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Originally Posted by CSGLEON So what is going on with the Escort max? i haven't seen any reviews yet but escort claims it will be the best detector out there

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Old 06-24-2013, 04:51 PM   #196 (permalink)
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So what is going on with the Escort max? i haven't seen any reviews yet but escort claims it will be the best detector out there basicly combining the redline and 9500. and the fastest processor.
Still on pre-order. I think early purchasers are supposed to get it this week (end of June).
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I just took the escort 9500 IX back to best buy today, in opinion they are all useless toys.
The fancy escort case probably costs more that the actual detector to make.

If you really want to buy one your better off just getting one of the well reviewed ones for around $150 and play around with it.

Or just get the 9500 IX at best buy and try it for a their 15 day return period and see how performs on the highway and city when the police are out in force in your area.

All odds are you will return it and come up the same results that I found with the California police and Nevada police.

In reality they are just toys.
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First off, thanks for actually posting your review... However comma...

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OK ! So here is my review of the PASSPORT 9500 IX , Traveled a total of around 650 miles in and out of southern California.

I kept the speed in a safe manner in order to avoid any tickets as this was only a test of the radars ability.

Overall I had about 15 occurrences with police , ( 10 highway and 5 local).

Every X band and K Band were always false alerts, had to disable X band alerts.

As said in other posts, did you notice when you were driving past other cars what make/model they were? Could you notice if they had the little collision avoidance radar spots on the bumpers? If so, they were setting off your detector... So to the detector, they're a weak signal. It picked them up, it worked.

All police encounters that set off the detector were KA band or no reading at all.

Did you look up what the local cops and/or HP use for their radars to know which band you'd be up against? Most agencies now only use Ka band, so that's not a fault in the detector.

Surprisingly for me the I did get 2 long range readings of readings of KA Band set ups, range about 1 mile.

So the detector worked... le problem??

I also picked up 2 KA signals that locked up the radar unit, where it displayed a constant KA signals for 3-5 miles , I pulled to the side while it was still making a lot of noise, unplugged it and restarted it and the signal was gone.

Again as said before, were you driving along side a minivan or other euro vehicle for a long period of time? Or hit MUTE, that will clear it on false alerts. It helps to read the manual...


So on the thruway, I had about 8 occurrences of KA band , 2 alerts could have been considered long range 1 1/4 mile and 3/4 miles and 2more about a 1/2 mile.

So it worked 8 times? That's a pretty good track record based on variable terrain.

The rest of the highway KA band were short range indications of only about a 10th mile, basically you seen the cop and the radar unit displayed KA band , no time to slow down.

Did you See the cops before the detector went off? It won't save you every time, thats why You the driver still need to be alert regardless..

I also got one constant KA short range signal from a school warning.

Which most would consider a good thing... Cops love to use those for high $$ tickets.

2 KA short range signals from moving local PD.

Those are the ones that will drive you crazy cause you don't see a "parked" car, so you have to eyeball every car in opposing traffic. But even still, it worked 2 more times..

3 none signals from one CHP off thruway and 2 other local PD.

Were they moving, or parked? If they were moving, they probably didn't have them ON while driving, or just as easily were not transmitting while parked either... Sometimes they way to see someone before they transmit. So that doesn't mean the detector didn't work...

One red light camera alert on intersection above the thruway.

GPS database ftw.

Not one laser alerts at all.

Did anyone you went up against Use Laser? If not, why would you expect to get a laser alert?

So in conclusion I would say the 9500 IX did give some long distance alerts , but it also gave a lot of short range results , that would have resulted in a lot of tickets, if I was speeding over the limit and targeted.

If you speed don't be mindful of your location and potential hiding spots, then you set yourself up for failure... You can't expect to put the magic box on your windshield and drive like a bat outta hell... You've gotta be a mindful driver, which is where I think your issue is. You think people with detectors stop watching the road... you should Never stop watching the road.

