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gsxr750 · 06-12-2013, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

No one does 'independent' tests eh??

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Granted, some of those may be dated, but the point is, Yes, independent tests are often done.

If you are dumb enough to buy a radar/laser detector and thing you'll never get a speeding ticket, then it's not the detectors fault. You're an idiot.

I have my detector for advance warning, because that's all it provides. I try to scan as much of the road as I can, but because I have to pay attention to 360* of other people, I can't be looking ahead, or behind, all the time. The detector can.

Lasers/Radars work line of sight just like a persons eyes do. You can't shoot a laser through a tree. So if the cop can see me, I can see them. Now they may gun me, or they may gun the car next to me. Either way, my detector will go off and I will slow down. This helps in 1 of 2 ways. 1. They detect me, I slow down, and he doesn't move. 2. They get a ping, but aren't 100% sure who it is, I slow down and as we pass them they see the other car going faster, and pull them over.

The radar detector is just another attempt to be even more alert/aware of my surroundings than I naturally already am. I don't expect it to save me Every time. I'm banking on it coming in handy when there is a moderate tone, and I slow down, eventually passing the cop at the speed limit. Or, it goes off from me being pinged by a parked car spamming trons and the cop isn't paying attention initially, and by the time he checks it, I've slowed down enough that he doesn't bother coming out.

I don't do 95 in a 70 anyways, most of the time I'm doing <10 over, unless I know the road/highway well and their hiding spots, I will do <15 over. If you're doing more than that, then more power to you. You must not be worried about the fines/points as much as I do.

Hey genius ! radartest.com sells the units, they are not unbiased testing results, you think a online retailer is going to give a bad report on items they sell.

gsxr750 · 06-12-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Because you're going to trust a cop to be unbiased...

But needless to say, I will hear your argument. I'll read the reviews, brb.

Hey genius ! radartest.com sells the units, they are not unbiased testing results, you think a online retailer is going to give a bad report on items they sell.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Hey genius ! radartest.com sells the units, they are not unbiased testing results, you think a online retailer is going to give a bad report on items they sell.

I listed Several others as well...

Also, you listed Best Buy, a company that sells radar detectors. Do you think they would list negative reviews about a product they sell? But they do, don't they... HMMMMMMMMMM

This guy..

Chuck33079 · 06-12-2013, 08:22 PM

So again, we ignore the 91.1% of people who would recommend the product to a friend and only listen to the bad reviews? It is impossible to cherry pick data from a sample and come up with a statistically meaningful conclusion. That's just how numbers work.

gsxr750 · 06-12-2013, 09:02 PM

Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.

But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down.

So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets.

Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions.

The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off.

If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability.

Highway · 06-12-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Anyone care to submit or find any unbiased testing results ?

I received my recommendation/results from Alex Roy and that was all I needed.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units.

But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down.

So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets.

Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions.

The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off.

If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability.

My 9500ci has GPS with lifetime updates and redlight/speed camera updates too... And I know how Radar/Laser work. Plus I get the added benefit of other drivers updating the hive database so even if I don't drive in an area, if someone else with one does and updates the database, I get those locations too.

Highway · 06-12-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

My 9500ci has GPS with lifetime updates and redlight/speed camera updates too... And I know how Radar/Laser work. Plus I get the added benefit of other drivers updating the hive database so even if I don't drive in an area, if someone else with one does and updates the database, I get those locations too.

Also, downloading Trapster on your iPhone or Garmin works great for heads up alerts for camera and speed traps on unfamiliar roads...constantly updated and it's free.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

read these best buy reviews, specially the one from a cop that tested the unit.

Escort, Inc 9500ix - Best Buy

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Because you're going to trust a cop to be unbiased...

But needless to say, I will hear your argument. I'll read the reviews, brb.

Here's what I found:

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gsxr750 · 06-12-2013, 09:54 PM

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Here's what I found:

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Most of your info is simple customer reviews, and your car and driver test was poorly done, not many distances or facts and it is 11yrs old.

Bottom line is the consumer needs do research before buying one and make sure you get one from a retailer that will provide you with at least a 14 day full refund policy and evaluate it.

Also last speeding ticket I got a yr. ago was on the thruway by a state cop that paced me and end result it was an unbeatable ticket, you basically pay a high fine parking ticket and no points.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxr750

Most of your info is simple customer reviews, and your car and driver test was poorly done, not many distances or facts and it is 11yrs old.

Bottom line is the consumer needs do research before buying one and make sure you get one from a retailer that will provide you with at least a 14 day full refund policy and evaluate it.

