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wdkwang 11-30-2013 07:29 PM

Why should we change the VLSD fluid?
 
The actual locking mechanism of the VLSD is a fluid sealed inside (and can only be accessed when taken apart), which gets hot very quickly and stops working after about 10 minutes of drifting in my experience. At that point, it acts like an open-diff and needs some time to cool off. It is said that changing the fluid out of the pumpkin would not effect the locking efficiency of the VLSD. I found this to be true in my experience, as well, when i changed the OEM fluid around 15k miles to Redline. No difference.
So to sum it up, if changing the diff fluid makes no difference in performance, why are we doing it at all in the first place?

kenchan 11-30-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 2589420)
The actual locking mechanism of the VLSD is a fluid sealed inside (and can only be accessed when taken apart), which gets hot very quickly and stops working after about 10 minutes of drifting in my experience. At that point, it acts like an open-diff and needs some time to cool off. It is said that changing the fluid out of the pumpkin would not effect the locking efficiency of the VLSD. I found this to be true in my experience, as well, when i changed the OEM fluid around 15k miles to Redline. No difference.
So to sum it up, if changing the diff fluid makes no difference in performance, why are we doing it at all in the first place?


yah, why bother changing motor oil, tranny oil, blinker oil, etc.

onzedge 11-30-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2589424)
yah, why bother changing motor oil, tranny oil, blinker oil, etc.

I disagree with you, Mr. KenInfiniteWisdomChan.

I change my blinker oil every 3 months. It's false economy not to do so. Engine, Trans, etc. -- I do not bother.

DR_ 11-30-2013 08:07 PM

I had the diff start to bind up with the oem diff fluid after hard track session. Once I put in Redline it never happened again. The diff would still slip more and more throughout a session but at least it didn't bind. Even thought the VLSD is sealed the diff fluid must help in the cooling.

onzedge 11-30-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2589444)
I had the diff start to bind up with the oem diff fluid after hard track session. Once I put in Redline it never happened again. The diff would still slip more and more throughout a session but at least it didn't bind. Even thought the VLSD is sealed the diff fluid must help in the cooling.

Redline is the way to go. :tup:

TerribleONE 11-30-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2589444)
I had the diff start to bind up with the oem diff fluid after hard track session. Once I put in Redline it never happened again. The diff would still slip more and more throughout a session but at least it didn't bind. Even thought the VLSD is sealed the diff fluid must help in the cooling.

:iagree: Also your blinker fluid is definitely the most important maintenance item on your car

onzedge 11-30-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2589466)
:iagree: Also your blinker fluid is definitely the most important maintenance item on your car

Truth.

SouthArk370Z 11-30-2013 08:39 PM

If cooling of the VLSD were the only function of the diff fluid then, yeah, it wouldn't make much sense to change it often. Since the diff fluid's main function is to lube the gears and all fluids break down (much faster at higher temps), it's a good idea to change it out every now and then. If you are getting the VLSD/diff that hot on a regular basis, it would be a good idea to change the diff fluid quite often.

A cooler might be a good idea.

kenchan 11-30-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 2589431)
I disagree with you, Mr. KenInfiniteWisdomChan.

I change my blinker oil every 3 months. It's false economy not to do so. Engine, Trans, etc. -- I do not bother.

:tup: okay, i should change my blinker oil more often. thanks!!

onzedge 11-30-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2589504)
:tup: okay, i should change my blinker oil more often. thanks!!

I am here to help.

Red__Zed 11-30-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 2589420)
The actual locking mechanism of the VLSD is a fluid sealed inside (and can only be accessed when taken apart), which gets hot very quickly and stops working after about 10 minutes of drifting in my experience. At that point, it acts like an open-diff and needs some time to cool off. It is said that changing the fluid out of the pumpkin would not effect the locking efficiency of the VLSD. I found this to be true in my experience, as well, when i changed the OEM fluid around 15k miles to Redline. No difference.
So to sum it up, if changing the diff fluid makes no difference in performance, why are we doing it at all in the first place?

You should skip changing your engine oil as well.

onzedge 11-30-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2589511)
You should skip changing your engine oil as well.

We have already established that... :tup:

karotZ 11-30-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdkwang (Post 2589420)
The actual locking mechanism of the VLSD is a fluid sealed inside (and can only be accessed when taken apart), which gets hot very quickly and stops working after about 10 minutes of drifting in my experience. At that point, it acts like an open-diff and needs some time to cool off. It is said that changing the fluid out of the pumpkin would not effect the locking efficiency of the VLSD. I found this to be true in my experience, as well, when i changed the OEM fluid around 15k miles to Redline. No difference.
So to sum it up, if changing the diff fluid makes no difference in performance, why are we doing it at all in the first place?

It's to ensure functionality, removing the oil ensures that those small shavings don't collect. Upgrading the fluid is just to have peace of mind and longevitity of the pumpkin's use. Otherwise, if you actually do drifting, you are better off with a real LSD. Any 1.5 is WAY better than our stock ones. And, 1.5 is not enough, you'll need an oil diff cooler if your taking drifting seriously. :tiphat: It's like your saying, why clean the toilet if your just gonna sh*t back on it later. lol

kfull 11-30-2013 09:31 PM

engine oil is overrated....just use crisco

Rusty 11-30-2013 10:33 PM

I wait until my blinker fluid runs dry. Then refill it. That way, I know that I have fresh fluid through out the blinker system. :tup:


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