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Originally Posted by Pheonix I suppose they'd only be pigs to you if you aren't trying to look beyond the badge. Get to know some of them...they're not all Johnny

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Old 08-16-2009, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I suppose they'd only be pigs to you if you aren't trying to look beyond the badge. Get to know some of them...they're not all Johnny B Bad, as some members here have even testified.

Then again, working with law enforcement...I might just be a little bit biased myself.
Beyond the badge is usually a jerk who was bullied in high school and is now trying to bully other citizens while hiding behind his badge and his authority. Beyond the badge is a revenue generating monkey for the city whose main concern is trying to squeeze every dime out of innocent motorists just because they can't abide by archaic, outdated, and often illogical speed limit (never mind that the last people to obey the speed limit are the pigs themselves, whether on or off duty). Beyond the badge is a man who has no qualms about executing an illegal search of a car and violating civil liberties, just in case he gets lucky and bolster his resume with a drug bust or two. Beyond the badge is a guy who can't resist being a jerk, and insulting or mocking people for no reason other than his own amusement.
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Wow. Sounds like someone crossed the badge a time or two and didn't like what happened. I'm sure you were perfectly innocent.
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Wow. Sounds like someone crossed the badge a time or two and didn't like what happened. I'm sure you were perfectly innocent.
Nope, only brush with the law was a few speeding tickets handed out by obnoxious disrespectful cops. Yes, I was guilty on all of them. And yes, even when speeding, I was driving safely, and far less dangerous and far less reckless than most of your precious cops in their cruisers. On the other hand, I did seek police help 3 separate occations: was physically attacked twice, and was deliberately cut off and run off road by a road rager the 3rd occasion. In all 3 situations, I chose not to escalate the situation, but instead i did what a "civilized" person is taught to do, I backed down, and reported it to the police later. Guess what? On all 3 occasions, NOTHING happened! No one arrested, no one charged, absolutely nothing, heck no one even bothered to call me to follow up. I guess they were too busy giving out speeding tickets


So there you go. You were just proven wrong, now
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Nope, only brush with the law was a few speeding tickets handed out by obnoxious disrespectful cops. Yes, I was guilty on all of them. And yes, even when speeding, I was driving safely, and far less dangerous and far less reckless than most of your precious cops in their cruisers. On the other hand, I did seek police help 3 separate occations: was physically attacked twice, and was deliberately cut off and run off road by a road rager the 3rd occasion. In all 3 situations, I chose not to escalate the situation, but instead i did what a "civilized" person is taught to do, I backed down, and reported it to the police later. Guess what? On all 3 occasions, NOTHING happened! No one arrested, no one charged, absolutely nothing, heck no one even bothered to call me to follow up. I guess they were too busy giving out speeding tickets


So there you go. You were just proven wrong, now
Actually, you just kind of proved me right. You admitted crossing them, admitted guilt, and admitted dissatisfaction with services rendered. I don't feel like "gtfo" out at all, but...this being an internet forum and all, back and forth serves no real purpose, and in the end neither of us is going to "win" this argument.

For the sake of remaining civil, I just noticed you aren't in the States, and for whatever thats worth I am not at all familiar with Canadian law, or how officers there handle situations. My "precious officers", as you put it, are precious...you won't insult me by trying to insult them. I'm sorry you seem to have run across a few foul apples.

I can't say that there aren't any bad officers around here, either. Believe me, I can't say they're not all straight shooters or pricks. A lot of them are...but a lot of them aren't, and your EXTREMELY limited experience serves you with nothing but bad memories and an attitude that leaves you feeling as if the handful represent the whole...and in almost any situation this is not the case. Were I to judge these whole forums on your behavior I'd likely leave now without a second look back, and you wouldn't bat an eye.

Thats the difference in our attitudes, and arguing over the usefulness of an officer isn't going to change that.

Oh, and it always amuses me to know that those who proclaim from the hilltops about how worthless the police are still dial 911 like everyone else.

