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Muney2bMade 09-16-2013 06:51 PM

HR or 370?
 
Had a discussion with a friend last night.

He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370

That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp


What you guys think?


(Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

Read T 09-16-2013 06:53 PM

No

Z_ealot 09-16-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muney2bMade (Post 2490358)
Had a discussion with a friend last night.

He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370

That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp


What you guys think?


(Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

tell your friend to lay off the pipe....seriously though the HR in the 350 in a straight line is only marginally slower than the 370, but the 370 is stil faster up at the top end due to having VVEL which makes the 370 pull harder up top than the HR in the 350. when it comes to handling though it's no contest the 350 has nothing on the handling of the 370 stock for stock

DEpointfive0 09-16-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 2490366)
tell your friend to lay off the pipe....seriously though the HR in the 350 in a straight line is only marginally slower than the 370, but the 370 is stil faster up at the top end due to having VVEL which makes the 370 pull harder up top than the HR in the 350. when it comes to handling though it's no contest the 350 has nothing on the handling of the 370 stock for stock

:iagree: an while the HR was better than the DE, the 370 is a far superior car in every aspect (stock for stock and not putting driver skill into account)

mag_black 09-16-2013 07:26 PM

Oh god; I've seen this argument so many times over at my350z.com when I was shopping for a Z. I guess my purchase speaks for itself.

edit: Do they think Nissan would make an inferior replacement?

andre12031948 09-16-2013 07:26 PM

I don't know of a single 370 N/A z dd that can touch my 08 350z. However I saw your record holder the day he did that 12.2 record run & I'm almost sure I can't touch that. I also think that in stock form or moded the 370z has apx. a 20h.p advantage & some higher rpm advantage.

I believe a 370z is a little bit lighter as well. However I do love the 350z hr 4 camshaft engine. It doesn't get hot & is almost indestructible.

DEpointfive0 09-16-2013 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mag_black (Post 2490398)
Oh god; I've seen this argument so many times over at my350z.com when I was shopping for a Z. I guess my purchase speaks for itself.

edit: Do they think Nissan would make an inferior replacement?

The 350Z DE was inferior to the 300ZX TT

mag_black 09-16-2013 07:28 PM

^^^ good point

DEpointfive0 09-16-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490400)
I don't know of a single 370 N/A z dd that can touch my 08 350z. However I saw your record holder the day he did that 12.2 record run & I'm almost sure I can't touch that. I also think that in stock form or moded the 370z has apx. a 20h.p advantage & some higher rpm advantage.

I believe a 370z is a little bit lighter as well. However I do love the 350z hr 4 camshaft engine. It doesn't get hot & is almost indestructible.

I don't get it...? You're saying which car is faster?

Are you saying 1/4 mile? If so, what's your 1/4 mile time? (Slip please) and what are your mods? (Interior ripped out is a mod too)

mag_black 09-16-2013 07:33 PM

He doesn't know of "A SINGLE 370Z N/A that can touch his car". That's a big statement.

andre12031948 09-16-2013 07:49 PM

I'm sorry
 
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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2490407)
I don't get it...? You're saying which car is faster?

Are you saying 1/4 mile? If so, what's your 1/4 mile time? (Slip please) and what are your mods? (Interior ripped out is a mod too)

I guess I thought that people know me. Sorry.

I hold the 350z.com 1/4 record at 12.419. I held their record & broke it maybe seven times in the last 3-1/2 years since I started drag racing it.

I also won that September 22 Atco meet n/a heads up class last year. There was no 350z or 370z even close to me. That was done with my 3:90 gears, not my current 4:08's & it was pretty much my first time at the track in many, many months because of the car getting caught by an overflowing river that covered it with ten feet of water:) Storm Irene. It was almost totally rewired after getting totaled, then bought from the insurance company. I have no problem doing 12.4's all day long. I also have only a few mods. Stock exhaust & intakes.

Still I did say that the 370 has a h.p advantage as well as rpm & handling.

Oh, I don't know a single daily driver 370z N/A that's close to my car. If there is one, I'd like to know so not to post that again. Thanks.

Muney2bMade 09-16-2013 07:53 PM

HR's, from what I've seen, have really low drivetrain loss... I've seen stock 370s dyno at 271

Chuck33079 09-16-2013 07:55 PM

From everything I've read, the 370 is lighter than the 350.

andre12031948 09-16-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2490451)
From everything I've read, the 370 is lighter than the 350.

Just a bit. ^^^^^I only take out my spare tire before racing. Nothing gutted. I do use slicks and do 1.60's 60' times. I'm also a very good driver.

Chuck33079 09-16-2013 08:00 PM

Thought it was 100lbs+, base vs. base. Curb weight of a base 370 is 3232lbs. What's a 350?

Tigger 09-16-2013 08:03 PM

Post your time slip. I want to see STOCK FOR STOCK. And btw, these 350 vs. 370 vs. 300 threads are quite puerile. Get over it. I, personally couldn't care less. I'm only responding because this is total garbage.

"I guess I thought that people know me." - Son, I don't know you, never heard of you and I don't give a crap about you. So please, before you get over "it", get over yourself.

Trips 09-16-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490440)
I guess I thought that people know me. Sorry.

