370Z Sport Package vs Mazdaspeed 3 GT vs S2000 vs Cayman S vs Mazda Rx-8

Robert_Nash · 11-19-2009, 07:01 PM

Try going to CamaroZ28.com or some of the other GM related forums and start putting down their cars and see what happens.

Even in their topics that are supposed to be about the car industry in general they don't tolerate much dissent.

Pushing_Tin · 11-19-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand123

Absolutely. When did it become unacceptable to have a healthy debate about cars? Is this a car forum for the 370Z, or is it the Temple of Z and God save anyone who writes anything that might offend the gatekeepers.

So you're telling me if I come over and troll the Mazda message board with posts about how the Z is superior everybody will be calm, welcoming, and engaging...?

Mazdas are fine cars, and if I wanted to have the steering wheel jerked in my hands every day I would own one.

Pushing_Tin · 11-19-2009, 07:34 PM

And for the RX8 if it had an engine that didn't get piss poor mileage and burn oil like a furnace I'd own of those too.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 07:45 PM

^yeah the renesis 13b did get poor gas mileage...didnt burn too much oil tho as compared to the older ones..all n all its not a bad car for the money...rear seats to..lolz.

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 08:08 PM

I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 08:11 PM

^i agree..a better comparision would be a 4cly forced induction fwd car..perhaps a neon srt4?

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 08:13 PM

besides we all know chipping a turbo car will net you tons more power than a NA car so its not a good comparo. Put even a single turbo on the Z and away she goes.

370Z_Fan · 11-19-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

oh btw id take the cayman S outta the bunch if i had the dough..lol.

For the price of the Cayman S I'd get a GT-R.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 08:25 PM

^^for the price of a GTR i'd buy 4 houses in Michigan..lolz..

theDreamer · 11-19-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

^^for the price of a GTR i'd buy 4 houses in Michigan..lolz..

You can only get 3 for the price of a GT-R.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You can only get 3 for the price of a GT-R.

lol..i stand corrected

Sand123 · 11-19-2009, 08:34 PM

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I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars.

Good idea there. But you should have checked your facts first.

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Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs

The 2009 TTS does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. And that's with the help of AWD (not FWD). All of the Audi S line cars are AWD. It also weighs 200 lbs more than the Mazdaspeed3, and has 22 less ft-lbs of torque. The Mazdaspeed3 is 200 lbs lighter, has more power, still clocks 0-60 faster despite being FWD, and blows the TTS away beyond 60 mph. Not to mention the fact that the Audi costs around $48,000 while the Mazda costs $25,000.

This comes from Car and Driver and Autoweek.

theDreamer · 11-19-2009, 08:41 PM

Audi of America > 2010 Audi TTS Coupe > TTS Coupe News and Reviews

• 0-60 mpg: 4.9 seconds
• Top speed: 155 mph
• Shift time: .2 seconds

Audi weight - 3241
Mazdaspeed 3 weight - 3221

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sand123

Good idea there. But you should have checked your facts first.

The 2009 TTS does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. And that's with the help of AWD (not FWD). All of the Audi S line cars are AWD. It also weighs 200 lbs more than the Mazdaspeed3, and has 22 less ft-lbs of torque. The Mazdaspeed3 is 200 lbs lighter, has more power, still clocks 0-60 faster despite being FWD, and blows the TTS away beyond 60 mph. Not to mention the fact that the Audi costs around $48,000 while the Mazda costs $25,000.

This comes from Car and Driver and Autoweek.

Your right about the AWD, but wrong about the times and $$$$ wasnt part of my comparo. With that extra $$$ you get a SH!T load of extras with the Audi that mazda doesnt even think about. And I doubt the mazda will be faster beyond 60 with only .5 liters more. Also only $46K for the TTS but still more than I could afford.

Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Audi of America > 2010 Audi TTS Coupe > TTS Coupe News and Reviews

• 0-60 mpg: 4.9 seconds
• Top speed: 155 mph
• Shift time: .2 seconds

Audi weight - 3241
Mazdaspeed 3 weight - 3221

just the facts please.

gotta love that DSG, its the bomb, wish the Z 7AT had it or the same as the GT-R.

11-19-2009, 07:01 PM	#166 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 17	Try going to CamaroZ28.com or some of the other GM related forums and start putting down their cars and see what happens. Even in their topics that are supposed to be about the car industry in general they don't tolerate much dissent. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

11-19-2009, 08:08 PM	#170 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I think a better comparison for the mazdaspeed3 would be with other 4 cyl turbo cars in which it would get blown away. I know the Audi TTS is a 2.0T 4 cyl FWD K04 turbo that does 0 to 60 in 4.9 secs compared to 5.5 for the mazda which has a 2.5 liter 4 cyl turbo. So it doesnt even beat its own type of cars. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	besides we all know chipping a turbo car will net you tons more power than a NA car so its not a good comparo. Put even a single turbo on the Z and away she goes. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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