Nismo or boss ?

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-04-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe

They changed the gear rations in manual or auto? And is this just for 15s?

In both I believe

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-04-2014, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Ok, I can see 13.1 with the new 3.9 ratio, but I'm not buying 12.7 stock, no way.. not consistently anyways.

No printed times are usually consistent. The manual Z consistently is closer to 13.5

The auto is more consistent at quarters than manual. And I'm pretty sure the Nismo auto can hit 12.7 more than not. when I first read about the upgrades I was guessing on my own it would be about 12.8 seconds. so its only .1 seconds better than I thought for the auto.

if you look at the power to weight ratio of the Z. it makes sense that it would be sub 13 second car if tuned decently.

MJB · 11-04-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

No printed times are usually consistent. The manual Z consistently is closer to 13.5

The auto is more consistent at quarters than manual. And I'm pretty sure the Nismo auto can hit 12.7 more than not. when I first read about the upgrades I was guessing on my own it would be about 12.8 seconds. so its only .1 seconds better than I thought for the auto.

if you look at the power to weight ratio of the Z. it makes sense that it would be sub 13 second car if tuned decently.

Well, the claim 12.7 time came from a guy who guesstimates his quarter mile time based off his 1/8th slip. So that is why I was in doubt. I agree, the 370z has always been a low 13 second car(stock). Just not sure what the difference is with the new 3.9 ratio.

Chuck33079 · 11-04-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Well, the claim 12.7 time came from a guy who has to wear a helmet at all times.

Fixed. I'm guessing that guy has a coat hanger scar on his forehead.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-04-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MJB

Well, the claim 12.7 time came from a guy who guesstimates his quarter mile time based off his 1/8th slip. So that is why I was in doubt. I agree, the 370z has always been a low 13 second car(stock). Just not sure what the difference is with the new 3.9 ratio.

It should be pretty dramatic. Some years ago we had a member with an N/A tune where he made 3:9 ratios on his own along with intake, exhaust & a couple more mods. He was pushing 12.4. sec quarters on drag radials.
it was the fastest NA Z on record.

NoLaKrewe · 11-05-2014, 07:22 AM

They actually didn't change the final gear ratio on the regular Zs. From what I've read it's only on the Nismo

0101 · 11-05-2014, 12:21 PM

They're both good cars. Looks are subjective. I think the Boss looks better than the Nismo. The nismo has too much areo stuff going on for my taste. The Boss is probably made much better. Nisssan kind of dropped the ball on the 370z in a lot of ways. Not a big deal on a $20,000 used example, but if I paid $40,000 and had brake failure issues on a race track, I would be pissed.
For $20,000, I would get the 370Z(used). For $4x,000, I would pick option 3 and get a Cayman or E92 M3.

SS_Firehawk · 11-05-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 0101

They're both good cars. Looks are subjective. I think the Boss looks better than the Nismo. The nismo has too much areo stuff going on for my taste. The Boss is probably made much better. Nisssan kind of dropped the ball on the 370z in a lot of ways. Not a big deal on a $20,000 used example, but if I paid $40,000 and had brake failure issues on a race track, I would be pissed.
For $20,000, I would get the 370Z(used). For $4x,000, I would pick option 3 and get a Cayman or E92 M3.

Not sure why we have to continually tell people that a pad change is the only thing you need on Z's since 2013. Before that, pad and fluid. Since it's going to be brough up, spend the $600 and get the oil cooler. Even the Z28 was overheating in 80 degree heat on the latest Road and Track test."This is a hot romance in the making—but then it gets too hot. Although ambient temperature is barely in the 80s, three hard laps are enough to send the Camaro's oil temperature around the dial and beyond the 300-degree mark." Sorry, your complaints are minor and mostly invalid in the price range, even at $75,000. The Boss 302 even overheats. Even fuel starvation plagues plenty of "track ready" cars.

Point is, pick a platform, the grass isn't greener on the other side of the hill. You're going to have to sink money in it to take it to a track.

Read T · 11-05-2014, 02:44 PM

Just saw this thread. My next track day is looking fun...

