New Z an improvement? What do you think?

XiP · 08-14-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Winn

Hope that's a photo shop joke..

ya i was bored

SharkBite · 08-14-2013, 08:49 PM

I think there will be engine options, and a name not designated by engine size. This is a complete, outlandish guess, but it seems most appropriate with Nissan's current pricing direction.

The 370z is clearly trying to becoming less of a high/middle class sports car. I could forsee a future where the Z has a more 'budget' iteration that can compete with the i4T Gencoupe and the new IRS v6 Mustang. I do however think that Nissan would maintain a powerful v6 in addition to the i4.

Just my 2 cents, that's the kind of design direction I imagine is being thrown around corporate Nissan right now.

6MT · 08-14-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Winn

Hope that's a photo shop joke..

Bahahahaha!!

luigi90210 · 08-14-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2

I would actually prefer the Z take a couple year hiatus, make a cheap BRZ competitor to make all the Silvia guys happy, and come back when the market is stronger.

Do you guys really want for something to one up your current Z?

id prefer if that not happen, if anything maybe offer a 400hp TT 370z, same VQ37 with lower compression, different tuning, low boost, ect.

this way that isnt pushing into GTR territory performance wise and we have a mid model refresh for the 370z and nissan can focus their resources on making a silvia again

ZBro16 · 08-15-2013, 01:48 PM

I have just finished reading my thread and will offer my two cents on the matter. I have weighed in on this before and more information has come to light since then.

First - people asking for a straight six. Straight sixes are dead. Sorry. There are way too many pros for an automaker with a V6/horizontally opposed build - required space in the engine bay is less, efficiency of the overall engine build for parts longevity, weight distribution, etc among others. Bring to light safety and crash testing requirements among others and there is zero reason for an I6 to exist, especially in Nissan's world. Remember, this is a company making supercar performance out of a 3.8L V6 TT.

Second - I'm slightly concerned about the Z getting an overhaul. I do not think it will happen. They haven't made enough money with the 370Z (I find the economy and Nissan's marketing arm to be at fault for this) to justify the spending for an overhaul of the car. Couple that with the call signs from Infiniti - the 3.7L is still in production and offered in the Q50. The Q50 is still built on Nissan's FM platform (the Z and G share this as well). They will not build a special platform for the Z, so we can nearly guarantee they will use the FM platform once more for the Z35.

So in light of these things, I will also wager that instead of offering the 3.7L, they will toss in the 3.5 Hybrid that is available in the Q50. This benefits Nissan in two ways.

First, the fuel economy of their sports car would increase pretty dramatically. This helps their CAFE average, leaving more wiggle room for the GT-R and the fullsized truck lineup. It's easy to market because they would be the first to do this in a mass market sports car. It's perfectly inline with what Nissan is trying to accomplish as a company. The increase in fuel economy makes the price more justifiable (on the highway, it would make what the BRZ makes, and it would have 75% more power). The car will still make performance car numbers.

Second, the electric motor will cure a lot of the woes currently present in the 3.7L V6. While the Q50 Hybrid doesn't quite seem like much of a performer, the Z will be because of how it will be built. They can further tune the motor more towards performance as opposed to the Q50. They can offer a manual transmission as the VQ35 has already been built for such. You won't run into the oil temperature issues of the 3.7. Having an electric motor coupled to it will dramatically increase low end torque (it will be instantly available), which many people have complained about.

This is probably the route Nissan will take. They can't afford to do a 370Z redux, but they can't afford to make a baby-GT-R out of the Z.

Will I buy one? I have ZERO interest in hybrid technology, but if they do it right, I may consider. If they make it as aesthetically pleasing to my eye as, say, an Aventador? I probably will pull out my VPP and rock one.

If it looks like that Esflow abomination? Let's just say I'll stay in my 2013.

10MPlayer · 08-15-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z

eeew

2016 Nissan 370 Z | The Best Cars

That's a fugly car. Glad I bought when I did.

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SharkBite Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Alamo Posts: 24 Drives: '09 370z Coupe Rep Power: 12	I think there will be engine options, and a name not designated by engine size. This is a complete, outlandish guess, but it seems most appropriate with Nissan's current pricing direction. The 370z is clearly trying to becoming less of a high/middle class sports car. I could forsee a future where the Z has a more 'budget' iteration that can compete with the i4T Gencoupe and the new IRS v6 Mustang. I do however think that Nissan would maintain a powerful v6 in addition to the i4. Just my 2 cents, that's the kind of design direction I imagine is being thrown around corporate Nissan right now. __________________ 09 6MT T/S Takeda Long Tube, FI Non-Res Y-Pipe, ARK Exhaust Knockoff, K&W V1 Coils, Nismo Rear, Stillen Sides/Front, Enkei RPF1

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08-15-2013, 01:48 PM	#65 (permalink)
ZBro16 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 370 Drives: A Z. Rep Power: 13	I have just finished reading my thread and will offer my two cents on the matter. I have weighed in on this before and more information has come to light since then. First - people asking for a straight six. Straight sixes are dead. Sorry. There are way too many pros for an automaker with a V6/horizontally opposed build - required space in the engine bay is less, efficiency of the overall engine build for parts longevity, weight distribution, etc among others. Bring to light safety and crash testing requirements among others and there is zero reason for an I6 to exist, especially in Nissan's world. Remember, this is a company making supercar performance out of a 3.8L V6 TT. Second - I'm slightly concerned about the Z getting an overhaul. I do not think it will happen. They haven't made enough money with the 370Z (I find the economy and Nissan's marketing arm to be at fault for this) to justify the spending for an overhaul of the car. Couple that with the call signs from Infiniti - the 3.7L is still in production and offered in the Q50. The Q50 is still built on Nissan's FM platform (the Z and G share this as well). They will not build a special platform for the Z, so we can nearly guarantee they will use the FM platform once more for the Z35. So in light of these things, I will also wager that instead of offering the 3.7L, they will toss in the 3.5 Hybrid that is available in the Q50. This benefits Nissan in two ways. First, the fuel economy of their sports car would increase pretty dramatically. This helps their CAFE average, leaving more wiggle room for the GT-R and the fullsized truck lineup. It's easy to market because they would be the first to do this in a mass market sports car. It's perfectly inline with what Nissan is trying to accomplish as a company. The increase in fuel economy makes the price more justifiable (on the highway, it would make what the BRZ makes, and it would have 75% more power). The car will still make performance car numbers. Second, the electric motor will cure a lot of the woes currently present in the 3.7L V6. While the Q50 Hybrid doesn't quite seem like much of a performer, the Z will be because of how it will be built. They can further tune the motor more towards performance as opposed to the Q50. They can offer a manual transmission as the VQ35 has already been built for such. You won't run into the oil temperature issues of the 3.7. Having an electric motor coupled to it will dramatically increase low end torque (it will be instantly available), which many people have complained about. This is probably the route Nissan will take. They can't afford to do a 370Z redux, but they can't afford to make a baby-GT-R out of the Z. Will I buy one? I have ZERO interest in hybrid technology, but if they do it right, I may consider. If they make it as aesthetically pleasing to my eye as, say, an Aventador? I probably will pull out my VPP and rock one. If it looks like that Esflow abomination? Let's just say I'll stay in my 2013.