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Cbtech 09-08-2013 09:34 PM

Stuck on the freeway
 
well yet another story of the Z and the infamous fuel starvation...*sigh* I am right now sitting on the side of the freeway on ramp and stuck because of this godforsaken fuel starvation buIIshit. you think "I got 5-6 dots I'm good it shouldn't be an issue here" and then she slowly starts to choke out and fade away. so now I'm here, thinking that I was going to be early, and waiting to get some fuel delivered instead.

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GaleForce 09-08-2013 09:39 PM

That sucks! Hope you don't have to wait too long.

Z370Z011 09-08-2013 09:41 PM

Dam, id be pissed if i was on my way to work. Where were you heading if you don't mind me asking?

DEpointfive0 09-08-2013 09:43 PM

If you're going to be taking a right turn, that hard, and you've had this happen before... Why don't you just avoid it by going 10 MPH slower?


I realize it's a REALLY DUMB problem due I a design flaw, but the flaw is there and you know about it, just don't do it. I can't sympathize with it anymore... Sorry brother, but I hope you can get going sooner than later

axmea? 09-08-2013 09:44 PM

Good luck with the repairs. Keep us posted on your dealership experience. I love hard right turns and would hate it if it ever happens.

Jbwrecked 09-08-2013 09:47 PM

Had it happen to me a couple times already and I was able to get it to turn over after waiting about 5 minutes. Then get out of the car, lock it, unlock it, then open and close the door about 5-6 times or so. I was told it resets the fuel pump when you do that and allows for more fuel to be circulated. Then just hit the start button and it might work.

First time it happened to me I had about 3 dots and it didn't turn over until someone brought me more gas. Second time I had about 5 maybe 6 dots and then it worked. Good luck to whoever else encounters this damn problem :icon14:

Felix 808 09-08-2013 09:50 PM

Sorry to hear.

Has anyone tried to get a recall petitioned for this issue? Here is a link to the NHTSA https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

synolimit 09-08-2013 10:57 PM

I wanna install a fuel cell, plumb it into the top of the tank. When fuel cut happens, flip a switch.

Mt Tam I am 09-08-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2478340)
well yet another story of the Z and the infamous fuel starvation...*sigh* I am right now sitting on the side of the freeway on ramp and stuck because of this godforsaken fuel starvation buIIshit. you think "I got 5-6 dots I'm good it shouldn't be an issue here" and then she slowly starts to choke out and fade away. so now I'm here, thinking that I was going to be early, and waiting to get some fuel delivered instead.


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you think "I got 5-6 dots I'm good it shouldn't be an issue here"

No Way! I start thinking about this at 8 dots.

2xtreme1 09-08-2013 11:03 PM

Once it Chokes out or whatever you, do you have enough time and speed to pull over to the side ? O,o

122554 09-09-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2478349)
If you're going to be taking a right turn, that hard, and you've had this happen before... Why don't you just avoid it by going 10 MPH slower?


I realize it's a REALLY DUMB problem due I a design flaw, but the flaw is there and you know about it, just don't do it. I can't sympathize with it anymore... Sorry brother, but I hope you can get going sooner than later

Have to agree! You know there's a problem, and then you bitch when it happens!

So who's the idiot?

///PureSwank 09-09-2013 12:55 AM

This is ******* retarded. Why does nissan sell them like that? Was there a recall? Can you get it fixed by the dealer for free for having this problem? Can you sue them for this? It's like buying a new item and paying for it when its got a trick up its sleave and something is defective.

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cossie1600 09-09-2013 12:55 AM

Yeah ok, can't wait to see that happen to you guys

cossie1600 09-09-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2478474)
This is ******* retarded. Why does nissan sell them like that? Was there a recall? Can you get it fixed by the dealer for free for having this problem? Can you sue them for this? It's like buying a new item and paying for it when its got a trick up its sleave and something is defective.

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I have nearly been rear ended merging onto the 101. It's definitely a design flaw. Unfortunately you have too many guys who think the problem is the driver and not the car. I can hit fuel starve without breaking the speed limit

DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2478475)
Yeah ok, can't wait to see that happen to you guys

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shake on me.




And I'd like to edit a bit, if this is the first time it's happened to CBTech, no prob, I read it as it happened to him several times.

DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2478477)
I have nearly been rear ended merging onto the 101. It's definitely a design flaw. Unfortunately you have too many guys who think the problem is the driver and not the car. I can hit fuel starve without breaking the speed limit

It IS a design flaw, but if you know it's there, why wouldn't you avoid it?