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(Orange Group)

1. Phil Smith - 1996 Black BMW M3 Coupe
2. Terry Harris - 2011 White BMW M3 Sedan
3. Greg Procaccini - 2012 White Boss 302 Coupe
4. Roger McQueen - 2007 Blue Mustang GT Coupe
5. Jerry Polston - 1997 White SVT Cobra Coupe
6. Susan McIntosh - 2006 White Mustang GT Coupe
7. Tracy Munday - 2012 Orange Boss 302 Coupe
8. Larry Twohig - 2012 Race Red Boss 302 Coupe
9. Alvin McIntosh - 2005 Orange Mustang FR500 Coupe
10. Read Tull - 2011 Purple Nissan 370Z Coupe - Dawson
11. Chris Wajciechowski - 1993 Red SVT Cobra Hatchback - Hoe
12. Sarkis Aktavoukian - 2013 White Boss 302 Coupe - Kaiser
13. Ethan Freeborn - 2008 Silver Shelby GT500 Coupe -
14. Eddie Jackson - 2009 Red Roush Mustang Stage 3 Coupe
15. Michael Baier - 2009 Blue Subaru WRX Coupe

DavidZ370 · 11-05-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 0101

They're both good cars. Looks are subjective. I think the Boss looks better than the Nismo. The nismo has too much areo stuff going on for my taste. The Boss is probably made much better. Nisssan kind of dropped the ball on the 370z in a lot of ways. Not a big deal on a $20,000 used example, but if I paid $40,000 and had brake failure issues on a race track, I would be pissed.
For $20,000, I would get the 370Z(used). For $4x,000, I would pick option 3 and get a Cayman or E92 M3.

That statement right there tells me that you are going off assumptions, no fan boyism intended the boss overall I agree is a faster car, but built quality? don't even start with that. not to mention a live rear axle. I personally do agree that with 40 id get other cars but the one thing that's day and night difference is the damn quality that Fix Or Repair Daily's don't have.

DavidZ370 · 11-05-2014, 03:08 PM

and you gotta understand that every car isn't perfect just like the boss and its god horrible transmission failing left and right.

MJB · 11-05-2014, 03:12 PM

First 2015 to be wrecked? Oops

NoLaKrewe · 11-05-2014, 08:30 PM

Damn. That was quick

Zerocool · 11-05-2014, 09:58 PM

the 2015's look ugly as fck in my opinion. I've always liked how the newer gt's look. aggressive looking machine with the cool rear turn signals that always catches my attention.

benefits of that v8 are easy.. the torque is there! can spend less money than what you would on a Z and make it faster. It won't corner and stay flat around bends as well as the Nissan but once you get around that bend and into a straightaway, you'll close the gap.

I like how the newer gt's and boss look besides the 2015's but they look like an ordinary car on the road. The Z is a real head turner and I love that.

11-05-2014, 07:22 AM	#366 (permalink)
NoLaKrewe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NoLa Posts: 469 Drives: 2011 FJ//2015 370z Rep Power: 13	They actually didn't change the final gear ratio on the regular Zs. From what I've read it's only on the Nismo __________________ Starting a NoLa Z club https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheBigeZClub/ The struggle will be real!

11-05-2014, 12:21 PM	#367 (permalink)
0101 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Stockholm, Germany Posts: 95 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 12	They're both good cars. Looks are subjective. I think the Boss looks better than the Nismo. The nismo has too much areo stuff going on for my taste. The Boss is probably made much better. Nisssan kind of dropped the ball on the 370z in a lot of ways. Not a big deal on a $20,000 used example, but if I paid $40,000 and had brake failure issues on a race track, I would be pissed. For $20,000, I would get the 370Z(used). For $4x,000, I would pick option 3 and get a Cayman or E92 M3. Last edited by 0101; 11-05-2014 at 12:25 PM.

11-05-2014, 08:30 PM	#373 (permalink)
NoLaKrewe Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NoLa Posts: 469 Drives: 2011 FJ//2015 370z Rep Power: 13	Damn. That was quick __________________ Starting a NoLa Z club https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheBigeZClub/ The struggle will be real!

11-05-2014, 09:58 PM	#374 (permalink)
Zerocool Track Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: N.Y Posts: 548 Drives: '09 370z Rep Power: 15	the 2015's look ugly as fck in my opinion. I've always liked how the newer gt's look. aggressive looking machine with the cool rear turn signals that always catches my attention. benefits of that v8 are easy.. the torque is there! can spend less money than what you would on a Z and make it faster. It won't corner and stay flat around bends as well as the Nissan but once you get around that bend and into a straightaway, you'll close the gap. I like how the newer gt's and boss look besides the 2015's but they look like an ordinary car on the road. The Z is a real head turner and I love that. __________________ I like pizza

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DavidZ370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: [= Posts: 1,065 Drives: 17' CWP STI Rep Power: 23	and you gotta understand that every car isn't perfect just like the boss and its god horrible transmission failing left and right.