370z vs. 300zx twin turbo

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Mag350Z

One point I think worth making is that when the 300ZX TT came out, it was outperforming the Corvette and most other cars on the market.
The 350Z and 370Z are both crushed performance wise by the Corvette.
Relative to the other cars on the market at its time, I think the 300ZX TT was a superior car than either the 350Z or 370Z is relative to today's performance cars.

tranceformer

Very good points but the 300zx TT cost ~$30k back in 1990. Nissan had more money to put into the development of the 300zx TT, IMO.

Mag350Z

I agree with you. I was thinking to myself how is it that 20 years after the 300ZX TT came out the 370Z makes only 32 HP more than 300ZX TT and actually less torque. Nissan likely had less resources available in developing the 350 and 370 relative to the 300ZX TT.

The 300ZX TT was in a class by itself in 1990. It completely blew away the 1984-1989 300ZX, in addition to any car near its price.
While the 370Z is an excellent car, it does not dominate the competion the way the 300ZX TT did at its time.

In my mind the GTR is the modern day 300ZX TT, although obviously at a much higher cost.

FricFrac

Exactly and in today's $$ the 300ZX is about $45K for the base TT compared to $30K for the base 370Z. Its simply a matter of making a car for the market - the 300ZX was an outstanding AND expensive sports car - 50% more in todays $$ than the 370Z.

If the market was booming you might see a 370ZTT but its not so its unlikely you'll see a 450HP TT factory car (the 280ZXT was a 24% increase in power from N/A, 300ZXT Z31 was a 25% increase and the Z32 was a 34% increase - 34% on the VQ370HR would be 448 HP ) Look how few 370Zs have sold even being rated as one of the best sports car values on the market. Can you imagine how few of the TT's would sell in this market?

I'd love to compare the two cars but they are from different circumstances. The Z32 is an awesome car though.... one day if I can find one that isn't riced out, rotten or ragged on.....

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FuszNissan

Well said.

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Its been a long time since my 300ZXTT was stock, but I think the 370Z would definitely take it stock. Not so much once even a few mods are done. I doubt my 05 350Z would have beaten a stock 300ZXTT though.

The biggest thing to me about the 300ZXTT is it has a different feel from all the other Z cars I have owned (82 280ZX, 86 300ZX, 05 350Z & 09 370Z) in all of those cars you knew you were driving a Z just from the familiar look/feel of them all. the three guages on the center dash being a small example of that. the engine noise, the shifters, etc. The 300ZXTT is unique in its driving experience among Z's IMO.

I have had my 300ZXTT for about 13 years now, and its still my favorite Z. Its a blast to drive, fast as hell and just wants to go. The 370Z is a close second to me, better than all the others I have owned. The quality of the build of the 300ZXTT is a big plus for a car you may want to hang onto indefinitely. Every little thing still works in a 1991 car.

it is a great, unique Z in the lineup of great Z cars.

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tranceformer

the rear steer assembly still works? i thought that feature was a bit overkill.

NIZMOZ

370z would easily beat a stock Z32 TT. My 07 350Z with the HR did with a few members in the club just couldn't keep up with it and on the track.

But once the mods go, the TT will spank any Z's butt. :P

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Mercennarius

In 1990 it did, by 1996 it was near $50,000. My brothers old 1995 300ZX was $43,000, and it was a non turbo. Twin turbos were closer to $46,000 back then. The Z32 was more on par with todays R35 GT-R when it came out.
No, its not that they had more money to put into R&D. Back then Nissan decided they wanted to bring the Z car up to bargain supercar levels, the Z had continually gotten more expensive/nicer/powerful/faster with each generation from the 240Z-300ZX. By the mid 1990s sports car sales were down, SUV sales were up, the yen to dollar ratio was hurting the Japanese, and it seemed the world wasnt ready for Japanese supercars so the 300ZX/Supra/RX-7/3000GT VR4 all slowly died off.

The 350Z/370Z are supposed to be more of a reincarnation of the original 240Z. Affordable, fun, reliable, sports cars. Its doubtful we will see the Z car rise to near supercar levels again like we did in the early 1990s, especially since Nissan has brought the GTR up to that spot.

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