NEW Dyno results are in....

nogoodname · 08-07-2009, 09:21 PM

stink eye'in me now

frost · 08-07-2009, 09:33 PM

I used to have a gto, along with my boss. We both rolled our fenders, mine came out fine, his paint flaked up. Just gotta have the touch I guess

Kidding, don't risk your paint.

DannyGT · 08-07-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

Oh! So, since I don't want to loose that aggressive look, I'll need to take nogood's advice and now yours and trim the car. What about if I take the car to a body shop and have them roll the fenders? That was discussed as an option today, too.

Looks like you have two things I haven't done yet: corner balancing and the alignment....hopefully after those are done it will stop?

I have to ask.....what is corner balancing? Is that something that can be done (or will be done) at the time of the alignment or do I have to speciffically ask for it?

At this time, I would not roll it. One big reason being, is that unfortunatly you cannot roll that clip, and it sucks because thats where the rubbing occurs. TRUST ME - I have tried and its not happening.

So, corner balancing is usually done when your getting aligned and in simple terms it basically raises/lowers all the corners accordingly to reach a 50/50 cross balance on the vehicle. Also, I would recommend to get it done with a half tank of gas so your as balanced as possible. A good shop will even balance and align your car based on the drivers weight too!

You just tell them you like the height where it is and when they balance it the changes are literally minimal and you wont really notice. Also, you might be able to get away without having to cut anything with a camber of -2.2 or more in the front.

I'll try and take pictures tomorrow of the amount I cut (before my balance/alignment) which eliminated the issue. I just want you to get the balance alignment done first because it may stop the rubbing all together. Its still going to be VERY close.

Hope this helps...

kdo2milger · 08-07-2009, 10:29 PM

Impressive!!!

you thought about a wetshot for another 100 whp?

2theextreme · 08-07-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

At this time, I would not roll it. One big reason being, is that unfortunatly you cannot roll that clip, and it sucks because thats where the rubbing occurs. TRUST ME - I have tried and its not happening.

So, corner balancing is usually done when your getting aligned and in simple terms it basically raises/lowers all the corners accordingly to reach a 50/50 cross balance on the vehicle. Also, I would recommend to get it done with a half tank of gas so your as balanced as possible. A good shop will even balance and align your car based on the drivers weight too!

You just tell them you like the height where it is and when they balance it the changes are literally minimal and you wont really notice. Also, you might be able to get away without having to cut anything with a camber of -2.2 or more in the front.

I'll try and take pictures tomorrow of the amount I cut (before my balance/alignment) which eliminated the issue. I just want you to get the balance alignment done first because it may stop the rubbing all together. Its still going to be VERY close.

Hope this helps...

Thanks for the tip! Yes, I'd love to see pictures. Did you take your car to a specific shop or just some place like Just Tires or NTB?

DannyGT · 08-08-2009, 12:11 AM

Euro Tire in NJ, they are kinda famous for how good they are. They setup a ton of track Porsche's. I mean alot of places that do alignment can do balancing, but I guess some just do it alot better than others.

2theextreme · 08-08-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT

Euro Tire in NJ, they are kinda famous for how good they are. They setup a ton of track Porsche's. I mean alot of places that do alignment can do balancing, but I guess some just do it alot better than others.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Time for me to do a little researching around the local area and see who has a good rep for balancing and alignment.

2theextreme · 08-08-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

Impressive!!!

you thought about a wetshot for another 100 whp?

No, never heard of that, actually. Do tell.....

kdo2milger · 08-08-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme

No, never heard of that, actually. Do tell.....

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No Nitrous Section ?

Endgame · 08-08-2009, 09:35 AM

I agree Tony... TIme to tune her up next!!

ZKindaGuy · 08-08-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

Maybe someone can clear this up but it seems that when people dynoed individualy these mods that there were gains of 15+hp. However from what I've been seeing from people like you who have all these mods put on and then dynoed it seems the total hp gain from intake, exhuast, and HFC is around 25. I know ricer math doesn't apply but I would have thought with all the good gains we've seen from these mods individually that there would be more than a ~25hp gain total.

