2016 Nissan Z: Sorry, Z Fans, No Return to Roots Just Yet

SS_Firehawk

"The Q50 looks like crap, if thats their direction i dont have high hopes at all."

How in the blue hell does this have anything to do with the upcoming Z?
3200-3300lbs (give or take 30lbs) is not "a fat pig". The EVO, Subaru, Mustangs, Camaro's, they all weigh more. The Z weighs as much as a Vette. Considering they dropped 125lbs with the Q50, I think I do know the direction they are going. I've stated before the Z will most likely lose 100lbs, anything more is a far shot. I already addressed your "we need more mpg" Making 380hp and 30mpg is my estimate (from the VQ), nothing more to say. I highly doubt you only get 13mpg in the city. Maybe you don't know how to effectively drive in the city. You probably tail gate, hit your brakes, accelerate, and repeat. I was getting 14mpg with busted O2 sensors and the injectors literally dumping fuel into the motor. You are lying. Gear box isn't bad and considered subjective. Skip shifting doesn't work well, but it's not a clunky box. The engine is harsh, but because you have it leased, the harshness was really the exhaust. My car sounds and feels smooth as butter all the way up to 7500rpm. The engine makes more than enough power, even at low rpm. I give my car a throttle blip, as I release the clutch and I get moving along just fine. Following you're whole 350Z/G35 logic, they don't look the same, the 370Z does not look like a G37. But both the 350Z/G35 and 370Z/G37 are based on the same engine, transmission, and platform. For the past two model generations it's been like this, why do you think it's going to change? What was so different about the Z cars drivetrain, chassis, or powertrain that is not on the G's? SRM is the only thing that comes to mind and it's software. Chances are extremely high it will be an improvement not much different from the 07/08 350Z's to the 370Z's.

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cheshirecat

Nissan needs to move in a different direction with this vehicle. It's a good car, but not a *great* car. The potential is there but it seems like we need to wait another generation.

luigi90210

I completely disagree, the 370z might not be the best straight line performer like a vette or a gt500 mustang, but it has more bite than most people here can handle. Around a road course(like streets of willow) the 370z can keep up with cars tons faster than it. Plus its faster than a E46 M3, imo that says alot about this car, sure its newer than the E46, but the E46 was a car that can get you in alot of trouble bone stock.

dizenman

Be thankful you never owned an rx8 then. Doesnt make a lick of power below 5000 rpm and the tranny grinds in just about gear. Biggest mistake going from my 350z to that. finally working on getting into a 370z...

Mines 370z

Man I almost made that mistake when I get my 350Z back a few years ago, glad I didn't get that RX8...I dodged the bullet on that one.

Z_ealot

dont pay attention to jungle, he's just bitter that he didnt get the sport package lol

jburke26

Can someone please total his Z so he won't be on these forums bitching about how much he hates his car....

dizenman

the 4 seats is what killed me on that one... biggest mistake.

SS_Firehawk

I test drove a 2010 RX-8 R3 a few years back. I had a blast. The R3 package was pretty legit, but like most, it really need more power. Mazda should have turbo'd that from the start. Especially since the gas mileage was already bad, what would it matter if it gets worse? Heck, it may have gotten better with the extra torque. Those seats... Felt like I was being hugged by a bear and I'm 5'6 150lbs. Got close to buying it, but I held out. The Z was the better choice. Thinking about it, I may have to replace my seats just to get that snug feeling again.

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DIGItonium

Power isn't everything. If Nissan did everything you guys asked the next Z will be priced out of everyone's league.

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Z_ealot

same thing that i said a few weeks back, but everyone seems to think more power solves everything...i mean all you have to do is look at the new porsches to realize that they didnt even raise the power on their models by much and they still perform better than the previous models. it's all about balance people

370Zsteve

I dunno about the Angry Dude, but I do know Car & Driver ain't what it used to be, and somebody at that rag has it in for the 370Z for some weird reason. Expect them to be out of business soon anyway.

First time I ever heard a 370Z called a fat pig. That was pretty

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cheshirecat

I understand what you're saying and I agree. It's a good car. I think it has the potential to be a great car. However, I feel that it's lacking in a few areas that can pull it into that corral.

As far as the track, that's fine- however, we all know that it's not a track car out of the box, so that may put a damper on the selling point.

I'd personally like to see the Z get into the same kind of league perception-wise as the FT86 platform. I think everyone can agree that Toyota knocked that chassis out of the park (for what it is, not a direct competitor). IMO, Nissan has the experience and imagination needed for that kind of car- just look at the GTR. However, I kinda feel like I'm wishing for lightning to strike twice.

Ah well, just gotta wait and see.

UNKNOWN_370

Mazda attempted it for 300hp but had to reneg the turbo cuz they would lose emissions on the turbo alone. That engine is worthless with today's CAFE standards. Nissan can make a philosophical competitor for the Fr-S in a silvia type vehicle. I think it's time for nissan to make a $27k RWD lightweight 2800lb 270hp turbo 2+2 coupe so i can daily it anyway.

Nissan Z can be a 370hp 3100lb car.

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370ZeeZy

VERY TRUE! I do think 370hp is a little high! That or dramatically increase its price but they would definitely be shooting themselves in the foot ....Theyd roughly be in the '13 cayman $$ bracket !
But yea, ideally the silvia should be their entry (FR-S competitor), Z being mid range (competing with say the low end porches), then the GOD being their top tier exotic killer!

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