Next gen turbo Z? Possible

dxp09 · 08-01-2009, 07:21 PM

Sorry if this is old.....

Return of the Turbo Z? Nissan Studying Future Turbocharging Options | Motortrend News & Auto Blog - Wide Open Throttle

whoady4shoady · 08-01-2009, 08:47 PM

It doesnt seem like it will be nappening anytime soon unfortunately.

355890 · 08-01-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whoady4shoady

It doesnt seem like it will be nappening anytime soon unfortunately.

To the contrary.......I believe sooner rather than latter.

nogoodname · 08-01-2009, 08:55 PM

get a TT Z at in independent shop near u.......lol

not going to be released from Nissan...lol

SnakeBitten · 08-02-2009, 10:43 AM

To tell you the truth Id like the see the Z stay na but I wouldnt mind 3.0 TT V6 over a TT 4 cyl. I would love to see a V8 in the next Z [a la M3] also but I know that wont happen due to green initiatives and gas prices. Smaller motors with turbo seems to be the future for most mfgs now.

theDreamer · 08-02-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten

To tell you the truth Id like the see the Z stay na but I wouldnt mind 3.0 TT V6 over a TT 4 cyl. I would love to see a V8 in the next Z [a la M3] also but I know that wont happen due to green initiatives and gas prices. Smaller motors with turbo seems to be the future for most mfgs now.

I think if Nissan is going to do a V8 it will end up in the GT-R first, but you are right, the Turbo V6 is going to become standard.

CBRich · 08-02-2009, 05:31 PM

The only problem is that a smaller motor with a turbo has never proven to be more green or get better mpg than a larger motor. Even Car and Driver's April issue had a small section devoted to this. Scan to come.

Forrest · 08-02-2009, 05:47 PM

man if next years was a turbo v6 i would have a fit hehe

Alexus · 08-02-2009, 05:52 PM

Putting a turbo in a Z would probably rocket the car into the GT-R pricerange. Imho the probability of this happening are akin to that of peace in the world by New Year's. A V8 370Z, however, is a possibility.

CBRich · 08-02-2009, 06:00 PM

need4speed · 08-02-2009, 06:10 PM

I can see the GT-R going extinct in a few years as a limited-run classic. The 370z ending (in like 5 to 7yrs) and the new generation car being a 400zx. Maybe it will be a small block V8. N/A on base model running 400hp n 340 lbs toque with an optional 4.0L ttdi pushin 550hp n 490lbs tq.
A 2 seater and 2+2 model on the nissan name. I see the G37 taking on its own identity seperate from the later ZX models. I see these ZX models starting at $45k goin up to $70k.
Sounds kinda like history will repeat itself in my prediction huh. Lol
Expect the Z to go upmarket again and a new silvia type car to be the 30 to 40k car.

edeeZee · 08-06-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by need4speed

I can see the GT-R going extinct in a few years as a limited-run classic. The 370z ending (in like 5 to 7yrs) and the new generation car being a 400zx. Maybe it will be a small block V8. N/A on base model running 400hp n 340 lbs toque with an optional 4.0L ttdi pushin 550hp n 490lbs tq.
A 2 seater and 2+2 model on the nissan name. I see the G37 taking on its own identity seperate from the later ZX models. I see these ZX models starting at $45k goin up to $70k.
Sounds kinda like history will repeat itself in my prediction huh. Lol
Expect the Z to go upmarket again and a new silvia type car to be the 30 to 40k car.

I doubt the Z-car will go upmarket, because that along with the overvalued yen is what killed the Z32. I think Nissan and all the other Japanese car manufacturers learned their lessons from the mid 90's.

You know why the 300ZX had an "X" right? It implied "luxury." This deviated from the original concept of 'affordable sports car' that Datsun intended for Z-car enthusiasts.

need4speed · 08-08-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by edeeZee

I doubt the Z-car will go upmarket, because that along with the overvalued yen is what killed the Z32. I think Nissan and all the other Japanese car manufacturers learned their lessons from the mid 90's.

You know why the 300ZX had an "X" right? It implied "luxury." This deviated from the original concept of 'affordable sports car' that Datsun intended for Z-car enthusiasts.

Oh kool. That I didn't kno and always wondered y the X was added. I figured it was when they started putting back seats but what u say makes sense cuz there were 2 seater ZX's. But I knew my concocted theory was flawed n kept it to myself till now.

BUt. I would luv to believe that car companies and all companies learn lessons.
In a beautiful world that would be true. But greed is a mutha.
The Z started in 2003 at $25,630 in '03 dest. Inc.. In 6 years it went up to 30.6k
And now we can expect this Z34 around for a similar amount of years.
The numbers follow a trend I previously stated in another thread. The 1st 2 years of a new model. The car stays tight in price. The last 4 years it goes up 1,000 a year. So in 6 years at minimum
This Z on its last model year will be around $36k to start.
Then comes the Z35. Inflation goes up like the space shuttle. Salaries and minimum wages stagger along the most pathetic of lines of poverty. Lol They way the economy is people won't be able to afford this car at base. They are trying to make the easily attainable car pricepoint 30 to 45k while most of america are still only able to afford around 20 to 35k.
The Z is going upmarket as we speak. Lol
I just don't think they will put the exaggerated prices of the 90's but probably by then will be more than what its worth, which is still similar to the 90's and BMW, there other benchmark competitor aside from porsche.
Hyundai is working on a 2 seat coupe version of the genesis coupe.
Maybe hyundai will keep nissan in check on prices though?
Only time will tell.

edeeZee · 08-08-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by need4speed

Oh kool. That I didn't kno and always wondered y the X was added. I figured it was when they started putting back seats but what u say makes sense cuz there were 2 seater ZX's. But I knew my concocted theory was flawed n kept it to myself till now.

