SouthArk's Suggestions For Effective Posting (Grammar/Spelling Counts)

4r3s · 11-13-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Kidding aside, I appreciate your thoughtful write-up. I consider these rules axiomatic and wish other folks did as well.

Is the need to say all this really an indicator that the used 370s have come down in price enough that the younger generations are able to afford them now and it has led to an influx of idiots on the forum? Just speculating.

onzedge · 11-13-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

Is the need to say all this really an indicator that the used 370s have come down in price enough that the younger generations are able to afford them now and it has led to an influx of idiots on the forum? Just speculating.

You might be onto something.

Chuck33079 · 11-13-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

You might be onto something.

Yeah, now that an 09 is a $2ok car, it's gotten worse. In another few years when it's a $10k car and high school students can buy them, this place will be a barren wasteland of stupidity, stretched tires and hellaflush.

;

Was that the right way to use a semicolon?

SouthArk370Z · 11-13-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

Is the need to say all this really an indicator that the used 370s have come down in price enough that the younger generations are able to afford them now and it has led to an influx of idiots on the forum? Just speculating.

While younger people do seem to be more likely to be poor writers (probably because they don't yet realize how important effective communication is, not because they can't write), I think The Internet has made poor writers (and good ones, too) of all ages more visible. Before online access became ubiquitous, few poor writers were able to get "published." Nowadays, anybody with access to a computer can post something that the whole world can read.

Chuck33079 · 11-13-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

While younger people do seem to be more likely to be poor writers (probably because they don't yet realize how important effective communication is, not because they can't write), I think The Internet has made poor writers (and good ones, too) of all ages more visible. Before online access became ubiquitous, few poor writers were able to get "published." Nowadays, anybody with access to a computer can post something that the whole world can read.

My buddy's HS English teacher GF would disagree with you.

SouthArk370Z · 11-13-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

My buddy's HS English teacher GF would disagree with you.

I have a niece that just started teaching Journalism at the local high school. I'll have to ask her about this. Her POV may be different - I'm assuming that Journalism students would be more concerned about using proper English than the average student. I'm curious to see what she has to say about it.

Personally, I don't think things have changed that much over the years. Like most old farts, I like to reminisce about The Good Ole Days and bemoan the state of society and kids today but there were a lot of "barely literates" back when I was a kid. I think they are just more noticeable now.

I was lucky to be raised by parents that placed a very high value on education and I didn't have much choice but to learn how to write passable English. All too often, parents just don't take the time/effort to instill a passion to learn in their kids. Thanks, Mom and Dad, for encouraging me to learn all I could and kicking my a$$ when it needed it.

Chuck33079 · 11-13-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

I have a niece that just started teaching Journalism at the local high school. I'll have to ask her about this. Her POV may be different - I'm assuming that Journalism students would be more concerned about using proper English than the average student. I'm curious to see what she has to say about it.

Well, modern journalism has **** the bed too. Have you read some of the news "articles" available on the internet?

I think writing skills are underemphasized in schools these days since it's all about passing the standardized tests so the school can get funded.

SouthArk370Z · 11-13-2013, 12:11 PM

Just had lunch with my Dad and he says the niece is complaining about how many of the students can't write. I thanked him for making me get a good education.

onzedge · 11-13-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Just had lunch with my Dad and he says the niece is complaining about how many of the students can't write. I thanked him for making me get a good education.

Chuck33079 · 11-13-2013, 12:15 PM

Being able to write well has been very helpful my entire life. I don't understand why it's not emphasized more today. Hell, I made a lot of money in college writing other people's papers.

waaaasabi · 11-13-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Just had lunch with my Dad and he says the niece is complaining about how many of the students can't write. I thanked him for making me get a good education.

Effective writing is a lot more difficult than people think; it requires forethought, a robust grasp on the tools of language, and an understanding of the socio-cultural norms of the audience. A good education may help in some facets of a person's writing ability, but at the higher education levels (college and above), where specialization is prominent, I don't think there's much correlation between education and writing ability. I went to an Ivy League school (not a backdoor humblebrag, I swear) with some of the brightest people in the country, and many of them couldn't write for sh*t.

As for hoping for any sort of writing standards on any forum, online or otherwise, it's a futile exercise. As long as someone can get their point across somewhat well, then they're golden in my book.

Magic Bus · 11-13-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

Is the need to say all this really an indicator that the used 370s have come down in price enough that the younger generations are able to afford them now and it has led to an influx of idiots on the forum? Just speculating.

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, now that an 09 is a $2ok car, it's gotten worse. In another few years when it's a $10k car and high school students can buy them, this place will be a barren wasteland of stupidity, stretched tires and hellaflush.

Exactly why we need to praise and not bash the BRZ/FRS twins. Let's keep the illiterate plus monetarily less fortunate people on the other forums.

I enjoy reading many of the insightful, humorous posts on this forum and would dearly miss it, if that were to change.

dAvenue · 11-13-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I think writing skills are underemphasized in schools these days since it's all about passing the standardized tests so the school can get funded.

my wife is a high school math teacher and tells me all about it. their #1 complaint is prepping students for State tests. it takes most of their time away from teaching fundamentals. good material is skipped over because it's not on the State's curriculum.

MadMan · 11-15-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

Before online access became ubiquitous, few poor writers were able to get "published." .

Triple word score for using "ubiquitous" in a sentence.

onzedge · 11-15-2013, 11:10 AM

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Triple word score for using "ubiquitous" in a sentence.

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