Which stock cars can take us?

dirTy_shoeZ · 09-11-2013, 01:13 PM

currently im stock with an e85 tune, and this Z doesn't get beat by srt8 challengers anymore

synolimit · 09-11-2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirTy_shoeZ

currently im stock with an e85 tune, and this Z doesn't get beat by srt8 challengers anymore

Solely E85, what'd that do for you with no turbo to increase boost? I can't see a few degrees of timing being worth the extra effort. Have you pulled the fuel pump lately?

my2004Z · 09-11-2013, 03:11 PM

OP, you are going to have a hard time getting an apples to apples comparison from this crowd. You should narrow it down very specifically.

For example:
CRITERIA:
Engine =V6, Inline 6 or Flat 6
Engine Technology = Internal Combustion Engine
Fuel = High Quality North American Gasoline
Forced Induction = No
Drive Train = RWD
Engine Location = Front
Transmission = Manual, Automatic, or Manumatic
Trim = Base, Sport, or Specialty Model
Year in Production = First, Second, or Third Year
Price Range = $25K - $55K
Weight of Car = <3500 lbs, >3500 lbs

These are all key factors when comparing cars and performance / value. I really like the fact that it took several years for any cars in the $30K range to catch up to the performance value that the Z brought to the table back in late 2008.

DavidInIndy · 09-11-2013, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my2004Z

OP, you are going to have a hard time getting an apples to apples comparison from this crowd. You should narrow it down very specifically.

For example:
CRITERIA:
Engine =V6, Inline 6 or Flat 6
Engine Technology = Internal Combustion Engine
Fuel = High Quality North American Gasoline
Forced Induction = No
Drive Train = RWD
Engine Location = Front
Transmission = Manual, Automatic, or Manumatic
Trim = Base, Sport, or Specialty Model
Year in Production = First, Second, or Third Year
Price Range = $25K - $55K
Weight of Car = <3500 lbs, >3500 lbs

These are all key factors when comparing cars and performance / value. I really like the fact that it took several years for any cars in the $30K range to catch up to the performance value that the Z brought to the table back in late 2008.

Yep. Agreed on your extra categories.

binary0x01 · 09-11-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidInIndy

I've seen comments in various threads about certain cars that can outrun a Z in the 1/4 mile. So here are my conditions before I make a list:

excludes "super cars," such as Lexus LFA, Lambos, etc.
must have stock/base manufacturer equipment
naturally aspirated (- i.e. no turbos)
same year, like 2011 vs 2011 for instance

Maybe I'm leaving out some things (feel free to add more exclusions) but here's a list based on things I've seen posted:

BMW M series (not SUV's obviously)
Mustang GT and above (that was for my neighbor who has a Cobra)
Porsche 911
can't think of any non-turbo Audi's but I'm sure there are some

If we account for similarity in price (let's put the Z at 40K), I would think it would be only the Mustang GT that would take us, right? Again, I'm only talking about a 1/4 mi sprint.

I know I'm missing some cars and I'm not trying to put myself out there as a car expert...not at all. I just drive and come across certain cars and wonder "I bet I could take him." Thx.

Note: And yes, please feel free to switch in Nismo Z to represent the Z if you'd like...just to make things interesting.

All except 911 don't matter to me, I wouldn't pay to ride in any of them

so it doesn't matter if they're faster.

Jordo! · 09-11-2013, 04:46 PM

I'm more interested in what the next Z will offer out of the box...

Our car model is about ready to retire. 3 years or so and counting... I love it, but I'm already looking towards the next iteration.

jpkirk · 09-12-2013, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidInIndy

Aaahhh...good to know.

Kinda funny...with how beefy the Camaros are, I thought for sure we could take them. Whenever I chat cars with my neighbor (Mr. Cobra), he voluntarily says that he thinks my car (roadster = the "slow" Z) could take his if it was a track where handling/cornering was involved.

Curious what everybody thought of that comment by him.

I think a 2013 Camaro SS with the 1LE package would beat it up. R&T pulled 1.09 g's on a skid pad with one. It's heavier with 90+ more hp.

jk

Lug · 09-13-2013, 06:40 PM

The JUKE-R

L33T Z34 · 09-15-2013, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Anything that traps higher than 110 is going to beat a stock 370 in the 1/4.