Then it also got 2 KA alerts that locked it up and it had to be powered down and powered up to clear it self ????

Read above about Muting alerts to clear/lockout.

In comparison the cheap Cobra $110 radar/ laser detector , there are a lot of similar short range results, it would have been nice to have the 2 detectors working side by side for a review.

If you put them side by side, you would have a lot of false alerts from the detectors setting each other off... Read up on the principles of radar detectors, and you'll understand why. That is one of the reasons the Escort 9500ci and Beltronics STi are worth their cost. They don't have the same problems associated due to their manufacture. Also, these are not able to be picked up on radar detector detectors. (Partly why I got mine.)

So is there a benefit to the escort VS the cheap $110 Cobra unit , the answer is yes, possibly better in long range detection and it gives you speed and red light camera alerts.

Is it worth $500 for the 9500 IX , probably not.

I feel that it question whether your detector warns you or not or if you get nailed for speeding, really depends on the equipment the police are using and the tactics they use for deploying it.

Which is standard across the country... No one disagrees with you there??

If the police set up parallel to the road , you may pick up a long range signal, but it seems most of the police set up the KA radar so it only emits a short range signal (perpendicular or at an angle to on coming traffic).

So you need to be scanning the sides of the road for them since your detector won't see them as far... standard procedure.

So is a radar laser detector of any real benefit, yes they are , but minor even with 50/50 chance on the KA band alerts. You still face the almost unbeatable detection from Laser and Lidar and Speed Cameras using buried road sensors.

If you drive by a speed camera at 90 mph, or 60 in a 45 then it's your own dumb fault. If you see those nice pretty boxes on the side of the road and slow down, it's not the detectors fault you got popped.

It all boils down to a crap shoot 50/ 50 chance with a $200-$500 ticket and your insurance going thu the roof for about 4 yrs.

Look at it this way, say you get 1 ticket every 6 months at the rate of $100.
In 4 years that's $800. Not even including the insurance increase from the points. So roughly $100~200 there.

$500 for a detector which might prevent them altogether, or $1000 in potential fines/price increases.


For me I will stick with the Garmin GPS with red light camera alerts and just lay back with the CRUISE CONTROL SET AT THE SPEED LIMIT and not worry.
So you're saying you never speed?
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Bottom line a detector is worthless, if the majority of police use the KA Band and it only detects them with in a 10th mile or less for the majority of detections.

You will not have time to slow down, your only hope is that the police already targeted someone else or is in the process of writing up a ticket to another driver.

Your statements about observing other cars to see if they set off the detector is BS. No one has that much time to waste when driving and you can't slam your brakes on with every false detection

Either the detector works or it doesn't.

The other issue is that you really can't speed and hope you won't get caught, with the 65- 70 mph speed limit on most roads, its fast enough to not have to worry about a $200-$500 ticket to save a few minutes on a trip.
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Data does not support that conclusion. Even your experience showed that detectors work at picking up radar signals. You're coming to a conclusion that isn't supportable based on pre existing bias.
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Bottom line a detector is worthless, if the majority of police use the KA Band and it only detects them with in a 10th mile or less for the majority of detections.

You just said you had 8+ detections at distances over a half mile... That's not worthless.

You will not have time to slow down, your only hope is that the police already targeted someone else or is in the process of writing up a ticket to another driver.

Your statements about observing other cars to see if they set off the detector is BS. No one has that much time to waste when driving and you can't slam your brakes on with every false detection

You don't slam on your brakes for ANY detection... Talk about highlighting yourself even more than speeding. All you do is come off the gas, and if you're going too fast, give the ebrake a quick squeeze to bleed speed. A quick drop in speed lets the cop know you know he saw you = you're guilty.

And no, it isn't BS. It takes no time at all. I've had several false detections from other vehicles and noticed the back up/collision avoidance sensors and chalked it up to those. After you spend a good amount of time with the detector, you Learn what it picks up and are able to discern what is/is not a real alert.


