Goodbye All
 

Well, after 2 months of ownership I decided today to go back to the Vette.

I really feel the Z is a great value and a very shrp car, but dynamically it just doesn't have the "oomph" of a Vette or a Porsche.

I got out pretty unscathed financially so I'm happy.

Got a great deal on an '09 Vette (black/black, Coupe, Z51, Glass Roof, 4lt, NAV, etc...).

Take care.

Good luck mate!

Good luck, drive safe!

I looked at a brand new 2008 C6 while shopping for the Z, while it has the performance numbers I just couldn't handle the interior, or the condensation in both headlights. I loved the color though, JSB.

Good luck and enjoy the new, new car!

Traded mine in because I couldn't stand the interior, but I respect that different people are looking for different things out of cars.

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Love the license plate.

I've thought about the Corvette for a long time, but i just think i like the 370Z better. Corvettes are everywhere, but i dont hardly ever see a 350Z, let a lone a 370Z. i like the fact that i'll have a car that nobody else really has.

Mike

Can you give some more details on the financial aspect, I am interested how well the 370z held after only a few months off the showroom.

Thanks

Nick

different ppl = different tastes

so long now, bye

sad to hear, good luck! But i dun care what vette you offer this guy, Im ADDICTED to my Z!

I and a couple other folks were just talking about this at a car show last week. We all arrived at independent conclusions that the Vette just looks "tired". Yes there may be some new colors and interior changes but......its almost as if GM has a cookie-cutter "design" formula for the Vette and they are very comfortable with repeating it year after year after year.....

We also came to the conclusion that the Ford Mustang is entering down this same "tired" design road as well.

They were supposed to have a change for (going off old memory) 2010-ish, but I read something that they will squeeze a few more years out of the current design due to the economy.

Good luck with your new ride....I just hope that...

1) the door has no paint defects
2) the splash guards don't have a gap
3) the body panels are not misaligned
4) the dealership knows how to lift the car
5) the tail pipes are centered in the cutouts
6) the wheels don't have a scuff mark..

:ugh2:


I kid :)

That's because GM has this habit of never wanting to pay for the retooling of their plants when a design change has been proposed. This is business as usual for GM.

Great choice. Can't go wrong with an '08+ C6. :tup:

One question, though...any reason you went with a fully-loaded Z51 instead of a 1LZ Z06 for not much more?

I really LIKE the new Grand Sport...my dream car has always been a Vette but I also love the Z..as it is sort of like the Japanese Vette...I dont mean any disrespect to 370z owners...

Every 3 miles down the highway you pass by a vette.

Good luck.

Sold my '08 to buy the Z. I won't be going back. Good luck!

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Congratulations, you finally have the PERFECT car!

Tired doesn't even come close... My dad has one, I remember after they changed the body style in what was it 98, I loved them , thought the lines where great! but... 11yrs has pasted since then.. 11 yrs... :ugh2:

Ya,ya I know they changed the headlights and gave it a lil bit for a stretched look.. but its the same sh*t

Enjoy the vette. I ruled the Vette out as an option after driving my pals Z06. I always THOUGHT the Vette would be my dream car as my father had two, but as it turns out the blue 240Z sitting in my neighbors driveway when I was only 3 is what really ended up be my dream car (not the 240 per say, just the Z car).

Have fun with your Vette!

Good Luck!

traitor, no i'm just kidding. good luck with your new ride.congrats

Not quite.

All this talk about "tired" design...the Z has essentially been the same since '03. The C6 went through a significant re-design in '05, much more so than the Z34 over the Z33.

????? The 370Z is completely different in almost every aspect compared to the 350Z.....


Anyhow good luck with your new Vette. Personally if I was going into that territory I'd be getting a Z06. But then again if I had any inkling that way I WOULD have bought a Z06.... but the Z really is my dream car.

The Corvette is one of the only American cars I like.

Corvette is pure american muscle...but I like the import definition of the Z. Its all taste...best of luck!

Thank you all for the good wishes.

Even the few sarcastic comments were taken in stride.

I chose the coupe over the Z06 for 2 reasons:

1. I had a Z06 in 2007. Very difficult car for daily driving. The power and the snappy handling are a bit over the top for DD duty.
2. I actually prefer the feel of the base coupe over the Z06

Anyway, I've had a lot of great cars and I always go back to the Vette and 911.