To the OP, nice numbers and nice Z.

The old rule we sometimes hear that "the whole is equal to the sum of the individual parts" does NOT hold for mods. With modding the whole usually does not equal the sum of the individual mods. It all depends on how well the design of each manufacturer's part plays in combo with another manufacturer's part design. I have had times when one CAI and exhaust combo made 27 HP and then I switched out just the axle-back and actually lost 8 HP but gained about 6 ft-lbs in TQ. Some mod combos work well with each other and some don't so that is why one cannot rely on any "sum of the parts" rule.

For me I just wait and read the results of other people who spend their cash looking for "power" nirvanna. Once I read about a certain combo that shows great gains for someone that is the one I usually go for. But I also understand that putting this particular combo on my car isn't a guarantee that on my car it will show the same results as the person I read about. It just means that the odds are in my favor that the results will be spot-on or near spot-on.

There is always a "crap-shoot" factor I stay aware of when doing a particular combination of mods so I don't get too disappointed if the results are less than proven by someone else.

Lug · 08-08-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

maybe someone can clear this up but it seems that when people dynoed individualy these mods that there were gains of 15+hp. However from what i've been seeing from people like you who have all these mods put on and then dynoed it seems the total hp gain from intake, exhuast, and hfc is around 25. I know ricer math doesn't apply but i would have thought with all the good gains we've seen from these mods individually that there would be more than a ~25hp gain total.

To the op, nice numbers and nice z.

307 - 273 = 34

280z/300zx · 08-08-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

307 - 273 = 34

I wasn't referring to the Headers and pulley that he added, that's why I only mentioned intake, exhaust, and HFC. Also I was using a rough estimate based off what others have gained from these three mods.

Lug · 08-08-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

I wasn't referring to the Headers and pulley that he added, that's why I only mentioned intake, exhaust, and HFC. Also I was using a rough estimate based off what others have gained from these three mods.

Oh, Gotcha ya. Ricer math would say about 30 to 35 on those parts so a real world 25 seems about right to me.

2theextreme · 08-22-2009, 02:59 PM

Well...got her dyno'ed again today. This time on a DynoDynamics machine. I expected it to be low so I was prepared for it. They dyno'ed it in 4th gear where I believe Altered used 5th gear. I asked about that and I was told the results would have probably been about +5 whp if it had been done in 5th gear.

Anywho.....heres the results along with my last DynoJet result:

DynoDynamics performed 22 August:

My last DynoJet result performed 7 August:

08-07-2009, 10:29 PM	#34 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	Impressive!!! you thought about a wetshot for another 100 whp? __________________ Project *NISMO*

08-08-2009, 12:11 AM	#36 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Euro Tire in NJ, they are kinda famous for how good they are. They setup a ton of track Porsche's. I mean alot of places that do alignment can do balancing, but I guess some just do it alot better than others. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

08-22-2009, 02:59 PM	#45 (permalink)
2theextreme RIP Tony :( (1969-2015) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 18,802 Drives: '14 Mustang GT/CS Rep Power: 67	DynoDynamics results are in..... Well...got her dyno'ed again today. This time on a DynoDynamics machine. I expected it to be low so I was prepared for it. They dyno'ed it in 4th gear where I believe Altered used 5th gear. I asked about that and I was told the results would have probably been about +5 whp if it had been done in 5th gear. Anywho.....heres the results along with my last DynoJet result: DynoDynamics performed 22 August: My last DynoJet result performed 7 August: __________________ SpinTech Mufflers, Airaid CAI, JBA H-Pipe, Lethal Performance Over Axle Pipes, MMD Quarter Panel Louvers, Cervini's Ram Air Type IV Hood, Carbon Fiber Radiator Cover, GT500 Rear Valance, Quad Exhaust Tips

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*NEW* Dyno results are in....

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