Z Broke Down :(

grahfz · 08-12-2009, 11:41 PM

hrmm, maybe it'd help a bit for people to describe their oil usage over mileage, along with what kind of break-in was given.

I'm at 6100 miles, 150 from next dealer oil change, over the H mark on the stick still.
Normal driving for the break-in, no fear of revs... same way I've seated in other nissan engines that I've built.
See the blinky red light on the dash often enough.

NeedforZ · 08-12-2009, 11:56 PM

Whew. I'm at 3050 mi and the oil level is within a hair of when I last changed it about 1300 miles ago.

FricFrac · 08-13-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

That was common sense 30 years ago, when tolerances were measured in fractions of an inch, not fractions of a millimeter!

Right because fractions of an inch are smaller/different than fractions of a milimeter? So a tolerance of 1/10th of a mm is better than 1/10000 of an inch? I know what you are trying to say but it didn't quite come out right....

Does it seriously hurt to check your oil frequently? You do realize this is a mechanical device that can from time to time fail. If you observe normal and not normal behaviour you can prevent sometimes catastrophic failure. A little time invested is worth the grief it can prevent you.

semtex · 08-13-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

A little time invested is worth the grief it can prevent you.

Plus you can lick the oil off of the dipstick. The Omega-3's are good for you.

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Does it seriously hurt to check your oil frequently?

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

wstar · 08-13-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

I don't believe this engine has any issue with regard to oil consumption. All cars will consume oil at some rate, and high compression engines that are driven hard have a good chance of doing it more than others. I haven't seen any real evidence that our car has any abnormal problem with it though. On all cars, checking the oil level on a regular basis is just part and parcel of normal preventative maintenance. There's nothing wrong with the car in this respect.

FricFrac · 08-13-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

OK I'm trying to say this in a non-offensive way.... this is a high performance engine with a high compression ratio. All high compression engines are prone to burning some oil. A liter of oil every two tanks of gas is excessive but myself I've burnt a single liter in 6000KM and that is including break in. Someone mentioned the Corvette with a more than 500 miles/liter of oil being within the normal range. We are no where near that.

I just don't understand how a liter of oil every couple of months is an issue. Its super cheap to add a liter. Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

Oil consumption on the VQ engines would be very easy to inform yourself about before buying this vehicle - its not the Universe's fault that you didn't do your homework before you bought the vehicle. Its not new info and neither is the VQ37HR - its been out for years. Again no offense but the info is readily available....

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

OK I'm trying to say this in a non-offensive way.... this is a high performance engine with a high compression ratio. All high compression engines are prone to burning some oil. A liter of oil every two tanks of gas is excessive but myself I've burnt a single liter in 6000KM and that is including break in. Someone mentioned the Corvette with a more than 500 miles/liter of oil being within the normal range. We are no where near that.

I just don't understand how a liter of oil every couple of months is an issue. Its super cheap to add a liter. Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

Oil consumption on the VQ engines would be very easy to inform yourself about before buying this vehicle - its not the Universe's fault that you didn't do your homework before you bought the vehicle. Its not new info and neither is the VQ37HR - its been out for years. Again no offense but the info is readily available....

Readily available? Where?

earwicker7 · 08-13-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

And it's going, going, going... look, folks, he's hit it all the way out of the park!

After all, this is an auto enthusiast website, correct? As in enthusiastic about taking care of your car? Are there actually people out there who will spend hours adding bolt-on parts to get a few extra horses but can't be bothered to spend a few extra minutes a month to keep the engine running? What else are you guys not checking? Are you the people I see here in Los Angeles driving a Ferrari with half-inflated tires?

All I can say is that I don't want to see any of you who complain about checking your fluids later complaining that Nissan wouldn't fix your engine under warranty.

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7

And it's going, going, going... look, folks, he's hit it all the way out of the park!

After all, this is an auto enthusiast website, correct? As in enthusiastic about taking care of your car? Are there actually people out there who will spend hours adding bolt-on parts to get a few extra horses but can't be bothered to spend a few extra minutes a month to keep the engine running? What else are you guys not checking? Are you the people I see here in Los Angeles driving a Ferrari with half-inflated tires?

All I can say is that I don't want to see any of you who complain about checking your fluids later complaining that Nissan wouldn't fix your engine under warranty.

I'm enthusiastic about driving and owning my car. Maintenance is just another hassle. I do however, look forward to getting my G3 intakes and putting those in, as well as when I ge the money rounded up for the HFC's and cat-back.

Until then, my car better not burn no oil!

m4a1mustang · 08-13-2009, 01:05 PM

See, I would think that this thread would encourage people to take at least some maintenance items into their own hands... but I guess not!

Caravanshaka · 08-13-2009, 01:08 PM

checking your oil is like taking a sh!t...you may not always want to do it, but it's definitely something that needs to be done on a regular basis!

bloodo · 08-13-2009, 01:13 PM

Just want to throw this out here. Make sure you check your oil on a level surface and after the engine has cool down. Else you could get a false reading.

I know this is obvious and common sense, but some people might easily forget that.

6MT · 08-13-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka

checking your oil is like taking a sh!t...you may not always want to do it, but it's definitely something that needs to be done on a regular basis!

LOL LMAO

Spec Jay · 08-13-2009, 01:28 PM

fusz did you send out the remaning oil to blackstone?

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grahfz Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: atlanta Posts: 93 Drives: Touring/6/nav/sport Rep Power: 16	hrmm, maybe it'd help a bit for people to describe their oil usage over mileage, along with what kind of break-in was given. I'm at 6100 miles, 150 from next dealer oil change, over the H mark on the stick still. Normal driving for the break-in, no fear of revs... same way I've seated in other nissan engines that I've built. See the blinky red light on the dash often enough.

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bloodo Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nebraska Posts: 93 Drives: . Rep Power: 16	Just want to throw this out here. Make sure you check your oil on a level surface and after the engine has cool down. Else you could get a false reading. I know this is obvious and common sense, but some people might easily forget that.