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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh Oh yea, I remember when people thought the Z wasn't shite. Oh how things change. I don't think the z is shyt. We just have a

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Old 01-17-2013, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Oh yea, I remember when people thought the Z wasn't shite. Oh how things change.

I don't think the z is shyt. We just have a few fanboys that switched brands that have the power of influence on our cars.

Also No one is realistic about the Z. When i say the Z's real competitor is the 3.7 mustang when comparing to a mustang GT 5.0. I get responses that are like saying my comparison is bullyish and unfair. but stats are stats, and that's how we pin cars against each other in the interim.

if the 3.7 mustang is
305hp/280lbs tq, weighs 3400lbs,is rwd, offers manual and auto
If the Genesis coupe 3.8, is
348hp/290lbs tq 3400lbs, rwd, offers manual and auto.
And the Z is
332hp/270lbs tq,3300lbs, rwd and auto and manual.

All are v6's all are close in price to the Z if you stick with Base/Sport on the z vs the loaded versions of these cars. The car is designed to be the superior V6. NOT A V8.

while the Z has power that compares to a Dodge challenger R/T and the pre-genration mustang 4.6 and pontiac GTO. Its still a v6.

too many people have expected the Z to be miraculously fast car against V8's based on its v6 superiority.

It's like looking at the half glass full than half empty... Instead of seeing the Z is faster than ALL N/A v6 to $50k and a few turbo v6's. BMW135i & 335i. they choose to say, look it's NOT faster than a V8.

When you're mentality is like that? You're a either a Fanboi or a Jocker. People choose to look at things a certain way for ego, and not factual substance...

Fact is, the Z is a V6. I don't pin it against BRZ's or 5.0's. Because of that, I'm clear as to what i have without having to compare TOTALLY DIFFERENT "purpose built cars against mine.
The porsche cayman is purpose built to my Z... Know why it's $25k more asis from more refined porsche feel through better materials. MR. That said, the Z and Cayman are the closest competitors.
If people were realistic, they'd know the Z stands independent and is a Tried and True sports car.

C&D,ALSO easily influenced the train of thought of people. Shows how independent minded most are.

PS for some odd reason the Z is rated 332hp in the US and 326hp outland. And that's not a PS rating, it's hp.
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if the 3.7 mustang is
305hp/280lbs tq, weighs 3400lbs,is rwd, offers manual and auto
If the Genesis coupe 3.8, is
348hp/290lbs tq 3400lbs, rwd, offers manual and auto.
And the Z is
332hp/270lbs tq,3300lbs, rwd and auto and manual.
When you compare the Z to those cars it definitely appears overpriced, which is why the v8/turbo4 comparisons start popping up.


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C&D,ALSO easily influenced the train of thought of people. Shows how independent minded most are.

This is what I was originally referring to.
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When you compare the Z to those cars it definitely appears overpriced, which is why the v8/turbo4 comparisons start popping up.





This is what I was originally referring to.
Not really overpriced when you compare the terribly advanced performance over the latter. The 3.8 track does pose a kind of "How much are we really getting for our dollar?" question. But the 3.8 build quality and chassis rigidity isn't as good as ours. Remember we have Rays Forged wheels that in actually are probably worth as much as we get the whole sport pkg. The gencoupe gets Alloys. lol But there computer tech, power seats and bumpin system take over in the value dept.
VVEL like it or not, was groundbreaking, SRM and our 7AT's were 3 levels above in the world of slushboxes. We have some of the pricier suspension set ups in the range. a lot of our value is seen under the hood.

2013 pricing took the Z to the point of ridiculousness. And furthermore, that refresh, weather you think is nice or not? Was a slap in the face when you factor in the slowness of improvements on the Z. Even 8 more hp and a new map or exhaust would have at least made the 13 price increases, not justifiable, but excusable.

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