BUt. I would luv to believe that car companies and all companies learn lessons.
In a beautiful world that would be true. But greed is a mutha.
The Z started in 2003 at $25,630 in '03 dest. Inc.. In 6 years it went up to 30.6k
And now we can expect this Z34 around for a similar amount of years.
The numbers follow a trend I previously stated in another thread. The 1st 2 years of a new model. The car stays tight in price. The last 4 years it goes up 1,000 a year. So in 6 years at minimum
This Z on its last model year will be around $36k to start.
Then comes the Z35. Inflation goes up like the space shuttle. Salaries and minimum wages stagger along the most pathetic of lines of poverty. Lol They way the economy is people won't be able to afford this car at base. They are trying to make the easily attainable car pricepoint 30 to 45k while most of america are still only able to afford around 20 to 35k.
The Z is going upmarket as we speak. Lol
I just don't think they will put the exaggerated prices of the 90's but probably by then will be more than what its worth, which is still similar to the 90's and BMW, there other benchmark competitor aside from porsche.
Hyundai is working on a 2 seat coupe version of the genesis coupe.
Maybe hyundai will keep nissan in check on prices though?
Only time will tell.

Inflation is typically 3% per year in the U.S. 300ZX Twin Turbo's costed $45,000+ back in '95 when they stopped sales in the U.S.

1.03^14=1.51 or 1.5x as expensive now. That $45K Z32 TT in today's money =$68,000 car. The Z32 TT in '95 was about a $70,000 car in 2009 money. When it was first introduced in August of '89, it was about $35,000; here's the math 1.03^20=1.8-->1.8x as expensive then, thus $35,000 x 1.8 = $63,000 car in 2009 money.

In the mid 90's the Japanese yen was "overvalued" to the U.S. dollar, thus all the twin turbo Japanese sports cars were hitting over $40K to even $50,000. The MK IV Supra TT was $52,000. Keep in mind, these are "1990's dollar figures."

I know all these things...because as a high school student then, I used to gawk at these cars @ the dealerships.

need4speed · 08-02-2009, 06:11 PM

I can see the GT-R going extinct in a few years as a limited-run classic. The 370z ending (in like 5 to 7yrs) and the new generation car being a 400zx. Maybe it will be a small block V8. N/A on base model running 400hp n 340 lbs toque with an optional 4.0L ttdi pushin 550hp n 490lbs tq.
A 2 seater and 2+2 model on the nissan name. I see the G37 taking on its own identity seperate from the later ZX models. I see these ZX models starting at $45k goin up to $70k.
Sounds kinda like history will repeat itself in my prediction huh. Lol
Expect the Z to go upmarket again and a new silvia type car to be the 30 to 40k car.

08-01-2009, 07:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
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SnakeBitten Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwood Posts: 232 Drives: 05 DBZ M6 Rep Power: 17	To tell you the truth Id like the see the Z stay na but I wouldnt mind 3.0 TT V6 over a TT 4 cyl. I would love to see a V8 in the next Z [a la M3] also but I know that wont happen due to green initiatives and gas prices. Smaller motors with turbo seems to be the future for most mfgs now. __________________

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Alexus Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 178 Drives: The Beast Rep Power: 17	Putting a turbo in a Z would probably rocket the car into the GT-R pricerange. Imho the probability of this happening are akin to that of peace in the world by New Year's. A V8 370Z, however, is a possibility. __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George S. Patton Jr., 1885-1945

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08-01-2009, 08:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
whoady4shoady A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,088 Drives: 09 Silver Nismo Rep Power: 18	It doesnt seem like it will be nappening anytime soon unfortunately.

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	get a TT Z at in independent shop near u.......lol not going to be released from Nissan...lol

08-02-2009, 05:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	The only problem is that a smaller motor with a turbo has never proven to be more green or get better mpg than a larger motor. Even Car and Driver's April issue had a small section devoted to this. Scan to come.

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08-02-2009, 06:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 16	I can see the GT-R going extinct in a few years as a limited-run classic. The 370z ending (in like 5 to 7yrs) and the new generation car being a 400zx. Maybe it will be a small block V8. N/A on base model running 400hp n 340 lbs toque with an optional 4.0L ttdi pushin 550hp n 490lbs tq. A 2 seater and 2+2 model on the nissan name. I see the G37 taking on its own identity seperate from the later ZX models. I see these ZX models starting at $45k goin up to $70k. Sounds kinda like history will repeat itself in my prediction huh. Lol Expect the Z to go upmarket again and a new silvia type car to be the 30 to 40k car.

08-02-2009, 06:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 16	I can see the GT-R going extinct in a few years as a limited-run classic. The 370z ending (in like 5 to 7yrs) and the new generation car being a 400zx. Maybe it will be a small block V8. N/A on base model running 400hp n 340 lbs toque with an optional 4.0L ttdi pushin 550hp n 490lbs tq. A 2 seater and 2+2 model on the nissan name. I see the G37 taking on its own identity seperate from the later ZX models. I see these ZX models starting at $45k goin up to $70k. Sounds kinda like history will repeat itself in my prediction huh. Lol Expect the Z to go upmarket again and a new silvia type car to be the 30 to 40k car.