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CSGLEON · 06-17-2013, 03:37 AM

If it wasn't a felony to own a laser a jammer in Texas I would have one! It's not worth a felony to get caught with one. Absolutely no way! Get caught with a jammer and your felon! Yeah sure play with your car here and there but don't jeopardize your freedom for getting to work 2 min faster. Seriously!

madwi · 06-17-2013, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CSGLEON

If it wasn't a felony to own a laser a jammer in Texas I would have one! It's not worth a felony to get caught with one. Absolutely no way! Get caught with a jammer and your felon! Yeah sure play with your car here and there but don't jeopardize your freedom for getting to work 2 min faster. Seriously!

Glad I don't live there

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A quick note, it LOOKS like laser jammers are illegal in California, Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, Tennesse, Virginia and South Carolina. Please be sure to do your own homework if you are thinking about buying one and dont rely on my list

. Radar jammers are illegal in all 50 states and I believe is controlled by the FCC.

theDreamer · 06-17-2013, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi

Glad I don't live there

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A quick note, it LOOKS like laser jammers are illegal in California, Texas, Oklahoma, Utah, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, Tennesse, Virginia and South Carolina. Please be sure to do your own homework if you are thinking about buying one and dont rely on my list

. Radar jammers are illegal in all 50 states and I believe is controlled by the FCC.

I posted a page back about the federal laws on jammers, the FCC or federal government currently has no law stopping private citizens jamming a laser signal. It is down the state, and sometimes local, governments to decide what they ban per laser jamming. The list you have is accurate and as much as I want a jammer I just do not want to risk the felon charges in Texas.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-17-2013, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I posted a page back about the federal laws on jammers, the FCC or federal government currently has no law stopping private citizens jamming a laser signal. It is down the state, and sometimes local, governments to decide what they ban per laser jamming. The list you have is accurate and as much as I want a jammer I just do not want to risk the felon charges in Texas.

I think the jammer is a C misdemeanor. But i feel you.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-17-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi

^ Exactly. A radar detector by itself is not going to save you from all tickets (as csgleon proved). I have a 5 year old Beltronics STI and it works just fine for RADAR, does nothing for the state police that use mostly if not all laser guns. If you want protection from laser, buy a laser jammer, if they are legal in your state. I had a Laser Interceptor on my 350Z and it performed amazing, gives you time to slow down and then turn it off so they can get a reading of your speed. If you are relying on just a radar detector for protection you are going to have a bad time and will be spending $ for tickets.

Radar isn't useless by itself though. Remember, the cop will be pinging plenty of cars, not just you. When he pings another car, Your detector may start to pick up that frequency from far, way before you are in the target range. That's the warning you're looking for with a radar. The jammer kicks in when your radar detector failed to pick up the pings on other cars in front of you and now you're the target. Good radars don't miss many pings, though no technology is perfect.
the jammer is a strong layer of protection but with radar alone and good human instinct. you can avoid 85% of most tickets

Highway · 06-17-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Did not speed during the test of the cobra unit. I would have bought the escort 9500 ix and play with it, if it wasn't for the guy returning one already , that said it didn't detect much better than the cobra unit I tested.

So I decided I'll try the escort max when it comes out and see if its any better.

Even with the claims of the one radar review that is supposed to be an ex radar cop and instructor on the escort 9500 ix , it still failed to detect the Lidar or laser and even if a cop waits till you are insight and uses the instant on function. It boils down to once he sees you and sets the detector off , he will of already nailed you.

So even if the detector works 50% of the time , the odds are stacked against you no matter what you do or how much you spend.

Try this one...

https://store.valentine1.com/store/

30 day money back guarantee.

Like others have said...not every LEO drives around with a radar on.

madwi · 06-17-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I posted a page back about the federal laws on jammers, the FCC or federal government currently has no law stopping private citizens jamming a laser signal. It is down the state, and sometimes local, governments to decide what they ban per laser jamming. The list you have is accurate and as much as I want a jammer I just do not want to risk the felon charges in Texas.

Sorry, I didn't read all the replies. I was bored at work and fired off a reply after reading a few of the later posts.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Radar isn't useless by itself though. Remember, the cop will be pinging plenty of cars, not just you. When he pings another car, Your detector may start to pick up that frequency from far, way before you are in the target range. That's the warning you're looking for with a radar. The jammer kicks in when your radar detector failed to pick up the pings on other cars in front of you and now you're the target. Good radars don't miss many pings, though no technology is perfect.
the jammer is a strong layer of protection but with radar alone and good human instinct. you can avoid 85% of most tickets

I agree with you 100%. For fun I plugged in the STI on the waya home from work tonight and I got hit 3 laser warnings and saw the Officer on the ON ramp shooting our rears. About 10 miles up the road I got hit another time with laser, never saw this guy, he has good hiding spot lol. When someone is shooting radar, I usually pick it up early when other cars are in front.

gsxr750 · 06-17-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi

^ Exactly. A radar detector by itself is not going to save you from all tickets (as csgleon proved). I have a 5 year old Beltronics STI and it works just fine for RADAR, does nothing for the state police that use mostly if not all laser guns. If you want protection from laser, buy a laser jammer, if they are legal in your state. I had a Laser Interceptor on my 350Z and it performed amazing, gives you time to slow down and then turn it off so they can get a reading of your speed. If you are relying on just a radar detector for protection you are going to have a bad time and will be spending $ for tickets.

