My old Silvia S15 that I had before my Z had no problems keeping up with the 370. It wouldn't worry me going to a turbo 4.
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While the Z doesn't have any particular 6 cylinder configuration. Having 6 cylinder in any configuration is tradition. I'm hoping to either see a serious weight reduction on the 6 power plant as well as chassis weight or break the 6 tradition for a well engineered turbo 4. I would break tradition of the 6 for an ultra-modern turbo 4.
The render op posted is as relevant as a C&D article. Nissan never really leaks anything more than there rough sketch drawings when it comes to the Z. When they have a masked pre-production Z. That will be our first true hint at the next Z. The render isn't horrible but like the C7 corvette. That render has too many forced lines.
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lol codenamed z35. that's not freaking coded.
author probably pulled stuff out of thin air.
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I don't have a problem with a 2.5 turbo 4. The problem I have is that in order to make it powerful enough for the Z name it will come strung out from the factory leaving little to be done with basic bolt-on's. In order to get more power owners will have to change out the turbo and all components. The great thing about turbos is that basic mods will yield good results, but if the engine is already maxed out there won't be much to gain. A 330hp 2.5 won't leave a lot of room on the table. I'd honestly rather than go to something like a 3.0 V6 twin turbo like the old Z32. With todays technology a small V6 twin turbo will not only make good power but it will still get good gas mileage. No need to drop to a 4 cylinder. Not to mention I don't want to have to rev the hell out of the car every time I go up a hill or want to pass someone. Loved my old 06 WRX but it just didn't have that low rpm power. Torque is something the current Z is already missing, going to a turbo 4 won't help matters.
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Everyone would rather see a smaller v6 turbo instead of a 4, but I doubt they would do it because it might feel like it's getting too close to the gt-r. I know it wouldn't be that close, but they want to keep the 2 cars very separate I think.
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I used to see that point but every year the GTR just keeps getting faster and more powerful. At this point even at it's current weight if they dropped in a 400hp motor it still would be far slower than the GTR. Even at it's proposed 2900lbs if it had a V6TT with ~400hp it would still be far slower than the GTR. Even a modified V6TT with 500hp would still be slower than the GTR simply because the Z lacks AWD. The simple fact is the Z won't come close to the GTR for that argument to hold water anymore. When the GTR was 80k and only had 480hp I could understand but at the current level of the GTR it's so above and beyond the Z that Nissan could give the Z some extra grunt without worry.
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Of course it would still be slower, but the not enthusiast car buying public might look at pure hp potential numbers and decide it is close enough to not spend triple the money on the GT-. Whether that is true or not, I don't know but Nissan would probably not want the Z to remotely be linked tot he GT-R in that regard. The most promising part of this article to me is the 400 lb weight reduction.
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Maybe they should up the GT-R to a v8 and give us our turbo 6, haha. Godzilla is about due for as well.
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There's no way to say that the motor is maxed out until some tuners get ahold of one and turn up the boost. It could be a beast of a motor that can take a lot of boost and punishment. It could be one of those that self destructs at factory power levels. We won't know until that first group of buyers blow theirs up. I'm not sure what you did to your WRX, but my 04 STI had 380 ft/lbs of torque at 3400 rpm. It's not a Chevy 350, but that's still a lot of torque. Between that much torque under 4k rpm and the fact that is spooled up quick, you didn't really have to rev it much to pass someone. I want the Z to remain a V6, but a turbo 4 would be fine too if the 2900 lb curb weight happened. Given how poorly the Z sells, I seriously doubt they're going to go too far from an engine that's shared across platforms. They're not going to reinvent the wheel for a car that's been selling <10k units annually. My guess is another revision of the VQ, maybe with DI, and a lighter chassis. To be honest, I'm kinda shocked we're getting a Z35 given how badly the Z34 has sold.
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