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z man 07-01-2013 09:15 AM

Not a Nissan Fan
 
I purchased my 09 370 new. Within 40,000 miles, I have had an engine replacement (due to excessive oil useage), a steering lock box replacement, a slave cylinder replacement $900.00 (has something to do with the clutch) and I was told by a service advisor that my rear differential is leaking and would need repair. What's most frustrating is that the slave cylinder repair, and the problem has not been corrected. The clutch and pedal does engage but the clutch pedal does not automatically come back into place after use. This was originally diagnosed as being a bad slave cylinder. I have taken it back, where the dealership (Don Davis) has bleed the lines, to remedy the problem....did not work.

I do not race or drive my care at excessive speeds or harshly. I have owned other cars and have never had as many problems as I have had with this car. It is my first Nissan product and will be my last. Completely Frustrated!

SS_Firehawk 07-01-2013 09:27 AM

All of those items are pretty common, especially 09's. Some time in 2011, they removed the steering lock mechanism. Also replacing the CSC with a beefier aftermarket unit would have been a better choice. Rear diff isn't worth much after 50k miles or so and acts like an open diff over time. It's crap. Did you get reimbursed for your steering lock?

BTW, I love my Z, none of those issues have crossed my path ;)

Carno 07-01-2013 09:35 AM

Bad luck for you, I guess. My '09 has 45,000 miles and I run the thing ragged and have never had a single issue with it.

Cmike2780 07-01-2013 09:40 AM

Frustrating, but I doubt you'll find ANY car out there that will never have a problem.

-Your problem with the clutch is likely the CSC failure, which is well documented. Bleeding the lines won't help if the CSC isn't functioning as it should.
-oil consumption issue effected a small amount of early 370's, also well documented.
-Steering lock isn't a biggie and was under a recall.

If all this happened within the warranty period, I wouldn't really give it much thought. Most sports cars are high strung to begin with and there is always a slight trade off in reliability. It sounds more like a crappy dealership experience to be honest. I've had cars in the past with less problems and I've had cars with more. The simple truth is, any modern vehicle is a complex series of mechanical movements and computers where any one thing can go wrong. This can be caused by wear and tear or slight imperfections during manufacturing.

Think of it this way, have you ever heard of a race car that didn't need some kind of repair due to a mechanical issue?

VQ370ZTT 07-01-2013 09:43 AM

I guess you bought the bad apple of the bunch! Hope it doesn't spoil the bunch. so sorry, but bad luck for you sir.

Mt Tam I am 07-01-2013 09:56 AM

I have an 09 and got the new engine. Slave cylinder may be in my future but so far so good.

enkei2k 07-01-2013 10:01 AM

Sorry to hear about your misfortunes.

This was one of the reasons why I got a 2012 model. Give them a few years to work out the kinks first. It's like that for many first new model year cars. The first new cars from any manufacturer will have issues.

blackcherry20 07-01-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by enkei2k (Post 2387179)
Sorry to hear about your misfortunes.

This was one of the reasons why I got a 2012 model. Give them a few years to work out the kinks first. It's like that for many first new model year cars. The first new cars from any manufacturer will have issues.

:iagree: but I am sorry for your troubles. I love my Z.

TheGreatOne 07-01-2013 10:07 AM

Ya, sorry to hear about your troubles.

I actually thought this was going to be a different kind of thread lol. I was coming in here to say I don't like Nissan's in general except for the Z :D

I had the Steering lock changed for free (preventative) and my clutch was hitting and sticking to the floor and had the CSC changed for free at the dealer too.

Ya, like other's have said, that first production year is bound to have some kinks but people can't help themselves to grab that new car...seems many people here with 09's have been good though.

Anywyas, hope its smooth sailing from here on out.

122554 07-01-2013 10:19 AM

Sorry to hear, but I had far worse problems with a NEW corvette!

In the shop 4 out of the first 6 months. 3 transmissions, 2 differentials, etc. got my money refunded through the lemon law act. Have an 06 H2 that I've own since new and it's never seen the dealer.

Happens!

VQ370ZTT 07-01-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 122554 (Post 2387199)
Sorry to hear, but I had far worse problems with a NEW corvette!

In the shop 4 out of the first 6 months. 3 transmissions, 2 differentials, etc. got my money refunded through the lemon law act. Have an 06 H2 that I've own since new and it's never seen the dealer.

Happens!

Furreal?! Shiet, and I was thinking of getting a new Z06 to drive around...

kenchan 07-01-2013 10:29 AM

hummmm... sorry to hear op. :(

i donno, maybe swap the csc with aftermarket and get a true LSD while you're at it? much cheaper than buying a new car.

is the drivetrain still covered under warranty? :confused:

GaleForce 07-01-2013 10:58 AM

Have the dealer replace the CMC, assuming they installed the CSC and bled the lines correctly.

