Nismo or boss ?

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Oh ****, not the Vette thing again. They're composite transverse leaf springs. Not the ones under your pappy's F100.

And the proper place for a motor is behind the driver ahead of the rear axle.

WRONG. They are LEAF springs and are directly off a WAGON which was built from the leaves on a tree. Get your facts straight in this thread, man.

Red__Zed · 05-29-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

WRONG. They are LEAF springs and are directly off a WAGON which was built from the leaves on a tree. Get your facts straight in this thread, man.

and wait until you hear where that pushrod motor came from

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

and wait until you hear where that pushrod motor came from

Hell they lifted the Ford GT's engine right out of a pickup truck... based on the laws of sports car... it must be slow.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Oh ****, not the Vette thing again. They're composite transverse leaf springs. Not the ones under your pappy's F100.

And the proper place for a motor is behind the driver ahead of the rear axle.

But the Enzo doesn't use them... so they must be not sports car...

Chuck33079 · 05-29-2013, 11:47 AM

A properly designed IRS is better than a properly designed solid axle. The Mustang still handles very well with a solid rear. Is it ideal? No. Will it be perfectly fine for the 99.9% of us who don't make our living behind the wheel. Of course. The solid rear isn't the reason I didn't buy a 5.0. It's the interior.

XiP · 05-29-2013, 11:50 AM

acronym soup

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 11:52 AM

I'm going to grill up some burgers tonight. A1 steak sauce, worcestershire, garlic and onion powder, and a bit of cayenne pepper for some pop. They grill up real nice.

I will be grilling on my infrared which has three independent burners, which I hear are better than one solid non adjustable burner.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm going to grill up some burgers tonight. A1 steak sauce, worcestershire, garlic and onion powder, and a bit of cayenne pepper for some pop. They grill up real nice.

I will be grilling on my infrared which has three independent burners, which I hear are better than one solid non adjustable burner.

blasphemy!!!

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-29-2013, 11:53 AM

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

Pretty sure some here said SRA can't handle in general.

Anyways, it's the Z guys that get butthurt whenever the 5.0 is mentioned.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-29-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Pretty sure some here said SRA can't handle in general.

Anyways, it's the Z guys that get butthurt whenever the 5.0 is mentioned.

I just think this forum has had enough 5.0 comparos it can handle. They are different cars for different people. A small crew of mustang lovers seem to keep that flame going. The sad part it's the Z owners on there own forum being defensive against 5.0 lovers.

There's a mustang forum for that shyt. Besides, up until the sports car dry up of 96. Not many would have ever made this comparo. It was only because of the only two affordable $25,000 cars that existed with a lot of power between 2002-2008 were the mustang and Z. The cars were totally different and still are. But when those are your only two affordable powerful choices, they are force comparo'd. Now it's a price comparo of which is better. I just laugh how mustang lovers here don't entertain other muscle cars to compare themselves in the other vehicles section. It has to be the Z. I guess there's more security in making that comparo when the Z has a 100hp deficit that will keep it out of the loop in some situations.

In reality, it's a comparo of which one will suit your needs. Not which one is better... Somehow some of you blur the lines of philosophy to make weak points. Somehow some of you think flow charts, graphs and eloquent word play will prove a point that doesn't even need to be proven IN A Z FORUM

The discussions always start the same way. A NEWBIE makes a thread identical to this one comparing Z's and mustangs. Z owners show their bias toward the Z. And the usual suspects make the same thread they been making since they traded for a mustang or those who are just hating there Z purchase supporting the mustang crew entertaining the same thoughts.

If passion reigns that high for the mustang, then that passion should be shared with those equally passionate. At the mustang forum.

You say it's us Z owners that get upset??? You really need to read this thread carefully.

m4a1mustang · 05-29-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I just think this forum has had enough 5.0 comparos it can handle. They are different cars for different people. A small crew of mustang lovers seem to keep that flame going. The sad part it's the Z owners on there own forum being defensive against 5.0 lovers.

There's a mustang forum for that shyt. Besides, up until there sports car dry up of 96. Not many would have ever made this comparo. It was only because of the only two affordable $25,000 cars that existed with a lot of power between 2002-2008 were the mustang and Z. The cars were totally different and still are. But when those are your only two affordable powerful choices, they are force comparo'd. Now it's a price comparo of which is better. I just laugh how mustang lovers here don't entertain other muscle cars to compare themselves in the other vehicles section. It has to be the Z. I guess there's more security in making that comparo when the Z has a 100hp deficit that will keep it out of the loop in some situations.