There are so many divergent answers I could give to your three claims here, but without knowing all the facts its mere speculation. Was anything taken in the assaults? Did you have hard evidence and IDs of the responsible? Were there witnesses? Were they located? What would you have done had you actually chased, pursued and caught up to the road rager? How would you have forced him to stop? What if he'd had a weapon when you did? What if you had a weapon? How far is too far? Not to mention the innumerable accidents you could have caused during the pursuit...its road rage...you know how easy it is to let that go and move on? It only eats at you as much as you let it.

Beyond that, we're simply going to disagree. You have your experiences and you won't budge from your views...I can't force you, and I won't even try. I can only hope at some point you see enough of the wider picture and larger whole to realize more than you do now.

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Beyond the badge is usually a jerk who was bullied in high school and is now trying to bully other citizens while hiding behind his badge and his authority.
Im in the process of becoming a cop. I wasnt bullied in high school and Im sure as hell not looking to bully other citizens "hiding" behind a badge. Your stereotype is pathetic. If I was looking forward to bullying someone then trust me, I would have no problem doing it without a badge.

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Beyond the badge is a revenue generating monkey for the city whose main concern is trying to squeeze every dime out of innocent motorists just because they can't abide by archaic, outdated, and often illogical speed limit (never mind that the last people to obey the speed limit are the pigs themselves, whether on or off duty). Beyond the badge is a man who has no qualms about executing an illegal search of a car and violating civil liberties, just in case he gets lucky and bolster his resume with a drug bust or two. Beyond the badge is a guy who can't resist being a jerk, and insulting or mocking people for no reason other than his own amusement.
Once again your stereotype FAILS miserably just like you do. You're just being a whiny little bitch because you probably got a ticket for doing something wrong. I guess since Im going to be a cop Im a revenue generating monkey bla bla bla like you claim. Right, my reasoning is to get scum off the streets so people like YOU dont have to worry about getting mugged or killed everywhere they go. But I guess this will go in one ear and out the other since you feel all cops are out to get you. Just remember next time when you have a problem to deal with it yourself tough guy and dont call the cops to help out out with anything. Im sure you wont listen to that either because you're probably just a big mouth hiding behind a computer who has no guts to say that to an officers face.
 
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WOW lets have a little fun here....


Im in the process of becoming a cop. I wasnt bullied in high school and Im sure as hell not looking to bully other citizens "hiding" behind a badge. Your stereotype is pathetic. If I was looking forward to bullying someone then trust me, I would have no problem doing it without a badge.


Once again your stereotype FAILS miserably just like you do. You're just being a whiny little bitch because you probably got a ticket for doing something wrong. I guess since Im going to be a cop Im a revenue generating monkey bla bla bla like you claim. Right, my reasoning is to get scum off the streets so people like YOU dont have to worry about getting mugged or killed everywhere they go. But I guess this will go in one ear and out the other since you feel all cops are out to get you. Just remember next time when you have a problem to deal with it yourself tough guy and dont call the cops to help out out with anything. Im sure you wont listen to that either because you're probably just a big mouth hiding behind a computer who has no guts to say that to an officers face.
wow...i agree not all cops are A$$holes some are really nice guys i met a lot. but there is a few who are just plain out pricks. And even if they are wrong wont admitted it. but lets remember those are few people.
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wow...i agree not all cops are A$$holes some are really nice guys i met a lot. but there is a few who are just plain out pricks. And even if they are wrong wont admitted it. but lets remember those are few people.
Yeah there are some bad ones. I've gotten one before I know its true. But this guy doesnt realize that not ALL cops are that way and not ALL cops write speeding tickets lol. NYPD has its own traffic unit then the other guys who patrol just looking for real crime.
 
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Memphis does, too...a seperate Traffic division...and then to further break that down, each precinct in the city will generally have their own Radar cars as well as UP for regular calls...and I'd imagine most large cities will have a similar set-up.

Thats not to say that UP doesn't run tags or violators when not on calls...supervisors generally stay on them to be doing something, and a violator is almost the easiest thing to find in a pinch...but people get so pissed off that they got stopped in the first place...as if it were the officers fault that they got caught speeding. Lets not forget that a great deal of felons and warrants are caught doing what?