That's exactly what I have been trying to tell ppl. the best dectors may be able to pick up x or k band far away 5-10 miles. If the police set up parallel to the road and the road is completely flat or you have a elevation to your advantage that would allow your detectors to detect the police miles away.

My point is even with the old x band or k band police radars , all the police would have to do is set up their radar, perpendicular to road, thus making their radar beam narrow or short to the on coming target and the not allowing drivers radar detector to alert the driver.

So with all the instant ons, lasers, and other police tricks a 50/50 chance gambling your insurance costs and driving records are just to risky.

There is also a big debate if these little led jammers even work.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-17-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

That's exactly what I have been trying to tell ppl. the best dectors may be able to pick up x or k band far away 5-10 miles. If the police set up parallel to the road and the road is completely flat or you have a elevation to your advantage that would allow your detectors to detect the police miles away.

My point is even with the old x band or k band police radars , all the police would have to do is set up their radar, perpendicular to road, thus making their radar beam narrow or short to the on coming target and the not allowing drivers radar detector to alert the driver.

So with all the instant ons, lasers, and other police tricks a 50/50 chance gambling your insurance costs and driving records are just to risky.

There is also a big debate if these little led jammers even work.

Deferred adjudication my man. Thats why America is great.

Chuck33079 · 06-17-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

That's exactly what I have been trying to tell ppl. the best dectors may be able to pick up x or k band far away 5-10 miles. If the police set up parallel to the road and the road is completely flat or you have a elevation to your advantage that would allow your detectors to detect the police miles away.

My point is even with the old x band or k band police radars , all the police would have to do is set up their radar, perpendicular to road, thus making their radar beam narrow or short to the on coming target and the not allowing drivers radar detector to alert the driver.

So with all the instant ons, lasers, and other police tricks a 50/50 chance gambling your insurance costs and driving records are just to risky.

There is also a big debate if these little led jammers even work.

If there's other traffic on the road, a good detector will pick up the splash from the other cars being radared whether the cop is perpendicular, parallel or any other position. This isn't the first time this fact has been brought up in this thread.

What's the debate about laser jammers? I seriously doubt that many states would have bothered to criminalize their use if they didn't do anything.

imwazn · 06-17-2013, 07:30 PM

Store V1 Mirrors

This is something I found while looking for one. It's a stealth display, but they're a bit on the pricey side... They have Valentines and Escorts.

theDreamer · 06-17-2013, 07:49 PM

I have seen that website before, you can do it for a lot cheaper.
Basically all you need to do is buy the add on module and have someone take it apart and add it to your mirror. The main issue when doing a hidden V1 or Escort system is mounting the unit so it is out of sight, but still very effective and usable.

gsxr750 · 06-17-2013, 08:11 PM

The real debate is if you can believe these claims of these companies that sell the jammers, most have not been proven by a creditable source.

They want you to believe that 2 couple little leds or a little led array, is going to defeat a high powered police laser and most of the laser jammer testers will tell you that they only work if the police aim the laser in the exact area where the laser array is mounted.

Also a lot of states ban things all the time for no valid reason all the time specially California, laser jammers are just another item to add to the list.

Chuck33079 · 06-17-2013, 08:15 PM

So what are you basing your position that they don't work on? You've made it very clear that you discredit positive user reviews as biased. Are you basing your position on the negative reviews that support your pre existing bias, or do you have sources?

gsxr750 · 06-17-2013, 09:02 PM

The issue is that very are no verifiable, repeatable tests by independent sources by "Scientific Method".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

Most of these testers that endorse the detectors or jammers have some direct or indirect connection to the industry as suppliers or consultants.

You really need a test done by someone like Consumer Testing or UL.

06-17-2013, 07:49 PM	#117 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I have seen that website before, you can do it for a lot cheaper. Basically all you need to do is buy the add on module and have someone take it apart and add it to your mirror. The main issue when doing a hidden V1 or Escort system is mounting the unit so it is out of sight, but still very effective and usable. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

06-17-2013, 08:15 PM	#119 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	So what are you basing your position that they don't work on? You've made it very clear that you discredit positive user reviews as biased. Are you basing your position on the negative reviews that support your pre existing bias, or do you have sources? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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CSGLEON Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: austin Posts: 92 Drives: 12 370z silver Rep Power: 12	If it wasn't a felony to own a laser a jammer in Texas I would have one! It's not worth a felony to get caught with one. Absolutely no way! Get caught with a jammer and your felon! Yeah sure play with your car here and there but don't jeopardize your freedom for getting to work 2 min faster. Seriously!

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imwazn Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 187 Drives: 11 370Z Base, M/T Rep Power: 14	Store V1 Mirrors This is something I found while looking for one. It's a stealth display, but they're a bit on the pricey side... They have Valentines and Escorts.

06-17-2013, 08:11 PM	#118 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	The real debate is if you can believe these claims of these companies that sell the jammers, most have not been proven by a creditable source. They want you to believe that 2 couple little leds or a little led array, is going to defeat a high powered police laser and most of the laser jammer testers will tell you that they only work if the police aim the laser in the exact area where the laser array is mounted. Also a lot of states ban things all the time for no valid reason all the time specially California, laser jammers are just another item to add to the list.

06-17-2013, 09:02 PM	#120 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	The issue is that very are no verifiable, repeatable tests by independent sources by "Scientific Method". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method Most of these testers that endorse the detectors or jammers have some direct or indirect connection to the industry as suppliers or consultants. You really need a test done by someone like Consumer Testing or UL.