Z versus EVO thread!

ct63084 · 08-12-2009, 03:16 PM

Ok ok ok well I love the 370 and
i would never bash that car, but I do drive a EVO X so i'm obligated to defend my ride.

Before you go any further looks are subjective, real hp and track performance is not. I said this before and i would say it again "there is only a few cars that can match the potential of an evo mod for mod and that is a proven fact"

EXHIBIT A: Here is the man itself Ryan Gates he's been tracking his evo x for a while now with 500 AWHP on STOCK MOTOR, no cam no updraged internals just external bolts ons with no hiccups and breaking track records. Just imagine the power he would get with upgraded internals. Here is the thread and video of his review with his evo x so far

Gates311: Evo X Reliability - evolutionm.net

EXHIBIT B: Let the video talks for itself a legal street car
YouTube - Chris AMS Evo

I think this Car is hitting 900 awhp right now correct me if i'm wrong

EXHIBIT C: This video shows you the potential of an EVO on the track, you top gear fans have probably seen this already

YouTube - Top Gear: Evo vs Lambo

EXHIBIT D: Here is the link to GST motorsports tunes, as you can see those EVOX are already breaking the 300 awhp with a DROP IN FILTER

Evo 10 - Gst Motorsports Tunes - Evo Empire Forum

EXHIBIT E: Here is the AMS EVO X TIME ATTACK car setting the AWHP record for EVO X (Reminder the EVOX has only been out for a lil over 2 years thats including the engine 4B11.)

YouTube - AMS / NOS Energy Drink TA EVO X sets a new HP record!

This is the in car video, if i remember correctly this car is also breaking track records for it's racing class.

YouTube - AMS / NOS Energy Drink Time Attack EVO X - in car

Now like i said i would never bash the 370 or 350 and you could probably find a 350 out there with TT and has like 1000 rhp or a 370 that can outrun a evo on the track or find other videos of a 370 beating a evo. But you can't deny the potential of Evo's. It's a proven fact that you have to spend a lot of money on a 370 to keep up with Evo with 3k dropped on the engine.

For the people that say they buy the 370 bec it's a true sports car let me tell you this what is a true sports car? Is it a car with two seats and two doors, a car with four doors and awd. The answer is none any car that can go on a track really really fast and kick exotic cars *** that to me is a true essence/heart of a sports car. Also i've seen just as much retarded 350 drivers as any cars out there so just because you met some dumb evo drivers doesn't meet they are all like that.

I love both cars but it kinda baffles me people bash the evo like this, remember LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE HP AND TRACK PERFORMANCE IS NOT.

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 02:21 PM

And as a former DSM owner/racer, I know the limits of the 4G63, and 11's are attainable, however, beyond 500whp, you need a stouter block.

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Rashionale behind poor resale is this, company goes under (GM), spooks potential buyers, demand goes down, cars sell for less, in turn receive less. The Camaro seems to be their only saving grace, but even that wont dig them out of the hole they dug for themselves.

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 02:47 PM

a co-worker of mine tried to trade his Chrysler 300 in on a new Camry, the car was paid off. They offered him 8k, needless to say he still owns the "Phantom" just an ex.

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 02:50 PM

Speaking of resale, id be worried about owning a Mitsu right about now, rumor is they may go tits up w/i a year.

m4a1mustang · 08-12-2009, 02:52 PM

This thread makes me want to jump out my window.

awesomez · 08-12-2009, 03:22 PM

Someone mentioned FQ-400... isn't FQ-400 more of a GT-R price territory.

bboypuertoroc · 08-12-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awesomez

Someone mentioned FQ-400... isn't FQ-400 more of a GT-R price territory.

Price doesn't matter. It's a production Evo.

EDIT: By production, I mean stock.

Nismo 370z · 08-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awesomez

Someone mentioned FQ-400... isn't FQ-400 more of a GT-R price territory.

But its also in the GTR performance territory. 0-60 in 3.5???

shabarivas · 08-12-2009, 03:36 PM

I used to have an X - I have met and spoken with just as many sane enthusiasts from the Evo community as I have from the Z/G ones... There will be idiots who own both - and yes there are plenty of silly Z owners and evo owners alike..

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 03:53 PM

personally i prefer the STI, much better car, and it will hold its resale after a year. Ooh that oughta strike a nerve!

bboypuertoroc · 08-12-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

personally i prefer the STI, much better car, and it will hold its resale after a year. Ooh that oughta strike a nerve!

The STi is a better car how (besides some of the interior)?

And lol@resale value... you DO realize that the Evo's KBB is HIGHER than the STi's, right ('06, 45k miles, excellent)? Not by much ($1k), but still worth more.

Where do you people get your information from?

Red370 · 08-12-2009, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

The STi is a better car how (besides some of the interior)?