Also, oil on the rear diff could be rear subframe/diff bushings. Hope for a leaky rear diff, much easier to deal with.

binary0x01 07-01-2013 11:16 AM

That sucks dood. But, you can still salvage the situation. If you don't mind putting a bit of money in and replacing some key parts I think you will find that you've got a pretty bad *** vehicle.

If the car is stock, get a new clutch and a lighter flywheel with a metal CSC, get a Quaife diff, FI exhaust and a RJM clutch pedal :D, then tell us how you feel.

DEpointfive0 07-01-2013 12:15 PM

Lol, sorry OP, I'm in the same boat as you... Actually worse...

DEpointfive0 07-01-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 2387290)
That sucks dood. But, you can still salvage the situation. If you don't mind putting a bit of money in and replacing some key parts I think you will find that you've got a pretty bad *** vehicle.

If the car is stock, get a new clutch and a lighter flywheel with a metal CSC, get a Quaife diff, FI exhaust and a RJM clutch pedal :D, then tell us how you feel.

^ I agree




And your diff is leaking? Or the subframe bushing?

JungleZ 07-01-2013 12:22 PM

Don't worry op you aren't the only one who isnt a nissan fan.I will never get into a Nissan again. I will always tell people to get a Honda or toyota instead, even Mazda now.

Cmike2780 07-01-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2387386)
Don't worry op you aren't the only one who isnt a nissan fan.I will never get into a Nissan again. I will always tell people to get a Honda or toyota instead, even Mazda now.

Funny enough, my RX-8 was in the dealer more times than any car I've owned. My 92 Camry's motor crapped out at 110k miles and I had a Civic where everything but the motor fell apart. Please enlighten us all by naming a mass produced car that has never had a mechanical problem.

...on second thought, you probably just trolling anyways.

nmjaxx9 07-01-2013 01:44 PM

Wackkkkkkkk :rofl2:


I still think Nissan makes the best cars. Point blank period. :tup:

JungleZ 07-01-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2387491)
Funny enough, my RX-8 was in the dealer more times than any car I've owned. My 92 Camry's motor crapped out at 110k miles and I had a Civic where everything but the motor fell apart. Please enlighten us all by naming a mass produced car that has never had a mechanical problem.

...on second thought, you probably just trolling anyways.

Honda and Toyota are in another league when it comes to quality , build, resale value . A couple issues on their part is nothing compared to Nissan bs.

TheGreatOne 07-01-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2387524)
Honda and Toyota are in another league when it comes to quality , build, resale value . A couple issues on their part is nothing compared to Nissan bs.

Bit of a stretch to say "another league" when statistically when the topic of "reliability, quality and resale" come up, Nissan is always up there.

But again, possibly trolling as mentioned by another member...so I shall remain calm lol. I mean...you actually said Mazda...lmao

Z_ealot 07-01-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne (Post 2387531)
Bit of a stretch to say "another league" when statistically when the topic of "reliability, quality and resale" come up, Nissan is always up there.

But again, possibly trolling as mentioned by another member...so I shall remain calm lol. I mean...you actually said Mazda...lmao

dumby doesnt know that honda is under investigation for alot of potential recalls including the latest one which involved brakes automatically engaging in their honda odyssey vans...yeah big time quality there :rolleyes: not to mention the recalls over the years for toyota vehicles...hell even toyota's CEO mr. toyoda himself says they need to up their game in the quality department lol

jcosta79 07-01-2013 02:20 PM

If it makes you feel any better, Nissan is not a fan of you either.

ParkStr8 07-01-2013 02:28 PM

I've had 49 cars since the 80's. About 10 of them Nissan/Infiniti. Most reliable and trouble free of all my brands. And I've had multiple vehicles within a brand - had 11 Jeeps. 5 BMW's. 3 Volvos. 4 Infinitis. Some great, some not so great.

Brands that include:

Audi
BMW
Volvo
Nissan
Infiniti
Oldsmobile
Pontiac
Jeep
Ford
Range Rover
Jaguar
VW
Among them.

Hate the ISSUE or the particular car - not every car or the brand.

It's a shame you are having issues- and we all feel badly for you for that. But for every 1 member on here, there are 50 who have no clue what a forum is.

DEpointfive0 07-01-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2387386)
Don't worry op you aren't the only one who isnt a nissan fan.I will never get into a Nissan again. I will always tell people to get a Honda or toyota instead, even Mazda now.

