Nismo or boss ?

Chuck33079 · 05-29-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnYu

Haha , I think I am going to keep the nismo , but my driving skill Is terrible ..

You need to keep the Nismo simply because you're losing your *** swapping cars as often as you said you do.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 01:34 PM

I would like to add that M4A1 has owned... 2 Mustangs... and 2 Z's... and he currently owns a Z...

So lets say he is probubly the best informed out of all of us. And considering he just got another Z, i doubt he has a strong bias against it...

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:35 PM

Step 8. Steve tries to kill Dan.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

I would like to add that M4A1 has owned... 2 Mustangs... and 2 Z's... and he currently owns a Z...

So lets say he is probubly the best informed out of all of us. And considering he just got another Z, i doubt he has a strong bias against it...

Either that or my annual tax return includes a $35,000 "forum trolling" expense.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-29-2013, 01:38 PM

Step 8: b1tch about old car a lot and then go buy it again :|

Bucketlist2012 · 05-29-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

This is usually how these threads go down:

1. OP asks Z vs. Mustang?

2. Some Z owner bashes Mustang, say something factually incorrect

3. Said Z owner gets called out and corrected

4. Butthurt ensues

Now, I'm TRYING to make it better by hosting a BBQ with wine coolers but nooooo, some people want to keep the butthurt flowing.

But man this thread is funny..

Caustic · 05-29-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

The problem you are actually having is that you are talking about stuff no one even brought up in the manner you seem to think. Your first post into this discussion was:

Right from the start, you immediately bring it up as a debate....which no one did.

M4a, the person who brought up Billy Johnson, even said:

before you ever stepped into the conversation.

It is also crazy funny to me that you like this:

and yet, completely ignore:

because you want to argue against Billy Johnson.

Maybe you are the one that is talking about stuff no one even brought up in the manner you seem to think. First off, I am not arguing against Billy in the slightest. Billy owns an NSX, is an active member of NSXPrime, and has contributed to our community immensely. He is a great source of information because he is so connected to the car community.

I was pointing out in the quote that m4a1mustang used from Billy about live axle, that Billy was speaking from a professional perspective. I went further to say that for the rest of us, a difference between the two systems (SRA, IRS) is consistency. A professional driver masks the weaknesses of the live axle, where people like us have to fight against it.

I'm sorry if you can't figure out what happened from there.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Caustic

Maybe you are the one that is talking about stuff no one even brought up in the manner you seem to think. First off, I am not arguing against Billy in the slightest. Billy owns an NSX, is an active member of NSXPrime, and has contributed to our community immensely. He is a great source of information because he is so connected to the car community.

I was pointing out in the quote that m4a1mustang used from Billy about live axle, that Billy was speaking from a professional perspective. I went further to say that for the rest of us, a difference between the two systems (SRA, IRS) is consistency. A professional driver masks the weaknesses of the live axle, where people like us have to fight against it.

I'm sorry if you can't figure out what happened from there.

I've never had to fight against a live axle. Not sure where you are getting that from.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caustic

Maybe you are the one that is talking about stuff no one even brought up in the manner you seem to think. First off, I am not arguing against Billy in the slightest. Billy owns an NSX, is an active member of NSXPrime, and has contributed to our community immensely. He is a great source of information because he is so connected to the car community.

I was pointing out in the quote that m4a1mustang used from Billy about live axle, that Billy was speaking from a professional perspective. I went further to say that for the rest of us, a difference between the two systems (SRA, IRS) is consistency. A professional driver masks the weaknesses of the live axle, where people like us have to fight against it.
I'm sorry if you can't figure out what happened from there.

I dont have issues with mine...

I think you are drinking the cool-aid on the whole concept that a live axle being hard to pilot.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

I dont have issues with mine...

I think you are drinking the cool-aid on the whole concept that a live axle being hard to pilot.

It's quite easy. The only thing to be aware of is on panhard equipped live axles the rear end will move in a slight arc as the rear suspension compresses. This can potentially create the feeling of the rear end stepping out ever so slightly.

All you do in this situation is... nothing. Keep the throttle down and the wheel turned.

Caustic · 05-29-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I've never had to fight against a live axle. Not sure where you are getting that from.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StangerGT

I dont have issues with mine...

I think you are drinking the cool-aid on the whole concept that a live axle being hard to pilot.

Perhaps "fight" was too strong a word, and it was referring to "fighting against it's weaknesses". Just because you don't feel you have "issues" doesn't mean that the setup isn't inherently working against stability and control.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:56 PM

Anyways, wine coolers... lets do this.

Tazicon · 05-29-2013, 01:58 PM

Why did I do that, I take it back!

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Caustic

Perhaps "fight" was too strong a word. And just because you don't have "issues" doesn't mean that the setup isn't inherently working against stability and control.

This is starting to get ridiculous. By simply driving quickly one is inherently working against stability and control.

Stability and control is laying in a hammock at the beach drinking a beer.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 02:00 PM

This may cause some butthurt... but the reality of the situation is... the Mustang vs 370z comparison is actually a good one... as they both offer good performance for the dollar, and although one may have a muscle car image (which some cant get over), they are both very close in many ways.

People cross shop these cars... and that is why you see many posts.

And however painful it is to think that the mustang is one of its main rivals, even tho there are a billion of them on the road, and they have a horride live axle... You dont have a crap tone of 911 drivers coming on here resulting in an argument...

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05-29-2013, 02:00 PM	#285 (permalink)
StangerGT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: MD Posts: 294 Drives: 2003 Mustang GT Rep Power: 13	This may cause some butthurt... but the reality of the situation is... the Mustang vs 370z comparison is actually a good one... as they both offer good performance for the dollar, and although one may have a muscle car image (which some cant get over), they are both very close in many ways. People cross shop these cars... and that is why you see many posts. And however painful it is to think that the mustang is one of its main rivals, even tho there are a billion of them on the road, and they have a horride live axle... You dont have a crap tone of 911 drivers coming on here resulting in an argument... m4a1mustang, Spikuh and b1adesofcha0s like this. __________________ Maximum Motorsports Susp. \| MM Adj. Rear LCA \| MM CC Plates \| MM Front Coilovers 350lb \| MM Rear 500lb Springs \| Full Cobra Brakes \| FR 3.73 Gears \| FR LSD/31 Spline \| JPC/SCT Tune \| MGW Short Shifter \| Star Spec 265/35/18x9 F - 275/35/18x10 R \| stock exhaust lolz

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