LOL! Correction...Anything that traps higher than 104 mph is gonna BEE+ U stock 4 stock...that's how it is @ my local quarter track anywayz...

luigi90210 · 09-15-2013, 03:40 AM

a viper SRT10 will smoke our cars, corvettes will smoke our cars, porsche 911 N/A will smoke our cars

and those are not really exotic cars, imo

DLSTR · 09-15-2013, 06:20 AM

These threads/comparo's are useless. Drive what you like and enjoy the ride. Why just a 1/4mi. How about 1 mile etc. Speed is much more than some short distance to begin with. The Z is not a 1/4 machine to begin with and nor are most cars. Its an arbitrary measure with no basis in reality.

Its amazing how quickly this car gets to 190kph+ on the Autobahn(120mph). Thats way more fun

If a guy in his 360 Ferrari or 911 Carrera S is faster whatever. He paid way more to do that marginally faster. Its amazing what this car can do at that price point without the amazingly COSTLY maintenance some other marque's need.!!

Nailzs · 09-15-2013, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210

a viper SRT10 will smoke our cars, corvettes will smoke our cars, porsche 911 N/A will smoke our cars

and those are not really exotic cars, imo

Unless you're buying insurance for them.

critical · 09-15-2013, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirTy_shoeZ

currently im stock with an e85 tune, and this Z doesn't get beat by srt8 challengers anymore

did you just get bigger injectors? curious what you did and what you dynod at because running e85 should just allow you to advance timing.

nmjaxx9 · 09-15-2013, 02:25 PM

A GTR. Oh to soon?

09-11-2013, 04:46 PM	#51 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	I'm more interested in what the next Z will offer out of the box... Our car model is about ready to retire. 3 years or so and counting... I love it, but I'm already looking towards the next iteration. Redglare and MagmaRed370z like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

09-13-2013, 06:40 PM	#53 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	The JUKE-R __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

09-15-2013, 03:40 AM	#55 (permalink)
luigi90210 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,103 Drives: Classified Rep Power: 15	a viper SRT10 will smoke our cars, corvettes will smoke our cars, porsche 911 N/A will smoke our cars and those are not really exotic cars, imo __________________ SOLD 370z New Car:classified DD:2011 Mini Cooper S stock

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dirTy_shoeZ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 778 Drives: 40th ANN TT Rep Power: 16	currently im stock with an e85 tune, and this Z doesn't get beat by srt8 challengers anymore

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my2004Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 285 Drives: 09' 370Z w/Sport 7AT Rep Power: 37	OP, you are going to have a hard time getting an apples to apples comparison from this crowd. You should narrow it down very specifically. For example: CRITERIA: Engine =V6, Inline 6 or Flat 6 Engine Technology = Internal Combustion Engine Fuel = High Quality North American Gasoline Forced Induction = No Drive Train = RWD Engine Location = Front Transmission = Manual, Automatic, or Manumatic Trim = Base, Sport, or Specialty Model Year in Production = First, Second, or Third Year Price Range = $25K - $55K Weight of Car = <3500 lbs, >3500 lbs These are all key factors when comparing cars and performance / value. I really like the fact that it took several years for any cars in the $30K range to catch up to the performance value that the Z brought to the table back in late 2008.

09-15-2013, 06:20 AM	#56 (permalink)
DLSTR A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Süd Germany Posts: 2,462 Drives: 21Supra 2.0/22 M240i Rep Power: 21267	These threads/comparo's are useless. Drive what you like and enjoy the ride. Why just a 1/4mi. How about 1 mile etc. Speed is much more than some short distance to begin with. The Z is not a 1/4 machine to begin with and nor are most cars. Its an arbitrary measure with no basis in reality. Its amazing how quickly this car gets to 190kph+ on the Autobahn(120mph). Thats way more fun If a guy in his 360 Ferrari or 911 Carrera S is faster whatever. He paid way more to do that marginally faster. Its amazing what this car can do at that price point without the amazingly COSTLY maintenance some other marque's need.!!

09-15-2013, 02:25 PM	#59 (permalink)
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