I KNOW tasers hurt, but I keep playing with one

///PureSwank 09-09-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2478486)
It IS a design flaw, but if you know it's there, why wouldn't you avoid it?

I KNOW tasers hurt, but I keep playing with one

Why does he have to avoid it when he bought and payed for a car that isnt suppose to brake down on him and leave him stranded. How about nissan gets there **** together and fix this problem via recall. Or money back.

I payed for 4 tires but only 3 work.

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cossie1600 09-09-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2478486)
It IS a design flaw, but if you know it's there, why wouldn't you avoid it?

I KNOW tasers hurt, but I keep playing with one

My daily commute is 45 miles, burns up a little more than 2.5 gallons per day. I can hit fuel starve 5 gallons into a fuel load. So you saying I need to fill up every two days in order to avoid fuel starve or roll onto the highway backward to avoid the right turns? Sorry I have to work and I have family to see, I am not wasting time pumping every two days. It's clearly a design flaw. Guys who have never experienced always talk trash. As if it is not bad enough to spend 30k on a car to have the steering lock failing, now you add this to the mix and it just makes it more fun.

Oh yeah there is the motherfucking clutch bearing that makes more noise than the engine, should I keep my foot on the clutch at all times to avoid the noise too?

DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2478497)
Why does he have to avoid it when he bought and payed for a car that isnt suppose to brake down on him and leave him stranded. How about nissan gets there **** together and fix this problem via recall. Or money back.

I payed for 4 tires but only 3 work.

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I don't mean to argue with anyone here honestly, I respect 99.999999% of all of you, and I hope no one is taking it as that, just trying to have a conversation. (Not trying to single you out PureSwank, just saying in general)


Why do I have to avoid doing 5 autoX runs in a row because my power steering fluid will boil, why can't I drive the car hard without the oil boiling over in 5 minutes, why does the brake fluid boil so quickly that the car won't stop on a track? Why does my clutch get spongy and stick after a few track days, even under normal aggressive driving, how shítty is this CSC?


Lets break it down, power steering fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users, oil doesn't get to 260+ for 99% of users, and brake fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users.
The "oil cooler" and brake fluid "upgrades" were done YEARS after the car was released, and mainly due to bad press, and the bad press for the brake fluid and pads was from 2009!
They make cars for the 99%, not the 1% who are very aggressive drivers or who are more comfortable taking a long banking right at like 50MPH with 3-5 gallons of the tank left of a 19 gallon tank.

Recall, I doubt, I'd put money against, until every member calls 1-800-Nissan1 and says they're stuck on a freeway on ramp, then maybe. Until then, hell no.
(Mike, if you read this, I respect you more than a lot of other members, but when you got fuel starve at 15 out of 16 dots, that doesn't mean anything to me personally, I know my gauge, (if it ever shows full) takes almost 100 miles to drop a dot, and you get 4-5MPG on the track, meaning you filled it and within 5-6 miles you fuel starved)

Why aren't we trying to fight a more prevalent problem like the CSC that is made of plastic and gives out anywhere from 10-50k miles. And that requires the transmission to be dropped? What about, the fuel gauge issue, does ANYONE's work properly? Better yet still!!! What about the shítty paint?!?!?! Why do I have to put ugly clear bra on my car for $1000 when I just spent $40k on a car? Recall? Buy back?
The clear bra costs as much as the fix for the fuel pump, and you might be able to install it yourself, while the clear bra takes more finesse, but no one is gunning for Nissan for that. (All I'm saying is that if we're holding them accountable for this $1000, or that $1000 or that $500 or whatnot, make sure you hold them accountable for ALLLLLLLL the problems)

I think the CSC problem way more a PIA than fuel starve, and didn't someone fix fuel starve with a coffee can?

So, recall, I doubt, TSB, I doubt unless people complain enough, even then, I don't see a solution (maybe change the fuel pump if it had been run dry a few times)

Guys, see if from a cost/business point of view, it isn't worth the money to do a recall, if it effects 100 people Nissan doesn't give a fùck, they have bigger fish to fry. It isn't the majority, and it will take so much more money to fix, it isn't worth the hassle, plain and simple. Now, if you want to argue with me that why would Nissan NOT want to appease customers, again, it isn't worth the money, and as a company, NISSAN doesn't NEED you, the dealer might want you, but Nissan doesn't need you, sorry to break it to you guys like that.