No way... You posted too???
We all know I have REAL car problems, but I tried fixing or alleviating them,

Your problems have arisen because you're being too damn lazy in a car YOU leased (like your clutch sucks and you didn't even KNOW about the helper spring :gtfo2: and when you take it out report how much better the car is)

You get 12-14MPG and somehow you don't have fun, you just blame bad gas mileage :gtfo2: I RAPE my car and get better mileage, you gotta be lying to us

And as much as I hate my Nissans, I still like the community, and I still like HELPING, your posts are bullshít now... Well... Since always

kenchan 07-01-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ParkStr8 (Post 2387564)
I've had 49 cars since the 80's. About 10 of them Nissan/Infiniti. Most reliable and trouble free of all my brands. And I've had multiple vehicles within a brand - had 11 Jeeps. 5 BMW's. 3 Volvos. 4 Infinitis. Some great, some not so great.

wow... ive had like 49 matchbox cars... some great, some not so great.

saber 07-01-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2387626)
wow... ive had like 49 matchbox cars... some great, some not so great.

i've had 50+ hot wheel cars...they're all still in pristine condition, except the wheels all look like trash.

wait...are we talking about the same thing here? :icon17:

aren't mazdas getting better reliability-wise?

sheps58 07-01-2013 03:11 PM

2010 370z base model no problems
 
I have a 2010 Z with only 10000 miles. I have no problems. I realize I have low miles.

Look at Porsche Cayman's Boxster's and some 911's IMS failures and a class action law suit.

GaleForce 07-01-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2387626)
wow... ive had like 49 matchbox cars... some great, some not so great.

Everyone knows Matchbox sucks, Hot Wheels are where it's at. :tup:

kenchan 07-01-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by saber (Post 2387637)
i've had 50+ hot wheel cars...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 2387730)
Everyone knows Matchbox sucks, Hot Wheels are where it's at. :tup:

damn show-offs. :shakes head:


:rofl2:

Magic Bus 07-01-2013 04:07 PM

z man, DEpointfive0,

I understand how you guys feel. Had a different car brand years ago and it gave me tons of problems, swore I never would purchase another. Years later, gave it a 2nd chance and bought a different model, kept it for 11 years without a hiccup.

Bad luck happens to even good people, hope things get better with the Z for the both of you!

JARblue 07-01-2013 04:17 PM

JungleZ in real life:

( Click to show/hide )
He's the one holding up the sign in case you didn't get it :ugh2:

http://media.moddb.com/images/groups...65273_460s.jpg

speedfreek 07-01-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kmkraft12 (Post 2387765)
You must have no life to come to a forum and post about a car you hate, and constantly complain about that you LEASED and will not have to worry about once it ends.

^^^fixed

It's not like Honda and Toyota do not have issues. If I recall correctly it was Toyota who had cars that were killing people not so many years ago. Remember the accelerator issue :gtfo2:

Cmike2780 07-01-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2387524)
Honda and Toyota are in another league when it comes to quality , build, resale value . A couple issues on their part is nothing compared to Nissan bs.

Well if you're gonna use those silly rankings, why not include the part where KBB gave it the Best Resale Value Award in '10, JD Power's Highest Ranked Compact Premium Sporty Car in Initial Quality in '09.....

....the point is, those things are mostly bs to begin with. Every car will have a mechanical issue sooner or later. The problems with the Z are relatively scarce and/or widely known where a fix is available. Just because some journalist marks it as the most reliable car on the planet, doesn't make it indestructible. Also, I think the Camaro has been winning the resale value moniker for this segment for a few years now.

A car can achieve a high resale value if a lot of people think it has a high resale value.

fonzo179 07-01-2013 04:43 PM

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kenchan 07-01-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fonzo179 (Post 2387861)
A troll is among us!

:icon18:

Trips 07-01-2013 04:52 PM

:koolaidwall:

Trips 07-01-2013 05:14 PM

Op,

Im very sorry to hear of you're "The Perfect Storm" issues with your Z.

I don't think anyone here would blame for feeling the way you do.

I could only say that the issue's accumulating on your car is NOT normal sure some will get one or another but dude yours is falling apart.

The thing I could say is once you have all your issues fixed you should have a trouble free car.

Luck would have it if you decided to give on it, and sell it? The next buyers going to enjoy it since you've already fix the most of issues.

Hopefully you get things fixed quickly so you can start enjoy it once again.

I know I've been pretty lucky with my Jan 09 build.

PapoZalsa 07-01-2013 05:30 PM

Every once in a while every Make and Model has a Lemon. That is why Lemon Laws exists depending on your state.

stretcho 07-01-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2387524)
Honda and Toyota are in another league when it comes to quality

That ain't no lie!
My civic was the rattliest car I've ever owned, new or old. My Tacoma's headliner and door skins were coming apart in its first six months. I don't care how long an engine may last if the car's a POS otherwise.


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