HR or 370?

Muney2bMade · 09-16-2013, 07:51 PM

Had a discussion with a friend last night.

He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370

That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp

What you guys think?

(Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

Read T · 09-16-2013, 07:53 PM

No

Z_ealot · 09-16-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Muney2bMade

Had a discussion with a friend last night.

He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370

That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp

What you guys think?

(Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

tell your friend to lay off the pipe....seriously though the HR in the 350 in a straight line is only marginally slower than the 370, but the 370 is stil faster up at the top end due to having VVEL which makes the 370 pull harder up top than the HR in the 350. when it comes to handling though it's no contest the 350 has nothing on the handling of the 370 stock for stock

DEpointfive0 · 09-16-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

tell your friend to lay off the pipe....seriously though the HR in the 350 in a straight line is only marginally slower than the 370, but the 370 is stil faster up at the top end due to having VVEL which makes the 370 pull harder up top than the HR in the 350. when it comes to handling though it's no contest the 350 has nothing on the handling of the 370 stock for stock

an while the HR was better than the DE, the 370 is a far superior car in every aspect (stock for stock and not putting driver skill into account)

mag_black · 09-16-2013, 08:26 PM

Oh god; I've seen this argument so many times over at my350z.com when I was shopping for a Z. I guess my purchase speaks for itself.

edit: Do they think Nissan would make an inferior replacement?

andre12031948 · 09-16-2013, 08:26 PM

I don't know of a single 370 N/A z dd that can touch my 08 350z. However I saw your record holder the day he did that 12.2 record run & I'm almost sure I can't touch that. I also think that in stock form or moded the 370z has apx. a 20h.p advantage & some higher rpm advantage.

I believe a 370z is a little bit lighter as well. However I do love the 350z hr 4 camshaft engine. It doesn't get hot & is almost indestructible.

DEpointfive0 · 09-16-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mag_black

Oh god; I've seen this argument so many times over at my350z.com when I was shopping for a Z. I guess my purchase speaks for itself.

edit: Do they think Nissan would make an inferior replacement?

The 350Z DE was inferior to the 300ZX TT

mag_black · 09-16-2013, 08:28 PM

^^^ good point

DEpointfive0 · 09-16-2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

I don't know of a single 370 N/A z dd that can touch my 08 350z. However I saw your record holder the day he did that 12.2 record run & I'm almost sure I can't touch that. I also think that in stock form or moded the 370z has apx. a 20h.p advantage & some higher rpm advantage.

I believe a 370z is a little bit lighter as well. However I do love the 350z hr 4 camshaft engine. It doesn't get hot & is almost indestructible.

I don't get it...? You're saying which car is faster?

Are you saying 1/4 mile? If so, what's your 1/4 mile time? (Slip please) and what are your mods? (Interior ripped out is a mod too)

mag_black · 09-16-2013, 08:33 PM

He doesn't know of "A SINGLE 370Z N/A that can touch his car". That's a big statement.

andre12031948 · 09-16-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

I don't get it...? You're saying which car is faster?

Are you saying 1/4 mile? If so, what's your 1/4 mile time? (Slip please) and what are your mods? (Interior ripped out is a mod too)

I guess I thought that people know me. Sorry.

I hold the 350z.com 1/4 record at 12.419. I held their record & broke it maybe seven times in the last 3-1/2 years since I started drag racing it.

I also won that September 22 Atco meet n/a heads up class last year. There was no 350z or 370z even close to me. That was done with my 3:90 gears, not my current 4:08's & it was pretty much my first time at the track in many, many months because of the car getting caught by an overflowing river that covered it with ten feet of water

Storm Irene. It was almost totally rewired after getting totaled, then bought from the insurance company. I have no problem doing 12.4's all day long. I also have only a few mods. Stock exhaust & intakes.

Still I did say that the 370 has a h.p advantage as well as rpm & handling.

Oh, I don't know a single daily driver 370z N/A that's close to my car. If there is one, I'd like to know so not to post that again. Thanks.

Muney2bMade · 09-16-2013, 08:53 PM

HR's, from what I've seen, have really low drivetrain loss... I've seen stock 370s dyno at 271

Chuck33079 · 09-16-2013, 08:55 PM

From everything I've read, the 370 is lighter than the 350.

andre12031948 · 09-16-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

From everything I've read, the 370 is lighter than the 350.

Just a bit. ^^^^^I only take out my spare tire before racing. Nothing gutted. I do use slicks and do 1.60's 60' times. I'm also a very good driver.

Chuck33079 · 09-16-2013, 09:00 PM

Thought it was 100lbs+, base vs. base. Curb weight of a base 370 is 3232lbs. What's a 350?

09-16-2013, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Muney2bMade Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: tulsa Posts: 19 Drives: 06 g35 Rep Power: 12	HR or 370? Had a discussion with a friend last night. He was saying stock for stock the HR is faster than a 370 That the 370 was heavier (numbers for the curb weight online are all over the place, he said.) and that it was overrated crank hp What you guys think? (Yeah I know 370's are HR too but 350HR vs 370)

09-16-2013, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Read T A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,046 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z BC 6M Rep Power: 18	No __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z Black Cherry Sport Pkg - Daily Driver, , 1960 Morgan +4 fun car, 1986 BMW 325ES, 1998 M3 and 1996 Spec Miata - Race Cars SUPPORT TEAM WINSOME RACING - WRL, CHUMP, LEMONS

09-16-2013, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
mag_black A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,400 Drives: 09 370Z MT6 Rep Power: 666	Oh god; I've seen this argument so many times over at my350z.com when I was shopping for a Z. I guess my purchase speaks for itself. edit: Do they think Nissan would make an inferior replacement? __________________ fujimura ≠ abbeyRoadCompany ≠ fastIntentions ≠ motordyne ≠ avantGarde ≠ ecutek ≠ nismo ≠ stillen ≠ stoptech ≠ gtm ≠ spl ≠ carbonfiberelement ≠ stance™

09-16-2013, 08:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
mag_black A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,400 Drives: 09 370Z MT6 Rep Power: 666	^^^ good point DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ fujimura ≠ abbeyRoadCompany ≠ fastIntentions ≠ motordyne ≠ avantGarde ≠ ecutek ≠ nismo ≠ stillen ≠ stoptech ≠ gtm ≠ spl ≠ carbonfiberelement ≠ stance™

09-16-2013, 08:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
mag_black A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,400 Drives: 09 370Z MT6 Rep Power: 666	He doesn't know of "A SINGLE 370Z N/A that can touch his car". That's a big statement. __________________ fujimura ≠ abbeyRoadCompany ≠ fastIntentions ≠ motordyne ≠ avantGarde ≠ ecutek ≠ nismo ≠ stillen ≠ stoptech ≠ gtm ≠ spl ≠ carbonfiberelement ≠ stance™

09-16-2013, 08:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	I don't know of a single 370 N/A z dd that can touch my 08 350z. However I saw your record holder the day he did that 12.2 record run & I'm almost sure I can't touch that. I also think that in stock form or moded the 370z has apx. a 20h.p advantage & some higher rpm advantage. I believe a 370z is a little bit lighter as well. However I do love the 350z hr 4 camshaft engine. It doesn't get hot & is almost indestructible.

09-16-2013, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Muney2bMade Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: tulsa Posts: 19 Drives: 06 g35 Rep Power: 12	HR's, from what I've seen, have really low drivetrain loss... I've seen stock 370s dyno at 271

09-16-2013, 08:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	From everything I've read, the 370 is lighter than the 350. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-16-2013, 09:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Thought it was 100lbs+, base vs. base. Curb weight of a base 370 is 3232lbs. What's a 350? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent