Broken Z ): pics inside!

ElVee

Glad you walked away from that accident, and sorry about the damage. (Glad for the banning of the troll as well; I can't express how angry seeing his posts in this thread made me.)

I'm curious what the insurance companies will say about this. If the light was yellow-turning-red before you moved to complete your turn, it's interesting she hit the back corner of your car. That might suggest she ran the red light or was darn close to doing so. It'd be interesting to see any skid marks or even *any* application of brakes, or an estimation on impact damage vs speed limit of the area.

Still, the rules have to have a line somewhere, the typically they say left-turn must yield to oncoming lawful traffic. And while "point of no return" suggests a vehicle needs to stop on the approaching yellow to be safe, the real cut off is whether they entered the intersection when it was red or still yellow.

Honestly, when in doubt, she should have been able to stop and not push it. I don't see any rain or snow in your location to change factors at all. Hopefully whatever she was hurrying for was worth more than the trouble of waiting 60 seconds for the next green light.

This is one of those cases that makes me want a dashcam, but of course, it needs to have a large enough angle to include lights overhead/side.