Either the detector works or it doesn't.

And according to your review, it DID work. You are saying if you're a horrible driver, don't waste your money. But an actual alert driver, someone who pays attention, and takes the time to understand how the detector works and it's quirks, will go far fine.

The other issue is that you really can't speed and hope you won't get caught, with the 65- 70 mph speed limit on most roads, its fast enough to not have to worry about a $200-$500 ticket to save a few minutes on a trip.
And no one is saying otherwise, that point isn't even being debated. If YOU want to go the speed limit, and get there maybe 15 seconds later, good for you. But for those that would like to go a few MPH higher, and have a detector help, where's the best place to buy...
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Not biased , 10th. of a mile is 528 ft. covered in only a few seconds at 70mph or more = no time to slow down , plain and simple.

According to you even if it saves you a few tickets the detector is worth it !

What is the logic in that statement, who can afford a $200 -$500 ticket a few times a yr. and expensive surcharges for points against their license.

Tell me more about side scanning abilities, when you can't see the speed patrol set up.
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Not biased , 10th. of a mile is 528 ft. covered in only a few seconds at 70mph or more = no time to slow down , plain and simple.

According to you even if it saves you a few tickets the detector is worth it !

What is the logic in that statement, who can afford a $200 -$500 ticket a few times a yr. and expensive surcharges for points against their license.

Tell me more about side scanning abilities, when you can't see the speed patrol set up.
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Overall I had about 15 occurrences with police , ( 10 highway and 5 local).

Surprisingly for me the I did get 2 long range readings of readings of KA Band set ups, range about 1 mile.


So on the thruway, I had about 8 occurrences of KA band , 2 alerts could have been considered long range 1 1/4 mile and 3/4 miles and 2 more about a 1/2 mile.

The rest of the highway KA band were short range indications of only about a 10th mile, basically you seen the cop and the radar unit displayed KA band , no time to slow down.
Once again you only pick and choose 1 fact to hold on to with your OWN statement, which shows how far your negative bias is. You won't even listen to your own words... How many times did you yourself say it worked at distances > .1 miles? Exactly.

I didn't say it was worth it? I said compare/contrast having the detector and NOT getting tickets, only spending $500, or getting only 1 ticket per 6 month period. After the 4 years which You stipulated, the detector would be cheaper, so why not get one??


What do you mean if you can't see? If you Don't look, it's on you. If the detector goes off and you Don't react, it's on you. If you go around a blind corner at excessive speed, it's on you. You can't blame the detector for a bad driver...
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The majority of the KA band detections were at short range about a 10th. mile for most of them, I really only got 2 long range detections. and 2 questionable distances.

4 out of 8 50/50 is not good odds.

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The majority of the KA band detections were at short range about a 10th. mile for most of them, I really only got 2 long range detections.

2 out of 8 is not good odds.
That's not what you said before...

Quoted for that reason.
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Stand corrected , forgot about the other 2 1/2 mile detection
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Stand corrected , forgot about the other 2 1/2 mile detection
Lets just leave it at this then, YOU don't believe radar detectors are worth the investment.

That is not to say that to someone else they might be...

Fair enough?
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You always stand a 50/50 chance no matter what with the detectors...

But without one, your odds might drop to 75/25... that's even less in your favor.
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Bottom line for advice is just buy what ever you want from best buy , they will price match any new amazon item listed on the web and you have 15 days to decide if you want to keep it, I got the 9500 IX for $430 plus tax.


Test them for yourself and come to your own conclusion, as its a free world.
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Bottom line for advice is just buy what ever you want from best buy , they will price match any new amazon item listed on the web and you have 15 days to decide if you want to keep it, I got the 9500 IX for $430 plus tax.


Test them for yourself and come to your own conclusion, as its a free world.
Couldn't agree more.


Did you have it mounted low on the windshield, or up high with the mirror by chance?
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