For those saying the Vette is stale or dated, I think you are crazy. Vettes, like Zs and Porsches etc..., evolve slowly. These cars have loyal fan bases that don't want drastic change. 911s have looked the same for 40 years for g-d's sake.

I also agree that interior is the weak point for the Vette. The thing is that when you mash the go pedal, you just go!!! It makes you forget the interior .

traitor!!!

BTW, I do wish the Vette had the seats from the Z. The seats really are the weak point.

But, from a performance perspective, the Vette is a big step up from the Z. Not even a race.

The Z does have better steering feel (especially with the Sport package), but the Vette just has much higher limits, even with its dated rear suspension setup.

I think that is evident from the price differential.

Again, I'm a huge fan of the Z, amazing what Nissan was able to do at this price point. Just different strokes for different folks.

Also, the new GranSport trim will be great, but I just don't think the $10k premium is worth the wide body and Z06 brakes. I prefer the base coupe looks over the Z06.

To answer the pricing question, my Z listed for $41.8k and the real value today was between $30-$32k. Because of my problems and dealer damaging the car (plus my friendship with the GM) we were able to get substantially higher dollars. I only lost $1100 of wwhat I actually paid. I can live with that.

Again, I want to thank everyone on this board. Very well informed and thoughtful folks.

Thanks

When I was 11, I saw the StingRay and fell in love with it.......Corvettes rock! Have fun with it.


P.S.,

You mentioned about 911's. Perhaps, you should do what I did---I kept my 911s with my Z. :) cheers and, again, good luck.

I learned how to drive stick on a 454 'Vette ... in 1972. Just about the only vehicle that has evolved slower, from an outside appearance, is a diesel-electric locomotive.

To me the Vette shows almost everything that's wrong with General Motors Corporation. The word is ... "ossify". It's one thing to stick to tradition, but if we all wanted stuff from our earlier years we'd probably be driving Checkers Marathons.

I've always loved the Vette too, especially the split rear-window 1962. But to buy one in 2009 is to tell this giant company it doesn't HAVE to evolve. To me there is just no reason in the universe they shouldn't have this Volt out on the street already -- two weeks after announcing it.

I am not talking about "tired" in the sense of immediately adjacent model styles to the next. I am talking about overall in the entire history of the car itself. When one looks at a Vette no matter what ancestral generation one does not have a doubt it is a Vette. GM's goal was to brand the look.

I don't believe Nissan has necessarily had that in mind to the same extent as GM has as the Z has really gone through some "look" changes over the years. The design differences have for the most part been all sufficiently different enough to cause people to have to take a close look to verify and in their minds that they are looking at a Z. The only Z 's that have experienced little design difference between themselves have been the 350Z and the 370Z.

So this is what I mean when I say the design is "tired". The design branding of the look compared to the Z is too set into stone for the Vette. And as I said before it is starting to happen with the Mustang as well.

The SPLIT WINDOW COUPE was the 1963 Corvette.

1963 CORVETTE SPLIT WINDOW COUPE

[QUOTE=FricFrac;152705]????? The 370Z is completely different in almost every aspect compared to the 350Z.....QUOTE]


I agree with you; the C5 to C6 change is very much on par with the Z33 to Z34 change.

[QUOTE=Endgame;153586]I don't know if I would go quite that far, but it is indeed a difference.

I think you may have forgotten the 240z, 260z, and 280z. Very minor differences between those years, even less so than the 350z to 370z when talking about looks.

Great pictures!

But it also kinda proves the point. GM stopped seriously innovating in this car line a long, long time ago. This was before the Corvair debacle or the Vega engine disaster, even.

240Z-280Z -> 280ZX -> 300ZX (Z31) -> 300ZX (Z32) -> 350Z (Z33) at the very least are big changes even if you don't think the Z33 -> Z34 is a big change....

I think the 70-early 80's Stingray was the last super sexy Corvette. It has some serious curves!

And to my fat azz, I think the vette seats are much more comfy. The Z ones kind of squeeze me in for daily driving, although I think I will prefer them on the track.

As for the dated part, brand identity is huge and a good thing, is the 911 dated too?

I still love them both!
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^^^ Beautiful cars! :drool:

I love tq. I have always admired LS engine by GM. I may drive one sometime down the road.

You're still more than welcome to participate in our Lounge areas. Good luck with the car.