And lol@resale value... you DO realize that the Evo's KBB is HIGHER than the STi's, right ('06, 45k miles, excellent)? Not by much ($1k), but still worth more.

Where do you people get your information from?

lol, umm... maybe because the EVO msrp is 34k, while the STI's is 33, theres your difference. Where do you get your facts old timer? EVO fanboy forums? mmhmm thought so.

ct63084 · 08-12-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

lol, umm... maybe because the EVO msrp is 34k, while the STI's is 33, theres your difference. Where do you get your facts old timer? EVO fanboy forums? mmhmm thought so.

34k msrp? i got my brand new gsr for 31k loaded.

bboypuertoroc · 08-12-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

lol, umm... maybe because the EVO msrp is 34k, while the STI's is 33, theres your difference. Where do you get your facts old timer? EVO fanboy forums? mmhmm thought so.

You fail again.

Try $32,990 for an Evo IX and $32,995 for an '06 STi.

Actually, MSRP on the Evo dropped to $31,399 after I bought mine. My window sticker (which I still have) has MSRP at $32,990.

My facts? I get them from Mitsubishi and Subaru.

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08-12-2009, 03:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 17	Ok ok ok well I love the 370 and i would never bash that car, but I do drive a EVO X so i'm obligated to defend my ride. Before you go any further looks are subjective, real hp and track performance is not. I said this before and i would say it again "there is only a few cars that can match the potential of an evo mod for mod and that is a proven fact" EXHIBIT A: Here is the man itself Ryan Gates he's been tracking his evo x for a while now with 500 AWHP on STOCK MOTOR, no cam no updraged internals just external bolts ons with no hiccups and breaking track records. Just imagine the power he would get with upgraded internals. Here is the thread and video of his review with his evo x so far Gates311: Evo X Reliability - evolutionm.net EXHIBIT B: Let the video talks for itself a legal street car YouTube - Chris AMS Evo I think this Car is hitting 900 awhp right now correct me if i'm wrong EXHIBIT C: This video shows you the potential of an EVO on the track, you top gear fans have probably seen this already YouTube - Top Gear: Evo vs Lambo EXHIBIT D: Here is the link to GST motorsports tunes, as you can see those EVOX are already breaking the 300 awhp with a DROP IN FILTER Evo 10 - Gst Motorsports Tunes - Evo Empire Forum EXHIBIT E: Here is the AMS EVO X TIME ATTACK car setting the AWHP record for EVO X (Reminder the EVOX has only been out for a lil over 2 years thats including the engine 4B11.) YouTube - AMS / NOS Energy Drink TA EVO X sets a new HP record! This is the in car video, if i remember correctly this car is also breaking track records for it's racing class. YouTube - AMS / NOS Energy Drink Time Attack EVO X - in car Now like i said i would never bash the 370 or 350 and you could probably find a 350 out there with TT and has like 1000 rhp or a 370 that can outrun a evo on the track or find other videos of a 370 beating a evo. But you can't deny the potential of Evo's. It's a proven fact that you have to spend a lot of money on a 370 to keep up with Evo with 3k dropped on the engine. For the people that say they buy the 370 bec it's a true sports car let me tell you this what is a true sports car? Is it a car with two seats and two doors, a car with four doors and awd. The answer is none any car that can go on a track really really fast and kick exotic cars *** that to me is a true essence/heart of a sports car. Also i've seen just as much retarded 350 drivers as any cars out there so just because you met some dumb evo drivers doesn't meet they are all like that. I love both cars but it kinda baffles me people bash the evo like this, remember LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE HP AND TRACK PERFORMANCE IS NOT.

08-12-2009, 02:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	And as a former DSM owner/racer, I know the limits of the 4G63, and 11's are attainable, however, beyond 500whp, you need a stouter block.

08-12-2009, 02:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Rashionale behind poor resale is this, company goes under (GM), spooks potential buyers, demand goes down, cars sell for less, in turn receive less. The Camaro seems to be their only saving grace, but even that wont dig them out of the hole they dug for themselves.

08-12-2009, 02:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	a co-worker of mine tried to trade his Chrysler 300 in on a new Camry, the car was paid off. They offered him 8k, needless to say he still owns the "Phantom" just an ex.

08-12-2009, 02:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Speaking of resale, id be worried about owning a Mitsu right about now, rumor is they may go tits up w/i a year.

08-12-2009, 03:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
awesomez Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: VA Posts: 199 Drives: 09 370Z Touring 7AT Rep Power: 16	Someone mentioned FQ-400... isn't FQ-400 more of a GT-R price territory.

08-12-2009, 03:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 915	I used to have an X - I have met and spoken with just as many sane enthusiasts from the Evo community as I have from the Z/G ones... There will be idiots who own both - and yes there are plenty of silly Z owners and evo owners alike..

08-12-2009, 03:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	personally i prefer the STI, much better car, and it will hold its resale after a year. Ooh that oughta strike a nerve!