Going forward, want a solution, call corporate, tell them you fuel starved, get everyone on the forum to do so, MAYYYYBE you'll get that TSB. (This is a hypothetical, and GOD FORBID it happens to anyone here, but) Want your recall quickly, fuel starve and get killed or badly injured and have it on the news, that'll get a recall quick, remember the Toyota thing that wasn't even Toyota's fault? They got the recall in a week (the guy was lying btw)


Again, not trying to be the àsshole here, I'd buy you all a beer if I could (I bought a beer for a member who I've never talked to because I saw on the calendar that it was his birthday, lol), you're all considered family in my books. I'm just calling it the way I see it.

DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 03:08 AM

Cossie, PM'd

Elan 09-09-2013 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2478514)
Lets break it down, power steering fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users, oil doesn't get to 260+ for 99% of users, and brake fluid doesn't boil for 99% of users.
The "oil cooler" and brake fluid "upgrades" were done YEARS after the car was released, and mainly due to bad press, and the bad press for the brake fluid and pads was from 2009!
They make cars for the 99%, not the 1% who are very aggressive drivers or who are more comfortable taking a long banking right at like 50MPH with 3-5 gallons of the tank left of a 19 gallon tank.

This.:iagree:
I usually fill up around 3 dots, but I have taken to 1 a few times (not proud of that) and I have never had an issue with fuel starvation. If you drive like an F1 driver, then don't go below half to 1/4 of a tank. Simple as that. It is a 19 gallon tank after all.

DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2478518)
This.:iagree:
I usually fill up around 3 dots, but I have taken to 1 a few times (not proud of that) and I have never had an issue with fuel starvation. If you drive like an F1 driver, then don't go below half to 1/4 of a tank. Simple as that. It is a 19 gallon tank after all.

People, like Cossie say that they can hit fuel starve after 5 gallons used, so 14 to go.
(again, not trying to single people out, it's just an example on this page)

///PureSwank 09-09-2013 03:17 AM

I agree. And its a sad fact. I know that if something were to happen like that to me for no damn reason and i dont auto cross or track, but ended up stranded in some highway because of THIS issue. Nissan and the dealership would have a hell of a fight coming too them. WWIII Type of ****.

I'll take the beer though. Ship to 513 area code.


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DEpointfive0 09-09-2013 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ///PureSwank (Post 2478521)
I agree. And its a sad fact. I know that if something were to happen like that to me for no damn reason and i dont auto cross or track, but ended up stranded in some highway because of THIS issue. Nissan and the dealership would have a hell of a fight coming too them. WWIII Type of ****.


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Honestly, do it, give them hell if you want to invest the time, lie and call corporate, if a solution is going to occur, it will happen because you and others call in.

Need help, or pointers or suggestions when calling, my number is whore'd out alllllllll over the forum, call or text me (text preferred, then I'll call you, or leave a message, I don't pick up unknown numbers)

onzedge 09-09-2013 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2478340)
well yet another story of the Z and the infamous fuel starvation...*sigh* I am right now sitting on the side of the freeway on ramp and stuck because of this godforsaken fuel starvation buIIshit. you think "I got 5-6 dots I'm good it shouldn't be an issue here" and then she slowly starts to choke out and fade away. so now I'm here, thinking that I was going to be early, and waiting to get some fuel delivered instead.

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:icon14:

roy'sz 09-09-2013 07:01 AM

If they would have just put a 1/4 in tube to balance fuel level on both sides of the tank we would never have this problem...ever! Too bad when they redesigned these they didnt' keep the same tank as the 350.

Wonka2581 09-09-2013 07:09 AM

God I hope they dont lock this thread....:drama:

kenchan 09-09-2013 07:30 AM

Sorry to hear CB. :(


I bought a new maytag fridge for 1500 and it broke in 6 months needing a new compressor.
I was the idiot for buying a maytag. :shakes head: maytag, you f-king suck! :mad:

1st 09-09-2013 09:40 AM

Cbtech you should have text bro. If I’m not mistaken that’s right buy Centerfolds 20 min away from me. I would have helped out a fellow stranded Z. So what ended up happening what’s the outcome.

onzedge 09-09-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2478598)
Sorry to hear CB. :(


I bought a new maytag fridge for 1500 and it broke in 6 months needing a new compressor.
I was the idiot for buying a maytag. :shakes head: maytag, you f-king suck! :mad:

:icon14:

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7speed 09-09-2013 10:10 AM

Damn sorry to hear this happened to you at 5-6 dots. That's at least 100 miles to go on a tank. I'm not sure what kind of turns you guys are taking or how fast. But with that much fuel it is definatley an issue, and I"ll say it again if they put out recall for Quest for this, why not the Z? (Quest is more so software issue)

On a side note... I've driven Z with blanked out miles and 1 dot. Commen sense no matter what car I'm in, I'm not driving aggressive so I can conserve as much fuel as possible in those situations.

