I got pulled over for running yellow light, but weird thing happened?

fonzo179

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dudesky

Like what olddudesrule said, I will pay it and move on, but it really depends on what theDreamer said, the fine for the ticket. If it is like $300 or more, I def need to fight for it. and theDreamer, do you know anyone who can do $75 flat for my ticket (if I get it) in NJ area? thanks

fonzo179

*Looks at the "Welcome to California" sign near Barstow*
Sure, thanks for the warm reception.

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dudesky

and, last August, I had 2 points on my license, and now it is September after a year passed. I heard 2 or 3 points go away if I had no moving violations within that one year, which I never had. So I'm guessing I have a clean record??

theDreamer

I don't know any in the NJ area, sorry.
You might hit up the local section on the forum here and ask.

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fonzo179

I hope so, brother. When I got my ticket just south of Seattle back in 2011 (47 in a 35), they dropped it from my record because I went 6 months without getting pulled over.

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dudesky

Nice!!! I really hope that mine got dropped too! it has been more than a year for me so hopely mine is dropped! I went to DMV website to get my point record and they are asking $39.99 for an instant record print out and I was like uhhh...no thanks...$40 my a$$...

dudesky

got it, thanks brother!

blackcherry20

If you are still unsure if the ticket was actually issued go to, or call, the courthouse records office or the sheriffs office and find out what is going on.

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Go to court and ask the DA personally (if record is clean) to either dismiss or drop to a defective vehicle...(aka taillight out, headlight....). Tell them your story and go from there...no cost to you and looks better cause you're trying to be honest and say there was no need to hire a lawer to prove your case. Good luck buddy!!

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dudesky

I was actually planning to do that! I'm going to wait maybe another 2~3days and call them. Thanks!

dudesky

Thank you so much for the informative solution!!!

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Don't just pay it if you don't have too and you feel are not guilty. I try to plead down every (5 times now) ticket I have ever gotten in NJ and it works every time and I never used a traffic lawyer.

You likely got a "39:4-81 Failure to observe traffic signal $81 2 points"

My favorite plead down is "39:4-138(l) Improper parking alongside or opposite street excavation or $47 obstruction, causing traffic obstruction (when properly signposted)" + 33 dollar court fee. This carries no points, the state makes the same amount of money and insurance doesn't care at all about them.

NJ just wants your money but doesn't want to work for it. If you give them a even a little speed bump you can win. Call and setup a court date, get prepare to present your case (you have a good driving record you saw the light it was yellow, were not speeding, couldn't stop in time, yellow light is too short for the posted speed limit, etc). On the court date be sure to speak to the prosecutor before the case, you will be provided the chance that day. Present your case the him/her. If offered don't accept a plea to unsafe driving it comes with too many other fines and fees, unsafe driving is only worth it for major fines. 39:4-138 makes them the same money if you just paid the ticket. If they don't let you plea to that or something with the same fine with no points only then just pay the ticket right then and there. Or fight it if you want. Yellow lights should be 1 second for ever 10 mph posted speed limit, you can time the light and fight with clear facts it if the light is not calibrated correctly.

The reason why you should always fight point tickets?
The NJ DM Point system isn't that bad but NJ also have another point system you probably do know about.

Car Insurance Points. CIP
With 12 DMV points you lose your license but with just 7 CIP in 3 years a NJ insurance can drop you because you are considered an at risk driver. And if you can't get a new insurance policy through the preferred market you will have to get one from the high risk market. And unlike DMV points which go down every year, CIP points do not get removed for 3 years from the date of the ticket.

I'm no expert on this point system but it seems bad enough I will go out of my way a little to avoid it.

Link with CIP point schedule because it doesn't exactly follow the DMV point schedule.
http://njpaip.com/nj-mvc-dmv-insurancepoints.html

phohman

Im with Matt If u didnt sign anything your not "guilty" of anything!

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