Also last speeding ticket I got a yr. ago was on the thruway by a state cop that paced me and end result it was an unbeatable ticket, you basically pay a high fine parking ticket and no points.

Customer reviews that YOU linked as your supporting information. So you are negating your OWN supporting facts. Genius.

That's what I said at least 3 times in that post, customers need to research Before AND after they buy products... So I dunno what your point is there?

And that's your own fault, if a cop pulls up and is going at the same pace you are, pull over, slow down, let them by. It's really quite simple... And I never "pass" cops. I give them plenty of room.

gsxr750 · 06-12-2013, 10:31 PM

Cops often use visual speed reading or estimated speed reading, where the cop is calculating your speed by how fast you are passing the other cars or a given distance or simply driving along side you or behind in an unmarked car or even painted lines used by aircraft radioed speed given to the intercept car.

Not failure to allow a cop to pass.

A lot of courts allow the police to wright this type of ticket.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 10:36 PM

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Cops often use visual speed reading or estimated speed reading, where the cop is calculating your speed by how fast you are passing the other cars or a given distance or simply driving along side you or behind in an unmarked car or even painted lines used by aircraft radioed speed given to the intercept car.

Not failure to allow a cop to pass.

So again, it falls to a driver not paying attention. Not a fault in radar detectors...

I watch all Impalas, Crown Victorias, and now Dodge Chargers, Ford Explorers, and Taurus' as potential cop vehicles marked/unmarked in White/Silver/Blue/Brown/Black. If I see one, I am eyeballing it for lights in the grill/headliner/windows. Every time. I've seen plenty of unmarked cars on the highway going with and against my lane. When I do, sometimes they are running gun, and my detector goes off well before I physically see them, and if I can't visually see them, then by reverse direction they can't see me either. So by the time they do see me, I've slowed down.

As for the white lines on the highway, and aircraft... If you see a helicopter or Low Flying Aircraft when you're on the highway and know there is not an airport near by, and continue to do 90 in a 65, then it's your own dumb fault. If it looks out of place, there's most likely a reason. Which again falls back to bad driver, not bad/worthless equipment.

You're not proving your point at all.

Chuck33079 · 06-12-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Customer reviews that YOU linked as your supporting information. So you are negating your OWN supporting facts. Genius.

Lol. Beat me to it.

So now we've moved on to "radar detectors don't work if a cop doesn't use radar and just paces you?"

Look, if you don't want one or don't think they work, don't buy one. But ignoring the fact that the vast majority of consumers disagree is asinine. Being a contrarian just to be one is silly.

XwChriswX · 06-12-2013, 10:45 PM

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Lol. Beat me to it.

So now we've moved on to "radar detectors don't work if a cop doesn't use radar and just paces you?"

Look, if you don't want one or don't think they work, don't buy one. But ignoring the fact that the vast majority of consumers disagree is asinine. Being a contrarian just to be one is silly.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	So again, we ignore the 91.1% of people who would recommend the product to a friend and only listen to the bad reviews? It is impossible to cherry pick data from a sample and come up with a statistically meaningful conclusion. That's just how numbers work. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	Don't get me wrong , back in the 80's and early 90's I had experience with the x band and KA and laser detectors. When you only had to worry about X band you stood a chance of slowing down after the warning. Even the old fuzzbuster brand worked great and even the $50-$60 cobra units. But as soon as the KA and pulsed band units came out , every time you got a warning it was to late in such a short distance, then came lasers and forget about having time to slow down. So in the mid 90's the police units became to good to beat and you just had to slow down or get the tickets. Sure you will get those that argue that you can get a reflected signal bounced off another car at great distance. But how often does this really happen and it may only work in ideal conditions. The facts are that with most of these detectors, they usually go off all the time from background microwave radiation and other lasers, so after a short time of all these signals you find yourself braking all the time or just turning the unit off. If you really want try one of the units I would get a cheap $100-$150 units a play around with it and see how they really perform (with a return policy) and just get a good Garmin GPS unit with life time updates and redlight and speed camera ability. Last edited by gsxr750; 06-12-2013 at 09:05 PM.

06-12-2013, 10:31 PM	#72 (permalink)
gsxr750 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: west Posts: 443 Drives: 2012 370z man. sport Rep Power: 13	Cops often use visual speed reading or estimated speed reading, where the cop is calculating your speed by how fast you are passing the other cars or a given distance or simply driving along side you or behind in an unmarked car or even painted lines used by aircraft radioed speed given to the intercept car. Not failure to allow a cop to pass. A lot of courts allow the police to wright this type of ticket. Last edited by gsxr750; 06-12-2013 at 10:33 PM.

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