In reality, it's a comparo of which one will suit your needs. Not which one is better... Somehow some of you blur the lines of philosophy to make weak points. Somehow some of you think flow charts, graphs and eloquent word play will prove a point that doesn't even need to be proven IN A Z FORUM

The discussions always start the same way. A NEWBIE makes a thread identical to this one comparing Z's and mustangs. Z owners show their bias toward the Z. And the usual suspects make the same thread they been making since they traded for a mustang or those who are just hating there Z purchase supporting the mustang crew entertaining the same thoughts.

If passion reigns that high for the mustang, then that passion should be shared with those equally passionate. At the mustang forum.

You say it's us Z owners that get upset??? You really need to read this thread carefully.

The only time I ever say anything is when I see misinformation being spread. I did the same thing on the Mustang boards if someone made some stupid comment about a Z.

If you take offense to someone disagreeing with misinformation... oh well.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I just think this forum has had enough 5.0 comparos it can handle. They are different cars for different people. A small crew of mustang lovers seem to keep that flame going. The sad part it's the Z owners on there own forum being defensive against 5.0 lovers.

There's a mustang forum for that shyt. Besides, up until the sports car dry up of 96. Not many would have ever made this comparo. It was only because of the only two affordable $25,000 cars that existed with a lot of power between 2002-2008 were the mustang and Z. The cars were totally different and still are. But when those are your only two affordable powerful choices, they are force comparo'd. Now it's a price comparo of which is better. I just laugh how mustang lovers here don't entertain other muscle cars to compare themselves in the other vehicles section. It has to be the Z. I guess there's more security in making that comparo when the Z has a 100hp deficit that will keep it out of the loop in some situations.

In reality, it's a comparo of which one will suit your needs. Not which one is better... Somehow some of you blur the lines of philosophy to make weak points. Somehow some of you think flow charts, graphs and eloquent word play will prove a point that doesn't even need to be proven IN A Z FORUM

The discussions always start the same way. A NEWBIE makes a thread identical to this one comparing Z's and mustangs. Z owners show their bias toward the Z. And the usual suspects make the same thread they been making since they traded for a mustang or those who are just hating there Z purchase supporting the mustang crew entertaining the same thoughts.

If passion reigns that high for the mustang, then that passion should be shared with those equally passionate. At the mustang forum.

You say it's us Z owners that get upset??? You really need to read this thread carefully.

The passion you speak of... is for an informed conversation... The "mustang" guys who you speak of, are simply trying to get people to understand that your argument is a non-issue.

IF there was no "other side" on this forum, it would just fall to the depths of misinformation, and bais. Which would just feed into others learning the misinformation, and spreading it.

I would wager to guess that the people here who are arguing with you, are not "mustang" guys... but people who have experiance at driving outside of the streets. They are attempting to help you.

The idea that the Mustang is just a muscle car that is being compared? maybe its because its evolving past the muscle car image, and that hasnt caught up to you yet. Maybe you see a bunch of 5.0 posts here because its actually become better in that department, and they can both play in the sandbox together.

StangerGT · 05-29-2013, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

I will bite my tounge, but the second i mention Porsche people here got their panties in a wad...

You want me to list off the issues i have with my mustang? its long...

Would I sell it for a Z? no.

Are Z's good cars? absolutely.

Red__Zed · 05-29-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA?

Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum.

IRS is a superior framework that allows for superior designs...it doesn't guarantee them.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29539	A properly designed IRS is better than a properly designed solid axle. The Mustang still handles very well with a solid rear. Is it ideal? No. Will it be perfectly fine for the 99.9% of us who don't make our living behind the wheel. Of course. The solid rear isn't the reason I didn't buy a 5.0. It's the interior. Caustic likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I can't recall anyone saying the mustang cant handle cuz it's an LA/SRA???? All i remember most saying is IRS is a superior design. From there it seemed "some" mustang fanboys got titty hurt. I can't remember who in this thread anyone saying the ford can't handle cuz of SRA? Insecurity reigns supreme in this forum. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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