Routine traffic stops.
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Yeah there are some bad ones. I've gotten one before I know its true. But this guy doesnt realize that not ALL cops are that way and not ALL cops write speeding tickets lol. NYPD has its own traffic unit then the other guys who patrol just looking for real crime.
No, not all cops are bad. But most of the ones I've seen are. And a good percentage of them are either jerks or even corrupt and criminal. Another problem is that your "good" cops hardly ever do anything to bust the bad ones. In fact, almost all cops are guaranteed to lie and cheat in order to cover up for their colleagues. Camraderie before truth.
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No, not all cops are bad. But most of the ones I've seen are. And a good percentage of them are either jerks or even corrupt and criminal. Another problem is that your "good" cops hardly ever do anything to bust the bad ones. In fact, almost all cops are guaranteed to lie and cheat in order to cover up for their colleagues. Camraderie before truth.
Wrong. They deal with issues internally. Just because you dont hear anything doesnt mean they dont take care of issues. Believe me I know first hand about officers getting into big trouble.
 
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No, not all cops are bad. But most of the ones I've seen are. And a good percentage of them are either jerks or even corrupt and criminal. Another problem is that your "good" cops hardly ever do anything to bust the bad ones. In fact, almost all cops are guaranteed to lie and cheat in order to cover up for their colleagues. Camraderie before truth.
Not true. Again, perhaps they deal with it differently in Canada, but around here...the news loves to make a big deal out of officers who get busted...and if your news isn't sniffing around the corruption, it isn't doing its job.

They have entire divisions set up to sniff through every single action a police officer makes...and with cell phone cameras in every hand now...you don't think every move an officer makes on a call is monitored? C'mon...consider the accident on the road scenario...everyone stops to look and watch it. Its the same with anything a cop does.

Clear your head for just a second and think about it.
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And a follow-up question for you, Pharmacist...

Why is it that you call officers and their ilk baboons and other demeaning material designed to do nothing but inflame and provoke...yet the same ones your targeting here are the only ones even bothering to respond to you...and furthermore? We're the only ones doing so with civility and respect...the same tokens you blatantly disregard here.

You seem to harbor a great deal of anger issues...if this is how you treated the cops who made the scene of each of your incidents...its no wonder you detest them. It would be all they could do simply to take the report in the first place.
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Im in the process of becoming a cop. I wasnt bullied in high school and Im sure as hell not looking to bully other citizens "hiding" behind a badge. Your stereotype is pathetic. If I was looking forward to bullying someone then trust me, I would have no problem doing it without a badge.


Once again your stereotype FAILS miserably just like you do. You're just being a whiny little bitch because you probably got a ticket for doing something wrong. I guess since Im going to be a cop Im a revenue generating monkey bla bla bla like you claim. Right, my reasoning is to get scum off the streets so people like YOU dont have to worry about getting mugged or killed everywhere they go. But I guess this will go in one ear and out the other since you feel all cops are out to get you. Just remember next time when you have a problem to deal with it yourself tough guy and dont call the cops to help out out with anything. Im sure you wont listen to that either because you're probably just a big mouth hiding behind a computer who has no guts to say that to an officers face.
Read my post you dumb fuckin retarded baboon! I did get assaulted by "scum" but your precious cops didn't "get them off the streets" like you say you want to. And yes, I'm more than capable of conducting myself in a fight. The only reason I didn't choose to fight is that I wanted to act "civilized" and let the useless cops handle it. To bad they didn't do a damn thing. And actually, I lift weights, and train in brazilian jiujitsu. So I'm more than just a big mouth. Wanna get your worthless carcass over here to try me out?
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Read my post you dumb fuckin retarded baboon! I did get assaulted by "scum" but your precious cops didn't "get them off the streets" like you say you want to. And yes, I'm more than capable of conducting myself in a fight. The only reason I didn't choose to fight is that I wanted to act "civilized" and let the useless cops handle it. To bad they didn't do a damn thing. And actually, I lift weights, and train in brazilian jiujitsu. So I'm more than just a big mouth. Wanna get your worthless carcass over here to try me out?
You call cops people hiding behind a badge. I call you an e-thug hiding behind a computer. Now you see how stereotypes work? There is a taste of your own medicine. I lift and trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu also. You're threats don't bother me. I also dont try to brag about training like it makes me better than anyone unlike yourself.

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