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Old 12-11-2013, 10:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What is the fastest naturally asperated 370z to this day? just curious.. currently just got a job and saving money for modifications. only 17 so please do not bash on the just getting a job.
Do not make the 370Z your first car. It is too advanced for a first car owner. Buy another less powerful car and bounce it off a few things before you commit to the 370. After one year of driving another car rethink the 370.

If you were buying a motorcycle I'd suggest a smaller bike before a big one. Why? You will never learn certain subtleties where power compensates for mistakes.

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Do not make the 370Z your first car. It is too advanced for a first car owner. Buy another less powerful car and bounce it off a few things before you commit to the 370. After one year of driving another car rethink the 370.

If you were buying a motorcycle I'd suggest a smaller bike before a big one. Why? You will never learn certain subtleties where power compensates for mistakes.

Good luck.
He's already got it. We're now trying to talk him out of adding more power to it.
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He's already got it. We're now trying to talk him out of adding more power to it.
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Now that he owns the car. Do not modify it yet. Get some professional instruction. This modification will stay with you forever. Auto cross might be a consideration too. Become an advanced driver and then add power.


AutoX is a great cheap starting point, and you can do it a lot. All it costs is brakes and tires, and you can go every month. Hands down the best money I've ever spent was a Skip Barber Racing School course, but those cost several grand.
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When I started driving , the thing I always heard is " Its not the car, its the driver "

Guys in Little Miatas that have to spool up the engines to keep up with much faster cars normally have better lines, keep the car securely planted on the ground and know how to drive better than guys with fast cars.

I see it all the time. A dam Miata on everyones *** because the guy can drive. And then a guy in a GTR who holds everyone up in the chicanes and S's and then stomps on it in the straight away.

Learn to drive and about the car characteristics.
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When I started driving , the thing I always heard is " Its not the car, its the driver "

Guys in Little Miatas that have to spool up the engines to keep up with much faster cars normally have better lines, keep the car securely planted on the ground and know how to drive better than guys with fast cars.

I see it all the time. A dam Miata on everyones *** because the guy can drive. And then a guy in a GTR who holds everyone up in the chicanes and S's and then stomps on it in the straight away.

Learn to drive and about the car characteristics.
I got to do a ride along at a NASA open track day at PIR one day and it was in a Miata. We were holding our own and better on the infield, but when we got back onto turn 3 we were destroyed by this Viper. ...and everything else that was behind us.
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@ op -- if you do end up acquiring the z, I feel that considering your young age, the safest mod for you to consider would be the washer mod. I don't know what the hp gains are but from what I have heard they seem to be quite impressive.
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@ op -- if you do end up acquiring the z, I feel that considering your young age, the safest mod for you to consider would be the washer mod. I don't know what the hp gains are but from what I have heard they seem to be quite impressive.
1) You didn't read the thread.
2) Don't do the washer mod.. And I am the king of going cheap. P.S there aren't hp gains. Who do you hear from?
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When I started driving , the thing I always heard is " Its not the car, its the driver "

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I see it all the time. A dam Miata on everyones *** because the guy can drive. And then a guy in a GTR who holds everyone up in the chicanes and S's and then stomps on it in the straight away.

Learn to drive and about the car characteristics.
My instructor at Sebring DESTROYS 911's, ZO6's, M's, AMG's, Astons in my 370. Its 98% driver. Well in this case its 100%
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You let your instructor drive your car? I don't think I would be ok with that. There is nothing like track time to teach you can't buy being fast around the track.
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1) You didn't read the thread.
2) Don't do the washer mod.. And I am the king of going cheap. P.S there aren't hp gains. Who do you hear from?
Of course I read the thread, I was just having fun. My apologies for you actually believing something so humorously ridiculous :-)
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I knew I smelled something fishy.. I just can't seem to sift thru the fakes anymore. Theres too many threads on the damn washers haha.
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340whp or so N/A..
That sounds about right as I'm N/A and dyno'd at 310 wheel HP after getting an upRev and Fast Intensions exhaust.
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