370Z Sport Package vs Mazdaspeed 3 GT vs S2000 vs Cayman S vs Mazda Rx-8

FricFrac · 08-05-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mook

Still, I think many people, including me, would prefer 370Z over GT-R for the street and not just because of the price difference.

I prefer the Z because of the $$ and the looks. Performance wise I'd rather have the GT-R but as others have explained they are a totally different class of car.... the GT-R is in super car territory with the Z06...

355890 · 08-05-2009, 05:16 PM

The Mazadaspeed 3 has big problems controling that enourmous torque to it's front wheels. Matter of fact the VW GTI does a much better job, albeit the MAZADASPEED 3 is probably faster.

The Z and the Mazadaspeed 3 are total two different types of cars that operate and handle totally different, so you can't compare.

PORSCHE CAYMAN S - I would still take this over a VIPER. It's not about how big you are, it's how you despense with the goods. Well

better yet, seeing we are in this territory, I might as well move up to a 911 GT3....

I love my Z ? After 2nd gear it's all good.

Robert_Nash · 08-05-2009, 05:33 PM

What a surprise; a guy who loves the S2000 doesn't like the 370Z...color me stunned.

Mercennarius · 08-05-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mook

Still, I think many people, including me, would prefer 370Z over GT-R for the street and not just because of the price difference.

And why is that???? That's the same thing as saying you'd perfer a Porsche Cayman over a Porsche 911 Turbo for the street

mook · 08-05-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mercennarius

And why is that???? That's the same thing as saying you'd perfer a Porsche Cayman over a Porsche 911 Turbo for the street

Actually, I would prefer the 09' Cayman S over all three.
Firstly, there is more involvement with the car at lower speeds. Test drive a fast Corvette on the back streets, if you can't get a hold of a 911 Turbo. You only 3/4 way through the 1st gear and you already have to hit the breaks. Might as well get an automatic. Same problem with litter bikes.

Try to slide one of those things on the street, too. Pretty tough with all that rubber at low speeds, isn't it.

You are also attracting just a bit too much attention. Don't know about you, but I don't like that for many reasons. Sometimes, it's just not practical when all you want to do is have fun.

GT-R is also a bit on the big side for the street.

And the biggest problem - AWD vs RWD. Of course, I'd rather stick to RWD on the street, even if I live somewhere where it rains or snows all the time. Hmmm, especially if I live there =).

Of course, there is a limit to this reasoning a car like Miata or S2000 makes you want more power.

kdoske · 08-05-2009, 10:06 PM

I hope this thread tears a hole in the Internet Continuum and gets sucked into the same dimension as the Even Horizon where it will be greeted by chaos, pure evil, and Sam Neill...

ex inferis-liberate tutame

travisjb · 08-05-2009, 10:52 PM

^ Whisky tango foxtrot!

Can someone please translate Satin's post for me? lol

joeyz10 · 08-06-2009, 04:29 AM

Guys why arfe you wasting time on this Mook guy? He is just playing with us, ignore him. Let hime keep his MS3. And now he is asking how much to mod the 370z to 300+ torque? Why are you asking? you don't like the Z anyway. Go buy your USED CAYMAN!!! Why are you not taing RCZ's challenge? you guys are both from FL? Enough of this non-sense afterall we are just probably talking to a boy with fantasies on cars....LOL lol

mook · 08-06-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by joeyz10

Guys why arfe you wasting time on this Mook guy? He is just playing with us, ignore him. Let hime keep his MS3. And now he is asking how much to mod the 370z to 300+ torque? Why are you asking? you don't like the Z anyway. Go buy your USED CAYMAN!!! Why are you not taing RCZ's challenge? you guys are both from FL? Enough of this non-sense afterall we are just probably talking to a boy with fantasies on cars....LOL lol

The discounted Cayman ended up being not very mechanically sound, so I backed out. The real price range makes it a lousy value when it does not have an LSD. Like I said, I will wait a couple of years for the 09 model to become cheaper.
I am not about to spend $70k (with options) on a car, whether I can afford it or not.

Now that the S2000 is discountinued and the cheap Cayman S is a pipe dream, for me there is no alternative to 370Z at this price range for RWD. So, I am back thinking about getting one and getting used to the extra weight.
Maybe wait till 2010 model comes out, see what is gonna change.

Never been to a racetrack, so can't take any challenges, sorry. Would be interesting to sit shotgun on a track in a Z that has been only minimally modified to see just how the thing feels at real speeds.

Greg · 08-06-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

^ Whisky tango foxtrot!

Can someone please translate Satin's post for me? lol

Place thread where the sun don't shine aka

...Thats my thought.

shabarivas · 08-06-2009, 12:12 PM

lol @ this thread... if you have ever driven a Z - thats any Z not just a 370... you will take back your silly comparison so fast lol

SnakeBitten · 08-06-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand123

I had dismissed the Z previously because the 350 was a slower car than the MS3 as far as power to weight and track times are concerned.

Track times lol.

kdoske · 08-06-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg

Place thread where the sun don't shine aka

...Thats my thought.

yes, perfect translation.

Lug · 08-06-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand123

I had dismissed the Z previously because the 350 was a slower car than the MS3 as far as power to weight and track times are concerned.

Nürburgring lap times

350Z - 8:26 (old 283 HP version)
MazdaSpeed3 - 8:39

That's a pretty significant difference.

shabarivas · 08-06-2009, 04:48 PM

I dont know where people get off comparing the Z w/ a goddam grocery getting MS3... I mean sure- its turbo.. but jeez

08-05-2009, 05:16 PM	#77 (permalink)
355890 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 416 Drives: GP Z Base+Sport (6m) Rep Power: 541	The Mazadaspeed 3 has big problems controling that enourmous torque to it's front wheels. Matter of fact the VW GTI does a much better job, albeit the MAZADASPEED 3 is probably faster. The Z and the Mazadaspeed 3 are total two different types of cars that operate and handle totally different, so you can't compare. PORSCHE CAYMAN S - I would still take this over a VIPER. It's not about how big you are, it's how you despense with the goods. Well better yet, seeing we are in this territory, I might as well move up to a 911 GT3.... I love my Z ? After 2nd gear it's all good. __________________ *"Burnley Football Club supporter" ENGLAND...ENGLAND...ENGLAND*

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