I hold the 350z.com 1/4 record at 12.419. I held their record & broke it maybe seven times in the last 3-1/2 years since I started drag racing it.

I also won that September 22 Atco meet n/a heads up class last year. There was no 350z or 370z even close to me. That was done with my 3:90 gears, not my current 4:08's & it was pretty much my first time at the track in many, many months because of the car getting caught by an overflowing river that covered it with ten feet of water:) Storm Irene. It was almost totally rewired after getting totaled, then bought from the insurance company. I have no problem doing 12.4's all day long. I also have only a few mods. Stock exhaust & intakes.

Still I did say that the 370 has a h.p advantage as well as rpm & handling.

Oh, I don't know a single daily driver 370z N/A that's close to my car. If there is one, I'd like to know so not to post that again. Thanks.

Did you NOT read the Op's question?

This a STOCK to STOCK comparison NOT who's got the fastest Z

Keep it on topic!!

andre12031948 09-16-2013 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2490459)
Thought it was 100lbs+, base vs. base. Curb weight of a base 370 is 3232lbs. What's a 350?

I don't know but it's not that much to make a difference. Maybe 60 to 100Lb lighter.

Chuck33079 09-16-2013 08:09 PM

Google has a 2008 350z at 3320 lbs. So the 370 is lighter, has more power and more tire under the rear. What was the question again?

andre12031948 09-16-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 2490464)
Did you NOT read the Op's question?

This a STOCK to STOCK comparison NOT who's got the fastest Z

Keep it on topic!!

I said stock or moded the 370z had apx. 20hp advantage, plus rpm & handling.

The rest was to explain the other stuff that was brought up.

JungleZ 09-16-2013 08:19 PM

G35 ftw

Haboob 09-16-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490440)
I guess I thought that people know me.

Nope.


Never have heard of you. Never have heard of anyone named "andre12031948", and something tells me that that's a pretty unique name.






That being said, doesn't matter to me which is faster. The 370 looks the part, therefore is better. That's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

Muney2bMade 09-16-2013 08:29 PM

It was rated at more power. I feel like an Auto 370 would lose to a standard HR

andre12031948 09-16-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2490509)
Nope.


Never have heard of you. Never have heard of anyone named "andre12031948", and something tells me that that's a pretty unique name.






That being said, doesn't matter to me which is faster. The 370 looks the part, therefore is better. That's my logic and I'm sticking to it.

The 370 is a bit quicker & faster. In my opinion.

Chuck33079 09-16-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490518)
The 370 is a bit quicker & faster. In my opinion.

It's not an opinion. It's a fact. The 350 is a slower car stock.

DIGItonium 09-16-2013 08:34 PM

IMO, the 370Z looks faster. I know because I had an '03 350Z for 6 years.

Haboob 09-16-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2490526)
IMO, the 370Z looks faster. I know because I had an '03 350Z for 6 years.

Looks are everything.












Err... okay, 90%.

andre12031948 09-16-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2490522)
It's not an opinion. It's a fact. The 350 is a slower car stock.

However I think the 350z has nicer lines. In my opinion.

andre12031948 09-16-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2490543)
Looks are everything.












Err... okay, 90%.

:icon17:

DIGItonium 09-16-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490556)
However I think the 350z has nicer lines. In my opinion.

From a standstill? The lines are blurred when moving fast. :driving:

andre12031948 09-16-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 2490602)
From a standstill? The lines are blurred when moving fast. :driving:

They are both winners. I may even buy a 370z soon. I was just trying to stress "my opinion" in that post. I think I'm allowed to have one.

6MT 09-16-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muney2bMade (Post 2490358)
Had a discussion with a friend last night.

He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370

That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp


What you guys think?


(Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

Wut's an "HR"?

DEpointfive0 09-16-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2490644)
Wut's an "HR"?

High Rev

The original 350Z had a VQ35DE motor making 287HP, the VQ35HR revs higher, has 2 intakes, and made, 306HP?

6MT 09-16-2013 09:41 PM

I figured... but the way the thread started and progressed, I though they were all referring to a car.:icon14:

Haboob 09-16-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2490644)
Wut's an "HR"?

Homerun I think.

DIGItonium 09-16-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2490636)
They are both winners. I may even buy a 370z soon. I was just trying to stress "my opinion" in that post. I think I'm allowed to have one.

Haha I wasn't being serious at all with my responses. It's fun writing a little snarky post without a smiley to see how serious it looks. :)

Lug 09-17-2013 10:08 AM

As far as base weights...

2003-2005 = 3188lbs

2006-2008 = 3339lbs

2009- _ 3232lbs

In other words, if he has an HR engine, he weighs more.

Lug 09-17-2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muney2bMade (Post 2490510)
It was rated at more power. I feel like an Auto 370 would lose to a standard HR

Another topic to get people going! The Auto has tested out about .1 tic faster than the standard in in a straight line in most cases. It's certainly not slower.

kenchan 09-17-2013 10:14 AM

... wats a HR? :confused:


*kenchan tips toes out*

Elan 09-17-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2491487)
... wats a HR? :confused:


*kenchan tips toes out*

The reallllllllllllly good engine in the 2007-2008 350Z! Great car! Walked on the 2006 DE rev-up too. 370Z >>> 350Z in every aspect EXCEPT the stock exhaust note...

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