 80 miles from my house. It would be an all day deal just having the oil changed. I have 3 Nissan dealerships with 50 miles of my house and the closest is 12 miles away. That's a lot easier (and cheaper) to deal with. And I can change the oil on the Z myself.

XiP · 12-27-2013, 09:03 AM

Test drive both and get the one you like more

kfull · 12-27-2013, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiP

Test drive both and get the one you like more

you'll never really know which one you like more until you actually test drive them. You can do all the research in the world online but experiencing cars in person is a whole different experience.

Shadezz · 12-27-2013, 09:32 AM

Like we say in the car business..."the feel of the wheel makes the deal". Drive the cars..

EazyD · 12-27-2013, 11:33 AM

The guy who sold my 370Z to me sold it so he could get the next gen. Porsche CS since "it has a performance gain and is more suited to" his image as a mid 40s guy.

luigi90210 · 12-27-2013, 06:05 PM

I choose nismo 370z

You almost never see them around and it will give a lot of Porsche drivers a run for their money in the twisties. That and I'm 20, the only Porsche I can afford is the boxer and those are slow POS

RonRizz · 12-27-2013, 06:13 PM

Notice that I'm not replying in a Porsche forum !!!!

axmea? · 12-27-2013, 08:51 PM

You're in a Z forum. Results are objectively biased. Buy the Z. Ask the same question on Cayman forum, I know what the results will be. Ask them how much to do an oil change, do an exhaust mod, an ECU upgrade, to lower the car, etc and compare to the Z.

JWillis72 · 12-27-2013, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea?

You're in a Z forum. Results are objectively biased. Buy the Z. Ask the same question on Cayman forum, I know what the results will be. Ask them how much to do an oil change, do an exhaust mod, an ECU upgrade, to lower the car, etc and compare to the Z.

This is the answer for me! I could buy a Cayman but couldn't afford to have fun with it.

edub370 · 12-28-2013, 11:46 PM

P Car....

12-27-2013, 04:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	I would have said the Z, but after owning a Cayenne for a year, there is just something different about a porsche. Never thought I would own one, and definitely didn't think I would own a Porsche SUV, but it is hands down the best vehicle I have ever owned as an all around car, and I've owned over 35 vehicles. If the SUV is this good, I can only imagine how nice living with their sports cars would be. Of course, if I did have a cayman, I probably wouldn't have gutted and turned it into a racecar like I did my Z. And, since I have a racecar, I can't really justify getting another sports car, becuase I would just want to track it, and what would be the point? __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

12-27-2013, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
mts Base Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ky Posts: 102 Drives: Porsche 911 Rep Power: 13	I've owned both and both are really nice cars. If money isn't a big concern I believe the Cayman S is the better car on almost every count. But, it isn't better by a lot and the money difference can be significant. It isn't just the cost of entry (ie an older used Cayman S entry cost is about the same as a newer Z), but rather running costs IF something goes wrong. A Cayman crate motor is about $15k, a replacement PDK tranny is about $18k. Heck the specific transaxle fluid for a Cayman is about $60/qt. I had a motor dynamite on me and that isn't a fun check to write I can tell you. I've been lucky enough to own multiple Porsches and I don't believe there is anything like them out there. The real test isn't the initial drive in my opinion, but after you've driven one regularly for a week or two and then you get back into something else.....wow you miss the Porsche. This includes the Cayenne.....an ugly SOB in my opinion, but mine was probably the best all around daily driver I've owned. I think of the Z as 85-90% of the car as the Cayman S for 50% of the cost or less over time. For most, the Z just makes more sense and it is a heck of a nice car in its own right. Mike, DLSTR, SMA334 and 2 others like this. Last edited by mts; 12-27-2013 at 07:36 AM.

12-27-2013, 09:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 534	Test drive both and get the one you like more onzedge likes this. __________________ I <3 Frost!!!

12-27-2013, 09:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
Shadezz Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado Age: 43 Posts: 896 Drives: 2012 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	Like we say in the car business..."the feel of the wheel makes the deal". Drive the cars.. 1st and SterlingDrive like this. __________________ 2012 370Z BLACK EDITION/ FLT BLK Rays / 5% 3M Tint / DW's / Z1 SS & 2 Piece Rotors Nismo S-Tune OEM / Beluga CBE & Y-PIPE / DDX370 / GTR Start .4 Fluid / NST Blue Kit

12-27-2013, 11:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
EazyD A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,211 Drives: 2010 6MT Sport pkg. Rep Power: 26	The guy who sold my 370Z to me sold it so he could get the next gen. Porsche CS since "it has a performance gain and is more suited to" his image as a mid 40s guy. __________________ Pearl White 2010 370Z Sport, Stillen CBE, tint, K&N drop-in filters, GT-R start button, Kenwood DNX-6980 with backup cam, LED bulbs, Raceseng shift knob.

12-27-2013, 06:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14034	Didnt Zgirl get a used Cayman S? Shed be the one to ask. But she has both the 370 and Porsche.

12-27-2013, 06:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
luigi90210 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,103 Drives: Classified Rep Power: 16	I choose nismo 370z You almost never see them around and it will give a lot of Porsche drivers a run for their money in the twisties. That and I'm 20, the only Porsche I can afford is the boxer and those are slow POS __________________ SOLD 370z New Car:classified DD:2011 Mini Cooper S stock

12-27-2013, 06:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6775	Notice that I'm not replying in a Porsche forum !!!! __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

12-27-2013, 08:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,243 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53242	You're in a Z forum. Results are objectively biased. Buy the Z. Ask the same question on Cayman forum, I know what the results will be. Ask them how much to do an oil change, do an exhaust mod, an ECU upgrade, to lower the car, etc and compare to the Z. BeemaaZ likes this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

12-28-2013, 11:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	P Car.... __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

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