OldGuy 09-09-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elan (Post 2478518)
This.:iagree:
I usually fill up around 3 dots, but I have taken to 1 a few times (not proud of that) and I have never had an issue with fuel starvation. If you drive like an F1 driver, then don't go below half to 1/4 of a tank. Simple as that. It is a 19 gallon tank after all.

We get Fuel Perks here, giving us a one time deep discount on a gas purchase for their one time use. Thus, I let the tank go to NO dots to be able to buy as much deeply discounted fuel as possible. Thankfully, I've never had a problem and have done this often. Maybe the key is to drive gently under such circumstances---which I generally do.

Cbtech 09-09-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2478348)
Dam, id be pissed if i was on my way to work. Where were you heading if you don't mind me asking?

I was on my way to soccer and i was leaving early so i had enough time to stretch being old and all.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 2xtreme1 (Post 2478401)
Once it Chokes out or whatever you, do you have enough time and speed to pull over to the side ? O,o

I was able to keep up speed while it started to choke so i could roll off to the side of the road. if this is to ever happen again im going to put it in neutral and do sharp left zigzag turns to slosh the gas to the right side of the tank.



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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2478481)
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

And I'd like to edit a bit, if this is the first time it's happened to CBtech, no prob, I read it as it happened to him several times.

This actually happened to me once before and the car was on 3 dots at the time. That time the car started after about 5 mins. This time it would not start at all after showing 5-6 dots.



Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st (Post 2478755)
Cbtech you should have text bro. If I’m not mistaken that’s right buy Centerfolds 20 min away from me. I would have helped out a fellow stranded Z. So what ended up happening what’s the outcome.

Hey man I was right there by Centerfolds heading up to Folsom but i didn't get your text (appreciate it though). Luckily my ex and I play on the same soccer team so she was able to stop and get me gas.

1st 09-09-2013 12:59 PM

This is my first time seeing this thread this morning. If I would have known/seen it yesterday I would have text you first. I’m just saying I’m local you should have just hit me up. Anyways good to hear the X came to the rescue. :tup:

Cbtech 09-09-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st (Post 2479051)
This is my first time seeing this thread this morning. If I would have known/seen it yesterday I would have text you first. I’m just saying I’m local you should have just hit me up. Anyways good to hear the X came to the rescue. :tup:


my bad i read it as you sent me one. Still appreciate it man :tup:

kenchan 09-09-2013 01:07 PM

i should seriously consider buying a 3gal gas tank and keep it in the garage.

then if this shitt happens to me, i can call the wife and ask her to fill the tank and bring it over. :tup:

thanks for the tip.

onzedge 09-09-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2479080)
i should seriously consider buying a 3gal gas tank and keep it in the garage.

then if this shitt happens to me, i can call the wife and ask her to fill the tank and bring it over. :tup:

thanks for the tip.

:tup:

Cbtech 09-09-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2479144)
are there spouts long enought for our Z's? :confused:

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Amazon.com : No-Spill 1405 2-1/2-Gallon Poly Gas Can (CARB Compliant) : Lawn Garden Tool Gas Cans : Patio, Lawn & Garden


or shall i be looking at something like this?

Justrite AccuFlow 7250120 Type II Galvanized Steel Safety Can with 5/8" Flexible Spout, 5 Gallons Capacity, Red: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

my gas can had a spout like this one

Amazon.com: Scepter ECO Jerry Can with Child Resistant Closures (5-Gallon, Military Style): Sports & Outdoors

and it worked just fine.

kenchan 09-09-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2479272)

thanks, cb. :tup:

wooops, i accidentally deleted my post when i wanted to add the spout info. lol. :icon17:

so i got the 2.5gal No-spill and their 206 flex spout. :tup: will keep it empty in my garage until the day i need my wife's help. :p actually, my wife tends to drive her car nearly on fumes often so i've been thinking of getting one anyway. kill 2 birds with one tank. :tup:

Cbtech 09-09-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2479281)
thanks, cb. :tup:

wooops, i accidentally deleted my post when i wanted to add the spout info. lol. :icon17:

so i got the 2.5gal No-spill and their 206 flex spout. :tup: will keep it empty in my garage until the day i need my wife's help. :p actually, my wife tends to drive her car nearly on fumes often so i've been thinking of getting one anyway. kill 2 birds with one tank. :tup:

Good to have one around. I had mine for the lawn mower but got a lawn service now so never use it anymore.


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